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tellitlikeitis is online now Old 02-21-2012, 12:48 AM
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Prospects 25-21

25. Mike Kvasnicka, C/3B

DOB: 12/7/88
Bats/Throws: Switch/Right
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 200
Drafted: Minnesota, 1st Round Supplemental (33rd overall), 2010

Grade: 45, Medium

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Mike shot up draft boards in 2010 thanks to his profile as a switch-hitting catcher, even though he only caught part-time in college at Minnesota. The Astros liked his bat more than his potential behind the plate... Kvasnicka hasn't caught as a pro, instead moving to third base, where his size, strong arm, and solid athleticism should allow him to be an average defender. However, he made 31 errors in his first full season, and his bat will have to play better than it did in 2011 for him to become a regular. Houston officials point out that Kvasnicka was playing a new position and is still fairly new to switch-hitting, which he began in 2009. His lefthanded swing is flatter and geared more for line drives.... one home run in 339 at-bats from that side last year. His righty stroke has more natural lift and pop. Scouts outside the organization report they didn't see any plus tools out of Kvasnicka... If his bat doesn't come around, Houston could move him back behind the plate. For now, he's headed to high Class A to play third base in 2012.
24. Tanner Bushue, RHP

DOB: 6/20/91
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 180
Drafted: South Central HS (Farina, Illinois), 2nd round, 2010

Grade: 50, High

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Like Mike Foltynewicz, Bushue is an Illinois high school product with a lanky pitcher's frame. The similarities end there, however, because Bushue doesn't have Foltynewicz's power repertoire. Bushue's strong suit is his fastball command... He pitched off an 88-92 MPH fastball that he located to all four quadrants of the strike zone. However, he started wearing down by June, spending six weeks on the disabled list with back spasms, and posted a 7.43 ERA after his return before being shut down in late August. Bushue's curveball is his next-best pitch, and when it's on it's a 12-to-6 breaker with good shape. It can get loopy at times, too. He also throws a slider and a changeup, and neither pitch stands out as an effective third offering... has to add some strength to his frame in order to stay healthy over a full season and to maintain his delivery during games. He could be headed back to Lexington for a third season if he doesn't wow the Astros in spring training, but he has a shot to earn a spot in Lancaster. If he gets stronger and refines his secondary pitches, he could develop into a No. 3 or 4 starter.
23. Jiovanni Mier, SS

DOB: 8/26/90
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 180
Drafted: Bonita HS (La Verne, CA), 1st round (21st overall), 2009

Grade: 50, High

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The first high school shortstop drafted in 2009, Mier has progressed slowly since going 21st overall and signing for $1,358,000. He entered pro ball with a reputation as a smooth defender at shortstop and raised expectations by slugging .484 while ranking as the No. 1 prospect in the Appalachian League. He hit seven homers in 192 at-bats in his debut but has added just nine more in 915 at-bats since. A good athlete with fringy speed... has above-average defensive tools with soft hands and an accurate, average throwing arm. He improved at making the routine play in 2011, cutting his errors to 22 after making 34 the previous season. He made better decisions and avoided high-risk plays. Mier encouraged the Astros by hitting .280/.392/.453 in the first seven weeks last season, but then he went into a 3-for-31 slump and continued to struggle even after a promotion to hitter-friendly Lancaster... swing gets long and mechanical... best asset at the plate is his patience, as he has drawn 129 walks the last two seasons. He isn't as explosive or athletic as minor league teammates Jonathan Villar or Delino DeShields Jr., and Mier's lack of offensive upside likely limits him to a future utility role. Mier will head back to high Class A to try to shorten up his swing.
22. Jorge De Leon, RHP

DOB: 8/15/87
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'
Weight: 180
Signed: International FA, Dominican Republic, 2007

Grade: 50, High

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DeLeon signed as a shortstop but never hit... His arm strength and athleticism made more an easy transitition to the mound, and he earned a spot on the 40-man roster after working just 28 innings in his pitching debut in 2010. His perrformance and stuff varied in 2011, when he served as the closer on a bad Lexington team. When he's on, DeLeon's fastball sits at 93-97 MPH and peaks at 98. In other outings, he operates in the low 90s. His slider is even more inconsistent, but at times it's a short downer that grades as an average pitch. More often it's a spinner, and he generally lacks feel for spinning the ball... started using a changeup that's too firm but gives hitters something else to think about. He'll need to prove he can get outs at higher levels when working back-to-back nights, but his 40-man roster spot and big fastball make a call to Houston possible by September. He'll likely start 2012 in high Class A but could open in Double-A if he has a good spring.
21. Dallas Keuchel, LHP

DOB: 1/1/88
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 200
Drafted: Arkansas, 7th Round, 2009

Grade: 40, Low

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Keuchel won 19 games in three seasons at Arkansas.... and he's continued to win in pro ball, even in an Astros system all too accustomed to losing. He was the only Houston farmhand to reach 10 victories in 2011. He's a rare left-handed sinkerballer who pitches inside even though his fastball sits at only 84-87 MPH... has touched 90-91 in the past but generally relies on movement and location. Keuchel mixes up his tempo, at times adding a hitch to his delivery, and also employs a slow curveball to keep hitters off balance. His best pitch is a sinking changeup that has better action than his fastball and grades as solid or better... His overall package compares best to finesse southpaws such as Zane Smith or Doug Davis. Keuchel is extremely durable, working 174 innings in 2010 and 189 last year (including his time in the Arizona Fall League). A potential back-of-the-rotation starter or middle reliever, he'll have to keep proving himself one level at a time. He'll start 2012 back in Triple-A, where he was rocked in four of his seven late-season starts.
I don't know about you guys, but I felt a little sad reading the bolded part...
 
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Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects was released today... and as usual, the three guys dominating every Astros prospect ranking under the sun were named to the list.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...2/2612998.html

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34 Jonathan Singleton 1b/of, Astros Age: 20. ETA: 2013.
Will move back to first base now that he's no longer stuck behind Ryan Howard.

50 Jarred Cosart rhp, Astros Age: 21. ETA: 2013.
Another key trade piece helping to make over the Astros farm system, he seeks to marry consistency with one of the minors' most electric arms.

59 George Springer of, Astros Age: 22. ETA: 2013.
Figures to battle Rangers' Mike Olt for title of best UConn position player in the big leagues.
 
