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Lin is from the independent nation of Taiwan -- why would he want to play for China?
Because he is not related to any political stuff.
It's a sports decision. Even a non related Kirilenko could work something out with China if he decides to join China
This has nothing to do with anything above mentioned, it's a sports decision.


Taiwan is not as independent as you think.
If China cut its economic ties with Taiwan, that would be a huge loss.
That is the reason they have a China friendly President who advocates for a better partnership with Mainland China. They are dependent.

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It's the Olympics--where each country is represented by their own players. Sorry, but develop your own damn players.

I was okay with Hakeem playing for the US since he developed in the US and was naturalized.
 
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I think Lin would be insane to do that.

I hope he doesn't play in the Olympics at all. He's better taking the summer off and working on his game even more so he can be an all star next year (and maybe bring the Knicks a championship).

If anything, Lin should play for team USA. His parents aren't even from China. They're from Taiwan. I'm not sure if Taiwan have a basketball team but Lin identifies himself as American first before Chinese or Taiwanese. On top of that, Lin's Mandarin isn't very good at all. He'll have communication problems with the coaching staff and his teammates.

So no, he shouldn't play for either China or Taiwan. And this is a disgrace from China to actually demand something like this from Lin. No wonder Yao doesn't play in the NBA anymore.
No chance he could make the US team. I think if he has a chance to play in the Olympics he should do it. I am sure sure would allow a waiver for him.
 
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It's the Olympics--where each country is represented by their own players. Sorry, but develop your own damn players.

I was okay with Hakeem playing for the US since he developed in the US and was naturalized.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? Us does that in other sports all the time.
 
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do you have any idea what you are talking about? Us does that in other sports all the time.
Seconded.

China has its second tier table tennis players playing all across the globe for European, African, other Asian countries.....

Because they have the best talent pool they do not care.


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There must be, probably not high-profile ones.

One example, Alex Tian Hua, a Chinese equestrian who was born in London. He gave up his British citizenship at age 18 just to be able to be on the 2008 Olympics team of China.

If China changes the dual-citizenship rule, people like Patrick Chan (top skater) and Jeremy Chan are very likely to jump the ship for larger endorsement deals.

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It's uncommon for athletes to renounce their current citizenship, just to play basketball in the Olympics or World Championships. I can't think of any NBA players that has done it. Who were the ones that did it in 2008?

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There must be, probably not high-profile ones.

One example, Alex Tian Hua, a Chinese equestrian who was born in London. He gave up his British citizenship at age 18 just to be able to be on the 2008 Olympics team of China.

If China changes the dual-citizenship rule, people like Patrick Chan (top skater) and Jeremy Chan are very likely to jump the ship for larger endorsement deals.
How many thousands of athletes played in the 2008 Olympics? One athlete is as as low as you can go without saying zero. It's uncommon as I said. Or even worse, it's rare. Some people are making it sound like it happens all the time.

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In all fairness, the Chinese basketball team has all the reasons to try to get a guy like JLin. But their country doesn't allow dual citizenship. Therefore if Lin wants to play in the London Olymipcs he has to give up his U.S. citizenship. The story cannot and should not be twisted as China demanding Lin to renounce citizenship.

Lin should understand why Team USA doesn't want him just yet. Actually it's better for him spend the summer on improving his games. If he is ever going to reprsent a country, USA should be the only country to play for. Cause this is where he grew up, learned his skills and made his name.
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Taiwan is not as independent as you think.
If China cut its economic ties with Taiwan, that would be a huge loss.
That is the reason they have a China friendly President who advocates for a better partnership with Mainland China. They are dependent.

Huge loss you say? And yet, Taiwan's economy was humming along just fine in the 60s - 80s while the mainland was stuck in third world status.

You really think China would have grown at the pace it has the past 2 decades without the vast investment pouring in to its Special Economic Zones from Taiwanese businessmen and entrepreneurs?

China friendly President? No, just a smart president that knows China's got about a couple thousand nukes pointed at his nation's population centers, along with S. Korea and Japan. That's like saying the parent of a kidnapped child is 'friendly' with the kidnappers asking for the ransom. But then again, I suppose it must be difficult for you mainlanders to tell the difference between coercion and free will.
 
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It's the Olympics--where each country is represented by their own players. Sorry, but develop your own damn players.

I was okay with Hakeem playing for the US since he developed in the US and was naturalized.

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Huge loss you say? And yet, Taiwan's economy was humming along just fine in the 60s - 80s while the mainland was stuck in third world status.

You really think China would have grown at the pace it has the past 2 decades without the vast investment pouring in to its Special Economic Zones from Taiwanese businessmen and entrepreneurs?

China friendly President? No, just a smart president that knows China's got about a couple thousand nukes pointed at his nation's population centers, along with S. Korea and Japan. That's like saying the parent of a kidnapped child is 'friendly' with the kidnappers asking for the ransom. But then again, I suppose it must be difficult for you mainlanders to tell the difference between coercion and free will.
no hard feelings... why don't you discuss that in the hangout.
this should be about sports. Just pointed out they are linked together.
and through sports.

Calling me personal names that I am not, does not end the argument.
It is my 2 cents if I were an atheist.
take it or leave it.

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Man, what if China had both Lin and Yao? How would they rank on the international level? Obviously not first because of the US, but still...
 
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I add.... I am not mainland friendly but I try to be fair. China apart from its politics is quite nice if you can get used to it. Ask Steph Starbury

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This - I thought he was Taiwanese. How does China presume they can do this? Oh wait...Taiwan never had their own sovereignty recognized by China.

Sucks...
right. if lin were to join china, wait for taiwan to declare war on china.r

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right. if lin were to join china, wait for taiwan to declare war on china.r
That must be something. A single player could be reason for war?

No. It was not Michael Jordan.

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Huge loss you say? And yet, Taiwan's economy was humming along just fine in the 60s - 80s while the mainland was stuck in third world status.

You really think China would have grown at the pace it has the past 2 decades without the vast investment pouring in to its Special Economic Zones from Taiwanese businessmen and entrepreneurs?

China friendly President? No, just a smart president that knows China's got about a couple thousand nukes pointed at his nation's population centers, along with S. Korea and Japan. That's like saying the parent of a kidnapped child is 'friendly' with the kidnappers asking for the ransom. But then again, I suppose it must be difficult for you mainlanders to tell the difference between coercion and free will.
Now you are delusional. The economy now is a world based economy, China is a integral part of it and can not be ignored. Talking about 60-80s, we don't live at the 60s or 80s anymore. Taiwan's biggest export by far is mainland China, at 80Billion a year, second place, HK, 40B, and guess who owns HK?

You get the idea.



JLin proly won't do it, too much hassle and I don't see the benefit for him, since he's already too popular and proly will sign lots of commercial deals, show deals, tours etc.. He's getting the Kobe status over there in China.
 
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Maybe the Olympics should do a draft thing. Parity, you know. It's kind of boring with the same few countries dominating every time.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZpreTPnSk

Heres a video of jeremy playing for a chinese club against a club from taiwan in what seems to be an asia tournament.
 
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btw the video's sound clip is super annoying!
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZpreTPnSk

Heres a video of jeremy playing for a chinese club against a club from taiwan in what seems to be an asia tournament.
Visually better than all the other guards

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