ClutchFans
ClutchFans
ClutchFans Latest:
Look who's back: Rockets sign Trevor Ariza to a four-year, $32M deal


Go Back   ClutchFans > Basketball > Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves

View Poll Results: Would you trade Kyle Lowry (+ more) for Deron Williams?
YES 847 49.13%
NO 877 50.87%
Voters: 1724. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
[ClutchFans] Keep an eye on Deron Williams, because the Rockets sure will
Tags:  basketball, clutchfans, daryl morey, deron williams, espn, houston, houston rockets, jersey, magic, nba, nets Tags
Clutch is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
Clutch
Administrator
Clutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure goldClutch is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure gold
Since: Feb 1999
Posts: 17,247
Member: #1
    Reply With Quote
http://rockets.clutchfans.net/2279/d...uston-rockets/

__________________
CLUTCHFANS ON FACEBOOK | TWITTER | YOUTUBE | INSTAGRAM | ITUNES | FLICKR | BLOG | err... CLUTCHFANS

"My kid's asleep. I've eaten dinner. I'm ready to get on ClutchFans." -- Ron Artest
 
Sponsored Link
ElPigto is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:08 PM   #2
ElPigto
Member
ElPigto is Omer Asik -- working the boardsElPigto is Omer Asik -- working the boardsElPigto is Omer Asik -- working the boardsElPigto is Omer Asik -- working the boards
Since: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,720
Member: #19911
    Reply With Quote
I love Lowry and I want him to be our point guard. I know this opinion will probably be in the minority.

__________________
"The way you get meaning into your life is to devote yourself to loving others, devote yourself to your community around you, and devote yourself to creating something that gives you purpose and meaning"

--- Morrie Schwartz ( Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom )
 
LCII is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:11 PM   #3
LCII
Contributing Member
LCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job doneLCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job doneLCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job doneLCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job doneLCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job doneLCII is Robert Horry -- just gets the job done
Since: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,309
Member: #20646
    Reply With Quote
If we can attract Howard by giving up Lowry and other assets for Deron, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

The one concern: Would we end up like the NYK? With absolutely zero depth and overfatigued superstars...doesn't sound like a good recipe for success especially after the Tmac and Yao 'era'.
 
robbie380 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:11 PM   #4
robbie380
Contributing Member
robbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchrobbie380 is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watch
Since: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,969
Member: #6630
    Reply With Quote
Keep Lowry.

We don't need to improve a position that is already a strength.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUAAXuHan View Post
Chandler is the best lubricant in the team
 
Captain Hook is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:11 PM   #5
Captain Hook
Member
Captain Hook is Patrick Beverley -- showing a lot of promise
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 713
Member: #47312
    Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by LCII View Post
If we can attract Howard by giving up Lowry and other assets for Deron, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
I was voting no....until i read this
 
LCAhmed is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:12 PM   #6
LCAhmed
Contributing Member
LCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereLCAhmed is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved here
Since: Nov 2009
Posts: 6,895
Member: #44232
    Reply With Quote
Deron Williams is a proven Superstar, Of course I would trade Lowry + more for D Will. D Will is one of those guys you can build a championship team around.
 
RocketsRed14 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:14 PM   #7
RocketsRed14
Member
RocketsRed14 is Omer Asik -- working the boardsRocketsRed14 is Omer Asik -- working the boardsRocketsRed14 is Omer Asik -- working the boardsRocketsRed14 is Omer Asik -- working the boards
Since: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,678
Member: #48055
    Reply With Quote
ONLY if getting williams will bring in Howard. Otherwise, we're giving away other players in order to strengthen and already strong pg position.

__________________
Pg - Goran Dragic/Reggie Jackson
Sg - Wesley Matthews
Sf - Jimmy Butler/Giannes Atetokumpo
Pf - Blake Griffin
C - Tyson Chandler/Pero Antic
 
JayZ750 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:15 PM   #8
JayZ750
Contributing Member
JayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved hereJayZ750 is Calvin Murphy -- loud and loved here
Since: May 2000
Posts: 13,993
Member: #1462
    Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElPigto View Post
I love Lowry and I want him to be our point guard. I know this opinion will probably be in the minority.
I'm not sure I'd even consider comparing the two. I mean, of course you don't just want to give a player away for nothing. But under the assumption, regardless of salary differences, they are at least comparable point guards right now, the real issue is Dwight Howard.

I've heard varying reports about the economic impact to Dwight Howard if he walks this summer. Clutch, or Bima, or anyone else, with the new CBA and sign and trade rules, etc., how much money would Dwight lose if he just walks from Orlando and signs with another team??

Despite the consistent threats, we have still yet to see any player walk from any meaningful amount of money just to get to a different/better team. Will Dwight be the first?

It's hard to imagine the Rockets have the assets to trade for both Dwight and Williams.
 
LabMouse is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:15 PM   #9
LabMouse
Member
LabMouse is Patrick Beverley -- showing a lot of promise
Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,896
Member: #32442
    Reply With Quote
I have to say "Yes" even although I like Lowry more as a person.
 
CDrex is online now Old 01-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #10
CDrex
Contributing Member
CDrex is Omer Asik -- working the boardsCDrex is Omer Asik -- working the boardsCDrex is Omer Asik -- working the boardsCDrex is Omer Asik -- working the boards
Since: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,479
Member: #39038
    Reply With Quote
I'm on the fence. Probably yes if it's specifically Lowry + Scola + remove lottery protection on pick we owe them. Not sure I'd be on board if it was any more. I love Lowry and want to see him stay a Rocket for a long time but Deron Williams is an elite player and the Dwight factor is intruiging.