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Prospects 20-16

20. Marwin Gonzalez, SS

DOB: 3/14/89
Bats/Throws: Switch/Right
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 186
Signed: International Free Agent, Venezuela, 2005 by the Cubs

Grade: 45, Medium

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After the Red Sox selected Gonzalez from the Cubs in the major league portion of the Rule 5 draft in December, they traded him to the Astros for Triple-A Rule 5 pick Marco Duarte, a righthander out of the Rockies system. Gonzalez has a chance to stick in Houston, where the middle infield took a hit with the free-agent departure of shortstop Clint Barmes. Gonzalez signed as a 16-year-old out of Venezuela and made a methodical climb up Chicago's system, posting a career-best .742 OPS and reaching Triple-A for the first time in 2011. He chokes up on the bat and has solid bat control, making consistent contact from both sides of the plate. His lack of power and only modest basestealing ability limits his offensive upside. He's an average runner who's above-average under way and has solid defensive tools. Gonzalez played a career-high 99 games at shortstop in 2011 and spent the winter playing second base in Venezuela. His range and arm are most likely a bit shy for him to be an ideal everyday shortstop. Gonzalez's defensive versatility enhances his chances to remain in Houston, which has to expose him to waivers and offer him back to the Cubs before it can send him to the minors.
19. Juan Abreu, RHP

DOB: 4/8/85
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'
Weight: 180
Signed: International Free Agent, Dominican Republic, 2003 by Royals

Grade: 45, Medium

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The Royals originally signed Abreu and watched him develop one of the best fastballs in the system before a contract snafu let him hit the open market in 2009. The Braves turned him from a minor league free agent into part of the four-player package they sent to the Astros for Michael Bourn last July. Abreu didn't spend much time in the minors with Houston before making his major league debut, and he got 12 of his 20 big league outs via strikeout. His violent delivery never will be used in instructional videos, as he has a significant head whack. His arm is quick enough to catch up with the rest of his body, though, and he pumps 93-98 MPH fastballs close enough to the strike zone. He also throws a slurvy breaking ball at 78-81 MPH. He doesn't have much control, however, and he averaged 5.4 walks per nine innings in the minors. He's hard to hit, so he doesn't always pay for those free passes. The more strikes Abreu throws, the more high-leverage innings he'll earn in Houston. He has a good shot at earning a spot in the big league bullpen in 2012.
18. Austin Wates, OF

DOB: 9/2/88
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 179
Drafted: Virginia Tech, 3rd round (90th overall), 2010

Grade: 45, Medium

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The Astros have drafted several college hitters with single-digit draft picks in recent years and still are waiting for one of them to break out. Their top two such selections the 2010, Austin Wates and Mike Kvasnicka, had modest full-season debuts last year. Wates split time between first base and the outfield at Virginia Tech, and Houston likes both his bat and his speed. He played all three outfield positions in 2011, hitting .300 while leading Lancaster in doubles (23) and RBIs (75) while ranking second in steals (26). Considering the offensive nature of the high Class A California League... his .413 slugging percentage was a downer. Wates' swing and approach are the issue. He has natural feel for hitting and making consistent contact, but he inside-outs the ball and is content to shoot singles to center and right field. He has yet to learn to turn on balls consistently and show any pull power, and his swing lacks loft. Wates shows some raw power in batting practice. His plus speed enables him to steal bases and make up for his inexperience in the outfield. He has a decent arm, certainly enough for left or center field. If Wates can stick in center, it will put less pressure on his bat and enhance his profile significantly. He'll work in all three outfield spots again this year in Double-A.
17. J.B. Shuck, OF

DOB: 6/18/87
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 195
Drafted: Ohio State, 6th round, 2008

Grade: 45, Medium

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Since Bobby Heck started running the team's draft in 2008, Shuck is one of four Astros picks to reach the majors, joining Jason Castro, Jordan Lyles, and J.D. Martinez. Shuck has the lowest ceiling of the group and he's close to reaching it. His ability to be a regular hinges on whether he'll be able to play center field capably. Shuck hits singles, draws walks and leaves scouts wanting more. He has a slashing, contact-oriented approach that enabled him to hit .302 in the minors while striking out just once every 10.2 plate appearances. He also draws a fair share of walks, making him a top-of-the-order option. However, Shuck doesn't do much else. He's a plus-plus runner down the line, but his speed doesn't play that well on the bases or in the field because he lacks instincts and aggressiveness. Though he pitched at Ohio State, he lacks the arm strength to play right field and hasn't distinguished himself in center. Shuck will compete for Houston's center-field job in 2012 and could settle in as a fourth outfielder if he doesn't win it.
16. Ross Seaton, RHP

DOB: 9/18/89
Bats/Throws: Left/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 212
Drafted: Second Baptist School (Houston), 3rd Round (supplementary), 2008

Grade: 50, High

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Signed for an over-slot $700,000 as a supplemental third-rounder in 2008, Seaton embodies some of the best and worst elements in the Astros system. In a thin organization, he's taking a long time to develop and hasn't performed well. He's also very young and has been pushed out of necessity, pitching the entire 2011 season at Double-A at age 21 after posting a 6.64 ERA at Lancaster the year before. He was overmatched for much of last year but compiled a 3.43 ERA in the final month after improving his mechanics and getting better extension. Club officials credit Corpus Christi pitching coach Don Alexander with getting Seaton out front more, allowing him to better locate his fastball inside against righthanders. He also quickened his delivery's tempo and shortened his arm action. Seaton pitches with a quality fastball as 91-94 MPH. His slider improved along with his mechanics, giving him a second plus pitch at times. His fringy changeup will have to get better for him to combat lefties, who put up an .824 OPS against him last year. Seaton could take a step forward in 2012, when he repeats a level for the first time with what should be an older, more competitive Corpus Christi club.
 
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WOW !!

Thanks for putting all of this BA stuff up ... Its really been interesting to read so far . Also what do you think of Seaton ... I really liked him earlier on and hope with new management he can do as well this year as he did his first.

Even though he's not a prospect anymore i have a question for you about Lyles ... and to a lesser extent Seaton ... I remeber when they were drafted there were reports of them hitting 95-6 on the gun ... I am curious why they have seemed to lose velocity. Lyles in particular as he moved up seemed to throw softer at each level ... wear and tear ? Or was pitching that fast more of a ok throw as hard as you can for the gun type of thing . Do you think lyles has any chance of getting a few of those mph back . With rest/ strength training.... ? It would be awesome to see him sit at 92-3 instead of 89-91.

