[Books] Game of Thrones Book Series Discussion

[Xerobull]

Post your Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Fire) book series by George R. R. Martin here.

It's assumed that you've read through book 5, A Dance With Dragons, if you're posting/reading this thread. Otherwise you're bound to read spoilers.

Please keep news/spoiler chapters from NEW books past ADWD spoilered.

[Xerobull]

R+L=J?

[Rokkit]

It would seem so, but then again for that reason maybe not. lol

[Xerobull]

JS=AA?

[myco]

I wonder if most of us have already read all the towerofthehand.com essays and westeros.org forum discussions over these topics. I certainly wouldn't be able to add any more than what has been compiled over there.

My personal feeling is that the R+L=J is true. It could only seem to be obvious b/c people have had the time to dissect the theory to death after all these years. Otherwise, for most first time readers, it is a fresh and exciting concept that hasn't been thought of. IMO, GRRM intended this to be a juggernaut revelation, but he's taken too long to get there for that effect.

[Xerobull]

Here's a good one. Is Tyrion really Tywin's son? I have a pet theory that the Mad King Aerys fathered him.

[K mf G]

damnit through book 5?

i just started 4

[VooDooPope]

I'm getting close to the end of book 3 and can't stop reading. Great stuff.

[K mf G]

Originally Posted by VooDooPope I'm getting close to the end of book 3 and can't stop reading. Great stuff.

so is this where i would spoiler

the red wedding

with no spoiler tags, and then declare how it effected me for two weeks, actually it still effects me

[tallanvor]

Originally Posted by Xerobull JS=AA?

I'm not familiar with this one. explain

[morpheus133]

If you haven't read all the books, I recommend the Still Reading forums on westeros.org

[RedNation]

Are these books worth reading?

[tallanvor]

Originally Posted by RedNation Are these books worth reading?

watch a few episodes of the tv show. If it seems like your thing then stop watching the show and start reading the books.

[myco]

Originally Posted by tallanvor I'm not familiar with this one. explain

I believe the theory goes something like this. First, the prophecy I think Melisandre states:

"when the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone"

So, for smoke, we have the knife wounds Jon suffers at the hands of Bowen Marsh (condensation in the cold air). Salt from Marsh's tears.

red star bleeds - while all this is going on we there is also the knight that was being beaten/killed by the giant. the knight's heraldry is a star and he's bleeding all over it.

Wake dragons - if you believe R+L=J, then J is a Targ and therefore a dragon.

[The Real Shady]

Originally Posted by VooDooPope I'm getting close to the end of book 3 and can't stop reading. Great stuff.

I'm at about the same place and I just finished the wedding yesterday. Holy ****balls. Then the Arya chapter after that. SoS is about as intense of a read there is.

[morpheus133]

Originally Posted by myco I believe the theory goes something like this. First, the prophecy I think Melisandre states: "when the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt to wake dragons out of stone" So, for smoke, we have the knife wounds Jon suffers at the hands of Bowen Marsh (condensation in the cold air). Salt from Marsh's tears. red star bleeds - while all this is going on we there is also the knight that was being beaten/killed by the giant. the knight's heraldry is a star and he's bleeding all over it. Wake dragons - if you believe R+L=J, then J is a Targ and therefore a dragon.

Dany is my guess:

Dany fits all the requirements. She awoke the dragons out of her petrified stone eggs, on the very night she spotted the comet for the first time. (GoT, pg. 804). That night, there was smoke from the funeral pyre and salt from Dany’s tears. And she was ‘reborn’ in the sense that she emerged from the fire a stronger person--a leader whom the Dothraki would follow. But how does Dany’s story match up with Salladhor’s? Well, one suggestion has been that her dragons are actually Lightbringer, because they can produce fire. This makes a great amount of sense. Like Azor Ahai, Dany tried three times to make her weapon--once while putting them on a brazier (GoT, pg. 593), once while coming out of her fevered nightmares (GoT, pg. 753-754), and finally succeeding on the third try at Drogo’s pyre. Also, like Azor Ahai, Dany sacrificed her spouse to make her weapon, and drew the weapon out of a fire. Other people merely think that Lightbringer is still a sword, and perhaps Dany will find it elsewhere, maybne in Asshai or far east. But the fact remains that, of all the candidates, Dany is the only one who has woken dragons out of stone. Unless another character is going to accomplish the same thing, Dany seems like a safe bet to be Azor Ahai reborn.

There is a good listing of the candidates here.

[Phillyrocket]

What'd I like to know is who is the guy at the Citadel with the Sphinx was it? Then he goes to meet some mysterious guy and the ground shakes and he passes out.

What is up with the mysterious guy and this storyline?

[heypartner]

fancy this. A Game of Thrones thread where the book readers can talk amongst themselves with no fear of spoiling the other thread.

wow. y'all have two threads.

[blahblehblah]

any word on how/when book six is coming along?

[K mf G]

one of the things i believe is that arya will assassinate a lanister with oathkeeper,

also, there is no way jon snow and danaerys don't end up on the iron throne together