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Never has a more obvious decision been made. You don't go add 20 receivers and keep the old guy grabbing one pass a game.

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Ocho in NE and McNabb in Minny are about the two worst football calls I've ever made.

If you can't succeed as a WR in New England, then you must seriously have nothing left.

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whats a Ochocinco?
 
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Ocho in NE and McNabb in Minny are about the two worst football calls I've ever made.

If you can't succeed as a WR in New England, then you must seriously have nothing left.
He still has something left, just couldn't grasp the offense. Still has some speed and can run routes.

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Fat Al & Ochocinco, two great additions last year.
 
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The league will be better once he and TO are gone once and for all. The era of the loudmouth me-first WR is hopefully over for a while.

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The league will be better once he and TO are gone once and for all. The era of the loudmouth me-first WR is hopefully over for a while.
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I have to say, moes was spot-on in his assessment of Ochocinco's future in New England once he was headed there.

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Still dont understand how this guy can get a job but T.O. cant. Been washed up for about 3 yrs now.
 
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I knew Miami would be one of the desperate teams, this year for a receiver. They were too thin last season, even with Brandon Marshall. I must say there's never a season that passes by where QBs, WRs, and OL are not in demand.

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Still dont understand how this guy can get a job but T.O. cant. Been washed up for about 3 yrs now.
You thought #85 was bad in 2009 and 2010. I thought he played rather well in 2010, considering he was necessarily the go-to guy with Owens in town. In 2009, he was a pro-bowler. Both seasons were better than his 2008 campaign.

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Still dont understand how this guy can get a job but T.O. cant. Been washed up for about 3 yrs now.
TO is older and burnt to many bridges.

Teammates generally like Chad Johnson, who doesn't constantly throw everyone else under the bus.

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Still dont understand how this guy can get a job but T.O. cant. Been washed up for about 3 yrs now.
We don't have any real confirmation of eroded abilities, just reports that he's too stupid and/or undisciplined to play in New England's expert timing based passing attack. He could have a lot of life left in his legs for all we know.

T.O., on the other hand, is now 38. 35 is typically the fall-off point for WRs, and for a guy with already diminishing skills to have a career threatening injury at 36, it pretty much sealed his fate.

At 34 years old, and very little wear and tear the past 2 seasons, Chad Johnson is a much safer bet than T.O. Although I wouldn't expect either one of them to do much in Miami with that putrid offense/QB situation. Maybe 500-600 yards and 3-4 touchdowns at best.

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We don't have any real confirmation of eroded abilities, just reports that he's too stupid and/or undisciplined to play in New England's expert timing based passing attack. He could have a lot of life left in his legs for all we know.

T.O., on the other hand, is now 38. 35 is typically the fall-off point for WRs, and for a guy with already diminishing skills to have a career threatening injury at 36, it pretty much sealed his fate.

At 34 years old, and very little wear and tear the past 2 seasons, Chad Johnson is a much safer bet than T.O. Although I wouldn't expect either one of them to do much in Miami with that putrid offense/QB situation. Maybe 500-600 yards and 3-4 touchdowns at best.
If Tom Brady can't revive your career nobody can. I was in your camp (thought Johnson would do great in NE) but he's done now. 500-600 with 3-4 TD's is a long stretch especially with whoever Miami decides to play at QB.

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If Tom Brady can't revive your career nobody can. I was in your camp (thought Johnson would do great in NE) but he's done now. 500-600 with 3-4 TD's is a long stretch especially with whoever Miami decides to play at QB.
I'm not too far from calling it quits on him either, but I wouldn't say it's a "long stretch" for Miami's #1 WR to put up that kind of production, even with their bad QB situation. If guys like Mercedes Lewis and Mike Thomas can put up 450 yards in Jacksonville with Blaine Gabbert throwing to them, then 500 yards and 3 TDs is doable. A slight overachievement, but doable.

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I'm not too far from calling it quits on him either, but I wouldn't say it's a "long stretch" for Miami's #1 WR to put up that kind of production, even with their bad QB situation. If guys like Mercedes Lewis and Mike Thomas can put up 450 yards in Jacksonville with Blaine Gabbert throwing to them, then 500 yards and 3 TDs is doable. A slight over-achievement, but doable.
I agree . . . just because a player doesn't pan out in New England does not mean it's the end of their career. I do not think his performances were necessarily indicative of his playing ability eroding, quickly. I'm not knocking Deion Branch, but I doubt he would've beaten Chad Johnson out on most NFL teams.

I'm sorry, but for the most part you still need guys at receiver who can get open on most teams.

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Johnson barely played last year, but did make some impressive catches. Still, he had to make spectacular catches because he wasn't getting much separation.

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TO is older and burnt to many bridges.

Teammates generally like Chad Johnson, who doesn't constantly throw everyone else under the bus.
True he is older but I would take T.O. in a split second over Chad. There is no way if T.O. played in New England last yr that he catches only 15 passes and one td. They both come with baggage but on the field its no contest.
 

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