But once again thanks for all the BA info .. it must be a pain to type it all up
 
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WOW !!

Thanks for putting all of this BA stuff up ... Its really been interesting to read so far . Also what do you think of Seaton ... I really liked him earlier on and hope with new management he can do as well this year as he did his first.

Even though he's not a prospect anymore i have a question for you about Lyles ... and to a lesser extent Seaton ... I remeber when they were drafted there were reports of them hitting 95-6 on the gun ... I am curious why they have seemed to lose velocity. Lyles in particular as he moved up seemed to throw softer at each level ... wear and tear ? Or was pitching that fast more of a ok throw as hard as you can for the gun type of thing . Do you think lyles has any chance of getting a few of those mph back . With rest/ strength training.... ? It would be awesome to see him sit at 92-3 instead of 89-91.

But once again thanks for all the BA info .. it must be a pain to type it all up
From reading the reports, Seaton definitely has the array of pitches to succeed. He got rocked in Lancaster and clearly felt the aftereffects for most of the season in Corpus. He has taken a beating the past couple of seasons, save for one month last season, but all he needs is stability. He'll get it by repeating Double-A. Repeating Corpus will benefit Ross Seaton greatly. I hope that he's learned from the beatings he has taken the past two seasons and that he can carry his strong finish to last season over to this season and pitch himself into contention for a callup.

My opinion on Seaton is that his numbers don't reflect his stuff. He's had the stuff to be a successful pitcher, but the results to this point have left a lot more to be desired. And part of it was because the Astros were expecting him to grow up quickly and that's hurt him development-wise and mentally. If he gave up fewer hits per 9 innings and had more strikeouts per 9 innings, Seaton could have been a fringe top-10 guy, even with his poor stats, because everyone would be talking about his upside, and how he hasn't quite put it all together yet. "But once he puts it all together, he could have the upside of a #3 or #4 starter."

That's just my opinion. I understand Jordan Lyles, who came from the same draft class and is younger than Seaton by several months, did not have as difficult a time in the minors, but the Astros have always considered him the more polished pitcher of the two.

As for the decrease in velocity, well, I'm just as in the dark as you are. (Sorry!) Pitcher and pitching coaches tinkering with mechanics? Trying to develop offspeed stuff? Lyles is still young and will be 21 all season, so he still has some physical upside. I can definitely see him getting back to 92-94 and up to 96 with his fastball by the time he's firmly established in the rotation. Same story with Seaton, although I'm looking to see how his slider progresses.
 
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As for the decrease in velocity, well, I'm just as in the dark as you are. (Sorry!) Pitcher and pitching coaches tinkering with mechanics? Trying to develop offspeed stuff? Lyles is still young and will be 21 all season, so he still has some physical upside. I can definitely see him getting back to 92-94 and up to 96 with his fastball by the time he's firmly established in the rotation. Same story with Seaton, although I'm looking to see how his slider progresses.
Thanks anyways man. I definitely feel that this year is a make or break ( as far as true prospect status goes ) for a number of our players like Seaton and Mier. I think that a bounce back year from either one of them turns them into a top 10 in our system. When looking purely at upside/ physical tools I really liked both of them coming into our system and although dissapointed havent given up on them yet.

I really hope Lyles velocity can go up ... even if slightly. The difference between him being at 92-94 and last seasons topping out at 91-2 makes it plausible for him to become a 1 or 2 starter. His change up can be dominant and if he can get a slightly above average fastball then with his savvy at 21 I would be really hopefull of him panning out to be a top of the rotation guy. Also I remember reading that since he is 6'4" and because he has long arms pure velocity doesnt matter as much with him... but i still wonder what happened if he really did flash that speed in 2008 and 09 . Hopefully you are right and he can get the velocity back.

Once again thanks for all of this info you are putting up ... Its gonna be an interesting season to watch the astros/ their minor league affiliates.
 
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15. Ruben "RJ" Alaniz, RHP

DOB: 6/4/91
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 195
Signed: Nondrafted free agent, Juarez-Lincoln HS (La Joya, TX), 2009

Grade: 50, High

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Alaniz has better stuff than the typical nondrafted free agent. His high school senior season was canceled in 2009 because of a swine flu outbreak in the Rio Grande Valley. He spent the summer pitching in tryouts and in a league based at Atlanta's East Cobb complex before the Astros signed him for $150,000. Alaniz is far from a finished product but has a chance to develop two plus pitches. His fastball is one of the system's best, sitting at 92-95 MPH at times and featuring short, late sink. He uses his heater confidently, with one club official saying, 'He likes to grip it and rip it.' His belief and control with his fastball helps him keep an aggressive tempo when he's throwing strikes. Alaniz found an effective grip with his changeup as the 2011 season progressed and started to trust it more in the second half. The more he used it, the more he threw it with the same release point and sinking action as his fastball. His changeup is a plus pitch on occasion. Houston considered his curveball the best in the system a year ago; it's a solid pitch at times but lacks consistency. Too often, his curve gets early, loopy action rather than late, sharp break, and he needs to [do] a better job of staying on top of it. Alaniz throws strikes and has gained about 20 pounds since signing, so he's on the path to developing the control and durability to be a workhorse starter. He's also an intriguing possibility as a power reliever. He'll remain in the rotation this year in high Class A.
14. Ariel Ovando, OF

DOB: 9/15/93
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 190
Signed: International free agent, 2010

Grade: 55, Extreme

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The Astros' most successful homegrown Latin American player in 2011 was 5-foot-7 Venezuelan second baseman Jose Altuve, who in many ways is the opposite of the organization's new poster boy for its Latin program, Ovando. Built like a shooting guard or wide receiver, Ovando is 6-foot-4 and still growing. He signed for a franchise-record $2.6 million in 2010 and had high expectations placed upon him from the start. Even in a half-season league, he had trouble staying healthy as nagging ankle, wrist, and hamstring injuries cost him at-bats. It was a good lesson on how he'll need to get stronger to survive the minor league grind. Ovando did improve simply by playing in an organized setting for the first time, now that he has gone through two instructional leagues and a summer of games. He has excellent leverage in his loose swing and impressed Appalachian League managers with his athleticism. All aspects of his game are raw, from his approach at the plate to his baserunning to his defense. He flashes plus arm strength, though it grades as below-average at times, and has fringy speed. Ovando could repeat Rookie ball or advance to the New York-Penn League after starting this season in extended spring training.
13. Jake Buchanan, RHP

