Ford: Mock Draft 4.0 - Page 3

larsv8 · 05-04-2012, 09:48 AM

Move Lowry +16th to get Drummond
Move the 14th and Dallas pick to get PJones III

I don't care if they have high bust potential, we can atleast suck for a few years and finally have high ceiling guys on the roster.

desi tmac91 · 05-04-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by larsv8

Move Lowry +16th to get Drummond
Move the 14th and Dallas pick to get PJones III

I don't care if they have high bust potential, we can atleast suck for a few years and finally have high ceiling guys on the roster.

Agreed. Its better than drafting a Marcus Morris type again. In our situation you got to take a chance on high potential guys and roll the dice rather than playing it safe.

Jet036 · 05-04-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Andre Barrett

Houston

Terrence Jones

Position: PF
Height: 6-foot-8
Weight: 244 pounds
Age: 20
School: Kentucky
(The Rockets have a 0.5 percent chance of winning the lottery.)

Analysis: The Rockets drafted in the same spot last year and came away with Marcus Morris. Jones has some similar talents, but with more upside. At this point, the Rockets take the player with the most upside.

Ford must realize Morey has an intense fetish for undersized PFs.

coachbadlee · 05-04-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by larsv8

Move Lowry +16th to get Drummond
Move the 14th and Dallas pick to get PJones III

I don't care if they have high bust potential, we can atleast suck for a few years and finally have high ceiling guys on the roster.

Well since you don't care if they suck or not why not just draft at 14 and 16? There are high ceiling guys in that range as well.

Carl Herrera · 05-04-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet036

Ford must realize Morey has an intense fetish for undersized PFs.

Which undersized PFs have the Rockets acquired under Morey?

Scola, Landry, Patterson are each 6'9''. Hill is 6'10''. Motiejunas is 6'11''. Chuck Hayes at 6'6'' is really the only significant undersized PFs.

Jones is 6'9'', 249, with 7'2'' wingspan. Essentially the same size as Karl Malone.

Is 6'9'' undersized for a PF now?

Jet036 · 05-04-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by larsv8

Move Lowry +16th to get Drummond
Move the 14th and Dallas pick to get PJones III

I don't care if they have high bust potential, we can atleast suck for a few years and finally have high ceiling guys on the roster.

Then we can trade Martin for Davis and Scola for Beal

Dragic
Beal
PJones
Drummond
Davis

We'd be a dynasty

...what is it with clutchfans? A 14th pick and a future top 20 protected pick WILL NOT get us the 7th pick. This isn't NBA 2k12.

Jet036 · 05-04-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Herrera

Jones is 6'9'', 249, with 7'2'' wingspan. Essentially the same size as Karl Malone.

Is 6'9'' undersized for a PF now?

Welcome to the 21st century old man.

coachbadlee · 05-04-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet036

Welcome to the 21st century old man.

Welcome to reality misguided youth.

Nook · 05-04-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

I agree. I'm a Baylor grad, and I don't want the Rockets to draft Perry Jones at all. He was absolutely my least favorite player on the team last year. I would not have the same reservations about Quincy Miller....I'd be great with the Rockets drafting him.

If Jones is there at #14, I take him basically as a flyer.... but I am NOT trading up for him. He just does not get it, and honestly was not that good a college player.

Carl Herrera · 05-04-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet036

Welcome to the 21st century old man.

Lets see:

Chicago plays 6'9'' Carlo Boozer and Taj Gibson at PF.
Miami plays 6'10'' (and skinny) Chris Bosh and 6'8'' Udonis Haslem at PF.
Indiana plays 6'9'' David West at PF.
Boston plays 6'9'' Brandon Bass at PF.
Atlanta plays 6'9'' Josh Smith at PF.
Spurs play 6'11 Tim Duncan at PF, but often pairs him with 6'8'' Boris Diaw or 6'7'' Dajuan Blair.
Thunder plays 6'10'' Serge Ibaka and 6'9'' Nick Collison at PF, and often pair these two up.
Lakers play 7'1'' Pau Gasol at PF.
Grizzlies 6'9'' Zach Randolph at PF.
Clippers plays 6'9'' Blaker Griffin at PF.