__________________
"Good court awareness is something you should never not be aware of." - Clyde
 
Rocketman95 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #11
Rocketman95
Hangout Boy
Rocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boardsRocketman95 is Moses Malone -- a well-known beast on the boards
Since: Feb 1999
Posts: 45,935
Member: #19
    Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketsRed14 View Post
ONLY if getting williams will bring in Howard. Otherwise, we're giving away other players in order to strengthen and already strong pg position.
This exactly. If we make this trade and don't get Howard, guess what? We're the Nets. Of course, that's what the majority of fans are clamoring for, so what do I know.

__________________
I'm like James Brown, only white and taller.
 
Matthieu is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #12
Matthieu
Member
Matthieu is Terrence Jones -- on a good road but it's early
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 345
Member: #48836
    Reply With Quote
I love Lowry, and despite his torrid season start and the slump Deron Williams is enduring, yes i will, superstars attract superstars, and it could be our only option to land Howard. we would sell lowry high and buying Williams low, it's the perfect timing ... it's a risky move ok, because we could end up with nothing if Williams doesnt re sign, but as much as i love our guys, we're not going to contend with this team, so ...
 
King901 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:17 PM   #13
King901
Member
King901 is Patrick Beverley -- showing a lot of promise
Since: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,179
Member: #33690
    Reply With Quote
I would only do this deal an hour before the deadline.

__________________
PSN: TnKing
Catch me in the roxchat room SW901
 
javal_lon is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:17 PM   #14
javal_lon
Member
javal_lon is Chandler Parsons -- lookin' mighty finejaval_lon is Chandler Parsons -- lookin' mighty finejaval_lon is Chandler Parsons -- lookin' mighty fine
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,563
Member: #47065
    Reply With Quote
If we get a true center or PF , then I would say yes to D-Will... He would take a good team to the next level.... But with these current pieces, I'd stick with Lowry....

__________________
Metaphorically speaking of course.... Screw you!! Even if you're celibate
 
durvasa is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:22 PM   #15
durvasa
Contributing Member
durvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure golddurvasa is Hakeem Olajuwon -- reputation is pure gold
Since: Feb 2006
Posts: 26,993
Member: #16420
    Reply With Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch
So it boils down to this question if you’re the Rockets: Do you pursue a max-contract star in Deron Williams in an attempt to become a top NBA locale once again, but doing it at the cost of your highly underrated and underpaid point guard in Kyle Lowry?
 
JoeBarelyCares is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:22 PM   #16
JoeBarelyCares
Contributing Member
JoeBarelyCares is Omer Asik -- working the boardsJoeBarelyCares is Omer Asik -- working the boardsJoeBarelyCares is Omer Asik -- working the boards
Since: Jan 2001
Posts: 4,754
Member: #2113
    Reply With Quote
Since Deron will cost you $16.3 million, and Dwight will cost you $19 million, on a salary cap of $58 million, that leaves you less than $23 million for 10 other players. That means besides moving Lowry, one of either KMart or Scola will have to be moved, too.
 
TEXNIFICENT is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:25 PM   #17
TEXNIFICENT
Member
TEXNIFICENT is Jeremy Lin -- starting to get dangerously goodTEXNIFICENT is Jeremy Lin -- starting to get dangerously good
Since: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,547
Member: #32178
    Reply With Quote
Yet another letdown waiting to happen. So tired of the "almost trades" and then back to reality with "assets" and promises of a better future. Sooner or later Morey has to deliver. Wake me when he does.
 
Asian Sensation is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:26 PM   #18
Asian Sensation
Member
Asian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watchAsian Sensation is Clyde Drexler -- smooth and a joy to watch
Since: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,439
Member: #924
    Reply With Quote
Classic buy low/sell high scenario. I love Lowry just like 99% of this board but Deron Williams is a top 3 PG in the game. Don't let his performance in NJ fool you.

This is a guy that tooled us 2 years in a row in the playoffs and was regarded as the best PG in the league with CP3 before the rise of Derrick Rose. I'm partial to Deron Williams as the best PG in the league still.

For all the complaining we do about the lack of having a superstar and ability to attract other superstar's.... this is a move that MUST be made if it's on the table.

__________________
O GO DUCKS!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by droxford View Post
swish the picante sauce around in your mouth for a while (and nibble on the picante bits)
Da'Rel Morry is the greatest.
 
wonderboy2313 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:27 PM   #19
wonderboy2313
Member
wonderboy2313 is Terrence Jones -- on a good road but it's early
Since: Jul 2009
Posts: 52
Member: #43097
    Reply With Quote

does lowry really have to be traded for the nets to accept a trade for d-will? what do you guys think about this trade?

PG: Lowry
SG: D-Will
SF: Parsons
PF: Scola
C: Sammy D
 
wonderboy2313 is offline Old 01-18-2012, 12:28 PM   #20
wonderboy2313
Member
wonderboy2313 is Terrence Jones -- on a good road but it's early
Since: Jul 2009
Posts: 52
Member: #43097
    Reply With Quote
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/dwill.png/
 

Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deron Williams in Turkey sinobball NBA Dish 14 09-17-2011 02:21 AM
Woj: Deron Williams Almost a Net Rocketboi NBA Dish 1 02-23-2011 10:03 AM
deron williams, mehmet okur, ak47 out tonight agains rockets latebloomer19 Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves 40 02-04-2011 02:35 PM
Deron Williams NOT happy The_Yoyo NBA Dish 69 02-21-2010 07:40 PM
Take Out Deron Williams rocketman1979 Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves 18 04-20-2008 01:01 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.