DOB: 9/24/89
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'
Weight: 200
Drafted: North Carolina State, 8th round, 2010

Grade: 45, Medium

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At North Carolina State, Buchanan was a stock 6-foot righthander with an average three-pitch mix. After signing for $120,000 as an eighth-round pick in 2010, his career changed in March, when he decided to start throwing a slider, which soon morphed into a cutter. He also focused on throwing more two-seam fastballs in preparation for an assignment to high Class A. Buchanan didn't thrive at home, posting a 6.86 ERA at the wind tunnel that is Lancaster's Clear Channel Stadium, but he was outstanding on the road with a 2.17 ERA. He did it by pounding the strike zone aggressively with an 87-91 MPH fastball that touches 92, featuring the sink to produce a sterling 3.2 groundout/airout ratio with the JetHawks. Buchanan leans heavily on his cutter, using it and his fastball to pitch inside effectively. He also throws a changeup with some fade, and he uses his curveball as an early-count change of pace as well. He's efficient with all his pitches and sequences smartly, helping him shackle lefthanded hitters (.541 OPS in the Cal League). Buchanan doesn't make mistakes in the middle of the plate, allowing him to post the lowest ERA (3.91) ever for a full-time starter in the 16-season history of the Lancaster franchise. Buchanan finished the year with a strong Double-A start and will return to Corpus Christi to see if he can continue to avoid the middle of the plate. He profiles as a workhorse No. 4 or 5 starter.
12. Nick Tropeano, RHP

DOB: 8/27/90
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 205
Drafted: Stony Brook, 5th round, 2011

Grade: 50, High

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Tropeano ranked as the No. 1 prospect in the Atlantic Collegiate League after his freshman year, then helped lead Cotuit to the Cape Cod League championship in 2010 as the ace of the Kettleers' playoff staff. As a junior he led Stony Brook's emerging program to the America East regular-season title and a 42-12 record. Tropeano has honed a consistent formula, commanding his fastball and an excellent changeup that was one of the finest in the 2011 draft and is the best in the system. Tropeano's changeup is so good--- he throws it with deceptive arm speed and achieves quality fade--- that he pitched off it too much as an amateur, to the detriment of his fastball and slider. After signing for $155,700 as a fifth-round pick last June, he found more fastball velocity by simply throwing the pitch more often. He pitched at 91-94 MPH at times last in the short-season New York-Penn League and sat at 88-92 during instructional league. His slider has modest break and remains his third pitch. Tropeano's fastball command and changeup should help him move quickly, and he could reach high Class A in his first full pro season. The development of his slider will determine whether he remains a starter or moces to the bullpen, where he might be a late-inning asset with his dominant changeup.
11. Adrian Houser, RHP

DOB: 2/2/93
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 205
Drafted: Locust Grove High School (Locust Grove, Oklahoma), 2nd round (69th overall), 2011

Grade: 50, High

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Houser was the fourth Oklahoma high school pitcher drafted in 2011, and he still went 69th overall. It was a banner year in the state, and Houser was able to lead his Locust Grove High team (coached by his father Mike) to a state 4-A championship as both a pitcher and center fielder. He comes from a baseball family, with a cousin (Bob Davis) who played in the majors and an uncle (James Knott) who pitched briefly in the Mets system. The Astros gave Houser a $530,100 bonus in the second round to dissuade him from attending the University of Oklahoma. He made strides after signing, tossing five shutout innings in his final outing in the Rookie-level Appalachian League and impressing scouts in instructional league. Houser has two pitches that grab scouts' attention, with a low-90s fastball notable both for its sinking life and his ability to run it up to 95 MPH, and a hard curveball. He uses a high arm slot and works up and down in the zone with his fastball and curve. As with most young pitchers, he still has work to do with his changeup and fastball command. Houser likely will work on those areas of his game in extended spring training before going to short-season Tri-City in June.
 
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Edit: I'm guessing Tropeano, Hallock, Folty, Bushue, & Dufek. Shirley is another possibility, but I have to assume he will be in bullpen after all his injuries.

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10. Telvin Nash, 1B/OF

DOB: 2/20/91
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 230
Drafted: Griffin HS (Griffin, Georgia), 3rd round (100th overall), 2009

Grade: 50, High

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A prep teammate of Tim Beckham, the No. 1 overall pick in 2008, Nash was recruited by college football programs before committing to Kennesaw State for baseball. He homered five times in his first 15 games in 2011, his first stab at full-season ball, before a broken hamate bone in his left hand sidelined him for two months. Scouts look for players with a carrying tool, and Nash has one in his well above-average righthanded power. Even after hamate surgery, which usually saps a player's pop, he homered nine times in 210 at-bats. He has good bat speed and even better strength, and his bat will get quicker if he can eliminate a wrap in his swing. That flaw also leads to an excessive amount of strikeouts, though he's not afraid to take a walk. Nash has seen time at both first base and left field but projects as a subpar defender at both spots. He's a well below-average runner with fringy arm strength and iffy hands. With Jonathan Singleton joining the organization, Nash is blocked at first base and will have to work hard to become a passable left fielder. With the Astros moving to the American League, he could be their future DH. If healthy, he could put up huge home run numbers in Lancaster in 2012.
9. Mike Foltynewicz, RHP

DOB: 10/7/91
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 200
Drafted: Minooka HS (Minooka, Illinois), 1st round (19th overall), 2010

Grade: 55, High

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The Astros signed the top high school pitcher out of Illinois in back-to-back drafts in Tanner Bushue (second round, 2009) and Foltynewicz (19th overall, 2010). Recipient of a $1.305 million bonus, he lost his first nine decisions as a pro, including six of his first seven starts in 2011. A classic raw Midwestern prep pitcher, Foltynewicz is the best homegrown arm in the system. He combines a good pitcher's frame and athleticism to throw four-seam fastballs that sit in the low 90s and top out at 96 MPH. Houston has de-emphasized an 89-93 MPH two-seamer and a slider he used in high school, having him use mainly four-seamers and focus on a curveball. The Astros liked how he made the adjustments and had to stay on his catchers to have him throw more curves. Foltynewicz still is learning to throw the curve with power and confidence, but it has plus potential. He has solid feel for an average changeup. He needs to refine his control and command, because he doesn't throw enough strikes or miss enough bats. After adding pitching depth via trades, Houston won't have to rush Foltynewicz. He'll return to Lexington to open 2012 and should get tested by Lancaster's gusting winds and rock-hard infield later in the season. If everything comes together, he can be a No. 3 starter.
8. Delino DeShields Jr., 2B