Nook · 05-04-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by larsv8

Move Lowry +16th to get Drummond
Move the 14th and Dallas pick to get PJones III

I don't care if they have high bust potential, we can atleast suck for a few years and finally have high ceiling guys on the roster.

I just do not see the Rockets getting there paws on Drummond and PJIII, but if they did I would be estatic, especially with the upside of Drummond which is tremendous.

Ramathorn006 · 05-04-2012, 04:32 PM

Good lord these dudes ages ranges from 18-22 I feel old as hell.

Carl Herrera · 05-04-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramathorn006

Good lord these dudes ages ranges from 18-22 I feel old as hell.

Well, that's the thing about NBA draftees, you keep on getting older, they stay the same age.

MONON · 05-04-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramathorn006

Good lord these dudes ages ranges from 18-22 I feel old as hell.

It only gets worse!

Jet036 · 05-04-2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Herrera

Lets see:

Chicago plays 6'9'' Carlo Boozer and Taj Gibson at PF.
Miami plays 6'10'' (and skinny) Chris Bosh and 6'8'' Udonis Haslem at PF.
Indiana plays 6'9'' David West at PF.
Boston plays 6'9'' Brandon Bass at PF.
Atlanta plays 6'9'' Josh Smith at PF.
Spurs play 6'11 Tim Duncan at PF, but often pairs him with 6'8'' Boris Diaw or 6'7'' Dajuan Blair.
Thunder plays 6'10'' Serge Ibaka and 6'9'' Nick Collison at PF, and often pair these two up.
Lakers play 7'1'' Pau Gasol at PF.
Grizzlies 6'9'' Zach Randolph at PF.
Clippers plays 6'9'' Blaker Griffin at PF.

Average height of that sample size is 6'9.5 (making 6'9 below average). I bet if you took the average of every starting PF in the league you'd get an average height of even greater than 6'9.5...at the very least you wouldn't get an average of below 6'9. 6'9 is below average height for a PF.

HMMMHMM · 05-04-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet036

Average height of that sample size is 6'9.5 (making 6'9 below average). I bet if you took the average of every starting PF in the league you'd get an average height of even greater than 6'9.5...at the very least you wouldn't get an average of below 6'9. 6'9 is below average height for a PF.

Haha. Maybe so, but I'd say you're reaching

.

Also, the Spurs may still list Duncan as a PF, but he hasn't actually played PF since seemingly forever.

There's nothing wrong with being a 6'9 PF. Most guys are.
Gasol, Ibaka and Nowitziki are outliers and Gasol, like Duncan would play center on most teams.

ObamaFan · 05-04-2012, 05:54 PM

I want Tyler Zeller

what · 05-04-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Herrera

Which undersized PFs have the Rockets acquired under Morey?

Scola, Landry, Patterson are each 6'9''. Hill is 6'10''. Motiejunas is 6'11''. Chuck Hayes at 6'6'' is really the only significant undersized PFs.

Jones is 6'9'', 249, with 7'2'' wingspan. Essentially the same size as Karl Malone.

Is 6'9'' undersized for a PF now?

Karl Malone:

Terrence Jones:

You don't see a difference here?

Carl Herrera · 05-04-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by what

Karl Malone:

Terrence Jones:

You don't see a difference here?

Malone's pic was later in his career, not when he was a college sophmore.

RedDynasty · 05-04-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet036

Average height of that sample size is 6'9.5 (making 6'9 below average). I bet if you took the average of every starting PF in the league you'd get an average height of even greater than 6'9.5...at the very least you wouldn't get an average of below 6'9. 6'9 is below average height for a PF.

Who gives a flying ****? 1-2 Inches is not really that much dude.