I wonder if most of us have already read all the towerofthehand.com essays and westeros.org forum discussions over these topics. I certainly wouldn't be able to add any more than what has been compiled over there.
My personal feeling is that the R+L=J is true. It could only seem to be obvious b/c people have had the time to dissect the theory to death after all these years. Otherwise, for most first time readers, it is a fresh and exciting concept that hasn't been thought of. IMO, GRRM intended this to be a juggernaut revelation, but he's taken too long to get there for that effect.
Originally posted by DallasThomas in a discussion about pork.
"The penalty for practicing religion could be immediate execution, that way the nonreligious would be happy and the now dead religious would also be happy to enter the eternal bliss of afterlife. And gay people could get married."
I believe the theory goes something like this. First, the prophecy I think Melisandre states:
"when the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone"
So, for smoke, we have the knife wounds Jon suffers at the hands of Bowen Marsh (condensation in the cold air). Salt from Marsh's tears.
red star bleeds - while all this is going on we there is also the knight that was being beaten/killed by the giant. the knight's heraldry is a star and he's bleeding all over it.
Wake dragons - if you believe R+L=J, then J is a Targ and therefore a dragon.
Dany is my guess:
Dany fits all the requirements. She awoke the dragons out of her petrified stone eggs, on the very night she spotted the comet for the first time. (GoT, pg. 804). That night, there was smoke from the funeral pyre and salt from Dany’s tears. And she was ‘reborn’ in the sense that she emerged from the fire a stronger person--a leader whom the Dothraki would follow.
But how does Dany’s story match up with Salladhor’s? Well, one suggestion has been that her dragons are actually Lightbringer, because they can produce fire. This makes a great amount of sense. Like Azor Ahai, Dany tried three times to make her weapon--once while putting them on a brazier (GoT, pg. 593), once while coming out of her fevered nightmares (GoT, pg. 753-754), and finally succeeding on the third try at Drogo’s pyre. Also, like Azor Ahai, Dany sacrificed her spouse to make her weapon, and drew the weapon out of a fire.
Other people merely think that Lightbringer is still a sword, and perhaps Dany will find it elsewhere, maybne in Asshai or far east.
But the fact remains that, of all the candidates, Dany is the only one who has woken dragons out of stone. Unless another character is going to accomplish the same thing, Dany seems like a safe bet to be Azor Ahai reborn.
What'd I like to know is who is the guy at the Citadel with the Sphinx was it? Then he goes to meet some mysterious guy and the ground shakes and he passes out.
What is up with the mysterious guy and this storyline?
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