DOB: 8/16/92
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 188
Drafted: Woodward Academy (College Park, Georgia), 1st round (8th overall), 2010

Grade: 60, Extreme

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The son of the big leaguer who once was traded for Pedro Martinez and now manages in the Reds system, DeShields doesn't look like his lithe father. He's built more like Mike Tyson and was a star prep football player before being drafted eighth overall in 2010. Signed for $2.125 million, he struggled in 2011 as the sixth-youngest regular in the South Atlantic League. DeShields' youth and inexperience showed in his first full pro season. He didn't make consistent contact but still showed bat speed and strength. He must improve his ability to identify pitches and work counts. He could develop average power, though he mostly drives balls to the gaps for now. DeShields graded as an 80 runner on the 20-80 scouting scale as an amateur, and as a 70 runner he adjusted to the pro grind, though he's still learning to maximize his speed on the bases. In his first extended time at second base, he improved his footwork and double-play pivot and became more consistent after making seven errors in his first 13 games. He has a fringy arm that will play in center field if he can't stick in the infield. The Astros are encouraged by DeShields' progress and still love his upside. He'll probably head back to low class A to start the 2012 season.
7. Brett Oberholtzer, LHP

DOB: 7/1/89
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 230
Drafted: Seminole CC, 8th round, 2008 by Atlanta

Grade: 50, Medium

Quote:
Oberholtzer grew up in suburban Philadelphia and was a fan of Michael Bourn when Bourn was a Phillies minor leaguer. He introduced himself to Bourn when their paths crossed in spring training when the Braves and Astros played, then he was traded---along with his Double-A road roomate Paul Clemens--- for Bourn last July. Oberholtzer combines a four-pitch mix with pitching savvy to try to let hitters get themselves out. He has a No. 4 starter profile with no plus pitch but a durable, innings-eating frame, and he knows his strengths and weaknesses. Oberholtzer pitches inside with his 88-92 MPH fastball, and his slider can be an asset when he locates it. He can back-foot it against righthanders and it helps him neutralize lefties. His average curveball has good shape, and his average changeup features solid arm speed. Without a true out pitch, Oberholtzer needs to hone his average control and improve his command of all his pitches. He has some funkiness in his delivery that gives him some deception. He has some similarities to J.A. Happ, another Houston trade acquisition, and to avoid Happ's 2011 struggles Oberholtzer will have to locate his pitches better. He and Clemens are headed to Triple-A in 2012 and will jockey for callup when the Astros need another starter.
6. Domingo Santana, OF

DOB: 8/5/92
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 200
Signed: International free agent, Dominican Republic, 2008 by Philadelphia

Grade: 60, High

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Santana was just 16 when he made his U.S. debut in 2009. He started 2011 as an 18-year old in low Class A with the Phillies, who signed him out of the Dominican for $330,000, and he stayed in the South Atlantic League after getting included in the Hunter Pence trade. Santana had 10 multihit games in his 17 starts for Lexington. Scouts acknowledge Santana's raw hitting approach and most think he'll always have his share of strikeouts. If he makes consistent contact, though, he could become a prototypical right fielder in the Jermaine Dye mole. Santana's combination of tremendous leverage and excellent bat speed creates monstrous raw power. He needs at-bats to see more pitches, learn to identify them and manage the strike zone better. He's an average runner, though not a basestealer, and has a plus arm. He has the tools to be an above-average defender in right field. The Astros envision an outfield of the future with J.D. Martinez in left, George Springer and Santana in right by the time they become competitive. If Santana cuts down on his strikeouts, he could move rapidly. He has a chance to put up sick numbers in Lancaster in 2012.
 
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Prospects 5-1

5. Paul Clemens, RHP

DOB: 2/14/88
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 180
Drafted: Louisburg Jr. College (North Carolina), 7th round, 2008 by Atlanta

Grade: 55, Medium

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Clemens broke Javier Lopez's single-game strikeout record at Robinson High (Fairfax, Va.), then took his raw power arm to Louisburg (N.C.) JC before signing with Atlanta as a seventh-rounder in 2008. Astros field coordinator Paul Runge got to know him at the end of his three-decade tenure in the Braves organization and recommended him strongly when Houston made the Michael Bourn trade last July... Clemens' fastball sits at 93-96 MPH. He has cleaned up his delivery and shortened his arm action over the last few years, helping him find the strike one more often, but he's still effectively wild. He has improved his direction to the plate, wasting less energy in his high-effort motion. Clemens' secondary pitches have progressed, and his mid-70s downer curve is a plus pitch at times. He also throws a hard cutter/slider hybrid as well as a solid changeup that enables him to handle lefthanders better than righthanders. Houston added Clemens to its 40-man roster in November and intends to keep him as a starter to hone his control and repertoire. He'll begin 2012 back at Triple-A Oklahoma city, where he made his final start of 2011. At worst, his strong arm should make him an effective big league reliever.
4. Jonathan Villar, SS

DOB: 5/2/91
Bats/Throws: Switch/Right
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 195
Signed: International free agent, Dominican Republic, 2008 by Philadelphia

Grade: 65, High

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Villar signed for a $105,000 in 2008 with the Phillies, who sent him to the Astros in the Roy Oswalt trade two years later. Teaming with steadier but less toolsy Jose Altuve at high Class A Lancaster and Corpus Christi, Villar had an uneven 2011 season, striking out a system-high 156 times and committing 36 errors. Villar's tools are loud, as he earns 60 and 70 grades on the 20-80 scouting scale for his speed, arm and defensive ability at shortstop. He's flashy, sometimes to a fault, on defense. Some scouts thought he coasted during the regular season, leading to careless errors and empty at-bats, but Villar competed much better in instructional league. He's a switch-hitter with solid gap power, particularly from the right side, but he won't fully tap into it until he stops chasing pitches out of the strike zone. He's more of a slasher while hitting lefthanded. An aggressive basestealer, he led Houston farmhands with 34 thefts in 46 tries in 2011. Villar may be the toolsiest shortstop in the minors other than the Rangers' Jurickson Profar, who's much more polished. The Astros hope to let Villar catch his breath a bit with a return to Double-A, but he could play his way into the major league mix in 2012.
3. George Springer, OF

DOB: 9/19/89
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 205
Drafted: University of Connecticut, 1st round (11th overall), 2011

Grade: 65, High

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Drafted out of high school by the Twins in the 48th round, Springer instead went to Connecticut, honing his raw tools and helping the Huskies reach back-to-back NCAA regionals. He also starred for the U.S. college national team in 2010 before becoming the 11th overall pick last June, the highest-drafted Husky ever. His $2.525 million bonus is the largest in Astros draft history. Springer has a power-speed combination in the Mike Cameron mold and could be a five-tool player if his bat becomes more consistent. His quick hands and strong wrists generate explosive bat speed and above-average power potential. His approach at the plate vacillates between too passive and too aggressive, but he sliced his strikeout rate from 29 percent as a sophomore to 16 percent as a junior. He needs to keep improving his pitch recognition and feel for the strike zone, but he isn't afraid to draw a walk. With his plus speed and arm strength, Springer can play center or right field. His speed also plays on the bases, as he stole 64 bases in 73 tries in his final two college seasons. The most well-rounded position player in the system, Springer could move quickly. He'll start 2012 at low Class A Lexington, with his bat dictating his timetable.
2. Jarred Cosart, RHP

DOB: 5/25/90
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 180
Drafted: Clear Creek HS (League City), 38th round, 2008 by Phillies

Grade: 65, High

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Shortly after Cosart starred in the 2011 Futures Game---he missed the 2010 contest with elbow tenderness---the Astros acquired him from the Phillies in the Hunter Pence deal. Promoted to Corpus Christi after the trade, he allowed one run or less in five of his seven Double-A starts. Some scouts describe Cosart's delivery as maximum effort, while Houston prefers to call it energetic. All sides agree his quick arm and athleticism produce electric stuff. "You see this little guy out there and then---wham!---the ball explodes out of his hand," said one scout. Cosart's fastball sits around 95 MPH and touches 98, and his curveball has excellent shape and upper-70s power when it's on. He also flashes a plus changeup that he throws with good arm speed. Cosart needs to add some strength and control his delivery in order to throw more strikes, which helps explain why someone with dominant stuff averaged a modest 6.3 strikeouts per nine innings in 2011. Some scouts question his durability because of his wiry build and high-effort delivery. Cosart has the stuff to be a No. 1 starter, though he may lack the command, consistency and durability to be a true ace. Ticketed for Double-A to start 2012, he could be a closer in the Brad Lidge mold if starting doesn't work out.
1. Jonathan Singleton, 1B/OF

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The Astros scouted Singleton heavily for the 2009 draft, Bobby Heck's second as scouting director. Singleton had a subpar senior season at Millikan High in Long Beach and fell to the eighth round, where he signed with the Phillies for $200,000. Almost immediately, he outperformed his draft round. He tore up the low Class A South Atlantic League in the first half of 2010, and though he cooled off afterward, he still ranked as the circuit's No. 1 prospect at season's end. With Ryan Howard signed through 2016, Philadelphia moved Singleton to left field in instructional league after the 2010 season, then moved him to Houston last July... One Phillies official said of all the prospects his team has traded the last three years... Singleton has the highest upside.

Scouts use words like "explosive" and impact when describing Singleton's bat. He has pure hitting skills with emerging home run power. He uses the whole field naturally while showing the bat speed to turn on good fastballs. He has the barrel awareness, hitting rhythm, and timing teams want in a middle-of-the-order threat. He draws power from both his lower half and his strong hands and wrists. Singleton's well above-average pop presently plays more as average, as he's too patient at times and lets pitches go by that he should drive. He has advanced pitch recognition for his experience level, though, which should allow his power to grow as he gains experience. The biggest concern will be how he fares against lefthanders. Scouts say he hangs in well against breaking balls for his age, but he batted .248 with no homers against southpaws in 153 at-bats in 2011. While he's not as athletic as his father Herb, who played quarterback for Oregon in the early 1970s, Singleton is "baseball athletic," as one Astros official put it, with good body control and coordination. He's better defensively at first base than in left field, where his well below-average speed was a hindrance. Houston still could give him some time in left to maintain some versatility but prefers him at first, where he has nimble feet. He has enough arm strength at first base and makes accurate throws. One scout expressed some trepidation that Singleton could get too big and immobile if he doesn't watch his body.

Brett Wallace was the key piece in the deal that sent Roy Oswalt to the Phillies in 2010, but he won't be an impediment to Singleton, the Astros' first baseman and No. 3 hitter of the future. Singleton will start 2012 at Double-A Corpus Christi and could spent the next two seasons in the minors and/or move back to left field if Wallace fulfills his early promise. If Wallace continues to struggle to get to his power, Singleton could take over in Houston in 2013. The best first-base prospect in the minors, he has a chanve to hit .300 with 25-30 homers annually.
And there you have it. The Houston Astros' top 30 prospects, according to Baseball America.
 
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5. Paul Clemens, RHP

DOB: 2/14/88
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 180
Drafted: Louisburg Jr. College (North Carolina), 7th round, 2008 by Atlanta

Grade: 55, Medium

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Clemens broke Javier Lopez's single-game strikeout record at Robinson High (Fairfax, Va.), then took his raw power arm to Louisburg (N.C.) JC before signing with Atlanta as a seventh-rounder in 2008. Astros field coordinator Paul Runge got to know him at the end of his three-decade tenure in the Braves organization and recommended him strongly when Houston made the Michael Bourn trade last July... Clemens' fastball sits at 93-96 MPH. He has cleaned up his delivery and shortened his arm action over the last few years, helping him find the strike one more often, but he's still effectively wild. He has improved his direction to the plate, wasting less energy in his high-effort motion. Clemens' secondary pitches have progressed, and his mid-70s downer curve is a plus pitch at times. He also throws a hard cutter/slider hybrid as well as a solid changeup that enables him to handle lefthanders better than righthanders. Houston added Clemens to its 40-man roster in November and intends to keep him as a starter to hone his control and repertoire. He'll begin 2012 back at Triple-A Oklahoma city, where he made his final start of 2011. At worst, his strong arm should make him an effective big league reliever.
4. Jonathan Villar, SS

DOB: 5/2/91
Bats/Throws: Switch/Right
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 195
Signed: International free agent, Dominican Republic, 2008 by Philadelphia

Grade: 65, High

Quote:
Villar signed for a $105,000 in 2008 with the Phillies, who sent him to the Astros in the Roy Oswalt trade two years later. Teaming with steadier but less toolsy Jose Altuve at high Class A Lancaster and Corpus Christi, Villar had an uneven 2011 season, striking out a system-high 156 times and committing 36 errors. Villar's tools are loud, as he earns 60 and 70 grades on the 20-80 scouting scale for his speed, arm and defensive ability at shortstop. He's flashy, sometimes to a fault, on defense. Some scouts thought he coasted during the regular season, leading to careless errors and empty at-bats, but Villar competed much better in instructional league. He's a switch-hitter with solid gap power, particularly from the right side, but he won't fully tap into it until he stops chasing pitches out of the strike zone. He's more of a slasher while hitting lefthanded. An aggressive basestealer, he led Houston farmhands with 34 thefts in 46 tries in 2011. Villar may be the toolsiest shortstop in the minors other than the Rangers' Jurickson Profar, who's much more polished. The Astros hope to let Villar catch his breath a bit with a return to Double-A, but he could play his way into the major league mix in 2012.
3. George Springer, OF

DOB: 9/19/89
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 205
Drafted: University of Connecticut, 1st round (11th overall), 2011

Grade: 65, High

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Drafted out of high school by the Twins in the 48th round, Springer instead went to Connecticut, honing his raw tools and helping the Huskies reach back-to-back NCAA regionals. He also starred for the U.S. college national team in 2010 before becoming the 11th overall pick last June, the highest-drafted Husky ever. His $2.525 million bonus is the largest in Astros draft history. Springer has a power-speed combination in the Mike Cameron mold and could be a five-tool player if his bat becomes more consistent. His quick hands and strong wrists generate explosive bat speed and above-average power potential. His approach at the plate vacillates between too passive and too aggressive, but he sliced his strikeout rate from 29 percent as a sophomore to 16 percent as a junior. He needs to keep improving his pitch recognition and feel for the strike zone, but he isn't afraid to draw a walk. With his plus speed and arm strength, Springer can play center or right field. His speed also plays on the bases, as he stole 64 bases in 73 tries in his final two college seasons. The most well-rounded position player in the system, Springer could move quickly. He'll start 2012 at low Class A Lexington, with his bat dictating his timetable.
2. Jarred Cosart, RHP

DOB: 5/25/90
Bats/Throws: Right/Right
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 180
Drafted: Clear Creek HS (League City), 38th round, 2008 by Phillies

Grade: 65, High

Quote:
Shortly after Cosart starred in the 2011 Futures Game---he missed the 2010 contest with elbow tenderness---the Astros acquired him from the Phillies in the Hunter Pence deal. Promoted to Corpus Christi after the trade, he allowed one run or less in five of his seven Double-A starts. Some scouts describe Cosart's delivery as maximum effort, while Houston prefers to call it energetic. All sides agree his quick arm and athleticism produce electric stuff. "You see this little guy out there and then---wham!---the ball explodes out of his hand," said one scout. Cosart's fastball sits around 95 MPH and touches 98, and his curveball has excellent shape and upper-70s power when it's on. He also flashes a plus changeup that he throws with good arm speed. Cosart needs to add some strength and control his delivery in order to throw more strikes, which helps explain why someone with dominant stuff averaged a modest 6.3 strikeouts per nine innings in 2011. Some scouts question his durability because of his wiry build and high-effort delivery. Cosart has the stuff to be a No. 1 starter, though he may lack the command, consistency and durability to be a true ace. Ticketed for Double-A to start 2012, he could be a closer in the Brad Lidge mold if starting doesn't work out.
1. Jonathan Singleton, 1B/OF

DOB: 9/18/91
Bats/Throws: Left/Left
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 215
Drafted: Millikan HS (Long Beach, California), 8th round, 2009 by Phillies

Grade: 65, Medium

Quote:
The Astros scouted Singleton heavily for the 2009 draft, Bobby Heck's second as scouting director. Singleton had a subpar senior season at Millikan High in Long Beach and fell to the eighth round, where he signed with the Phillies for $200,000. Almost immediately, he outperformed his draft round. He tore up the low Class A South Atlantic League in the first half of 2010, and though he cooled off afterward, he still ranked as the circuit's No. 1 prospect at season's end. With Ryan Howard signed through 2016, Philadelphia moved Singleton to left field in instructional league after the 2010 season, then moved him to Houston last July... One Phillies official said of all the prospects his team has traded the last three years... Singleton has the highest upside.

Scouts use words like "explosive" and impact when describing Singleton's bat. He has pure hitting skills with emerging home run power. He uses the whole field naturally while showing the bat speed to turn on good fastballs. He has the barrel awareness, hitting rhythm, and timing teams want in a middle-of-the-order threat. He draws power from both his lower half and his strong hands and wrists. Singleton's well above-average pop presently plays more as average, as he's too patient at times and lets pitches go by that he should drive. He has advanced pitch recognition for his experience level, though, which should allow his power to grow as he gains experience. The biggest concern will be how he fares against lefthanders. Scouts say he hangs in well against breaking balls for his age, but he batted .248 with no homers against southpaws in 153 at-bats in 2011. While he's not as athletic as his father Herb, who played quarterback for Oregon in the early 1970s, Singleton is "baseball athletic," as one Astros official put it, with good body control and coordination. He's better defensively at first base than in left field, where his well below-average speed was a hindrance. Houston still could give him some time in left to maintain some versatility but prefers him at first, where he has nimble feet. He has enough arm strength at first base and makes accurate throws. One scout expressed some trepidation that Singleton could get too big and immobile if he doesn't watch his body.

Brett Wallace was the key piece in the deal that sent Roy Oswalt to the Phillies in 2010, but he won't be an impediment to Singleton, the Astros' first baseman and No. 3 hitter of the future. Singleton will start 2012 at Double-A Corpus Christi and could spent the next two seasons in the minors and/or move back to left field if Wallace fulfills his early promise. If Wallace continues to struggle to get to his power, Singleton could take over in Houston in 2013. The best first-base prospect in the minors, he has a chanve to hit .300 with 25-30 homers annually.
And there you have it. The Houston Astros' top 30 prospects, according to Baseball America.

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I like how Ba said we have the best first base prospect in the minors and how villar is the SS with the 2nd most potential.

I also liked that they rated Clemens at 5 since most people ar sorta down on him ... if he ever improves his control he has number 2 starter stuff. If some of the astros younger arms do well this year ( and there is alot of room for improvement ) then i think our system ranking should shoot up . Also if springer and ovando and santana live up to expectations ( or exceed them ) then we probably have one the best sytems regarding outfield prospects .
 
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Thanks for posting that! It just seems like a waiting game at this point. Only Obie and Clemens are starting the year at AAA. Everyone else is double A and (well) below, so we're still going to wait 2-3 years on the bulk of these prospects. It's so exciting that we have projectable major league players in the system again. I hope the Stros are spending as much money on development as they did on signing bonuses...

I'd really like to see a breakout year by one of the high upside guys, DDJ, Villar, Ovando or Santana. After seeing Jio Mier disappoint year after year, a high-upside breakout would be sooo nice.
 
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Thanks for posting that! It just seems like a waiting game at this point. Only Obie and Clemens are starting the year at AAA. Everyone else is double A and (well) below, so we're still going to wait 2-3 years on the bulk of these prospects. It's so exciting that we have projectable major league players in the system again. I hope the Stros are spending as much money on development as they did on signing bonuses...

I'd really like to see a breakout year by one of the high upside guys, DDJ, Villar, Ovando or Santana. After seeing Jio Mier disappoint year after year, a high-upside breakout would be sooo nice.
The AA players could easily be in Houston by season's end.

Definitely a big year for the guys repeating a level, like Folty, DDJ, & Villar. I'm actually very happy reading Folty's writeup as he was very disappointing last year, but I guess that is to be expected when you are reworking his pitches.

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Random question about development. How common is it for prospects to come up to the majors and only throw three different pitches. It seems like the Astros really emphasize nailing down two plus pitches and having at least one average third pitch. You never read about any Astros prospects coming up with 4 pitches.
 
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Random question about development. How common is it for prospects to come up to the majors and only throw three different pitches. It seems like the Astros really emphasize nailing down two plus pitches and having at least one average third pitch. You never read about any Astros prospects coming up with 4 pitches.
3 pitches is the norm. It is one of the common differences attributed between starting pitchers and bullpen pitchers (who usually throw 2). I think the reasoning behind 3 pitches is probably because they don't want plus pitches to suffer from adding more average pitches.

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3 pitches is the norm. It is one of the common differences attributed between starting pitchers and bullpen pitchers (who usually throw 2). I think the reasoning behind 3 pitches is probably because they don't want plus pitches to suffer from adding more average pitches.
Gotcha, thanks. I thought 4 was the norm for starters.
 
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Gotcha, thanks. I thought 4 was the norm for starters.
I think 4 is common (but often developed later). I don't know how often pitchers use a 4th pitch, just that the prevailing thought process is that starters need at least 3 pitches.

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1. Jonathan Singleton, OF/1B
BORN: Sept. 18, 1991
EXPERIENCE: 3 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2009 8th round, California HS (by Philadelphia)
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 2nd (Philadelphia)

Although he already has three seasons already under his belt Singelton did not turn 20 years old until after the regular season concluded in 2011. The former Phillies prospect is definitely the type of player that the new front office in Houston can eventually build around. He should hit for average and power at the big league level. He shows both power and good pitch recognition but he’s too passive at times and allows too many drivable pitches to go by. It’s also one of the reasons that his strikeout rate jumped from 16.5% in 2010 to 24% in 2011. Singleton has yet to display above-average power numbers, having failed to surpass the .200 mark in isolated slugging, but he should eventually hit 20+ home runs at the big league level. Defensively, the prospect has played both first base and left field, as he was blocked in Philly by Ryan Howard. His defense in left field is average-at-best due to below-average range. Luckily, there should be no roadblocks at first base in Houston. Singleton will move up to double-A to begin 2012 and could see time at the big league level by the end of the season.

2. George Springer, OF
BORN: Sept. 19, 1989
EXPERIENCE: 1 season
ACQUIRED: 2011 1st round, University of Connecticut
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: NA

Springer offered one of the highest ceilings in the 2011 draft, even in comparing him to the top prep players, but he’s also more raw than most top college picks. He is the epitome of the high-risk, high-reward player – and that’s exactly the type of prospect that an organization like Houston, nearly devoid of high-ceiling talent, needs to take. His biggest plus right now is his defense. He can easily handle center field but he has the arm of a right-fielder. Springer’s above-average speed helps him cover a lot of ground in center. At the plate, though, he has a lot of work to do. He swings and misses too much because his swing gets long and struggles with good breaking balls. If he develops as hoped, Spring could become a four- or five-tool hitter with his ability to hit for average as the biggest question mark. He should open 2012 in low-A ball, with an outside shot of landing in high-A.

3. Jarred Cosart, RHP
BORN: May 25, 1990
EXPERIENCE: 3 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2008 38th round, Texas HS (by Philadelphia)
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 3rd (Philadelphia)

Cosart came to Houston along with Jonathan Singleton, as well as two more prospects, in exchange for outfielder Hunter Pence. On pure talent alone, Cosart could develop into a No. 1 or 2 starter. However, his delivery has a fair bit of effort to it and he’s already had issues with staying healthy (including elbow problems). As a result, he could eventually find himself at the back end of the bullpen as a high-leverage reliever. For now, though, he’ll continue to pitch out of the starting rotation. His repertoire includes a 91-95 mph fastball and a potentially-plus curveball. Cosart has made big strides with his changeup over the past three seasons and it’s now an average offering. The right-hander has decent control but he struggles with his fastball command, which is a main reason why his strikeout rate took a fairly big nosedive in 2011. Cosart was promoted from high-A to double-A upon the trade from Philly and he should return to that level to begin 2012.

4. Brett Oberholtzer, LHP
BORN: July 1, 1989
EXPERIENCE: 4 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2008 8th round, Florida Community College (by Atlanta)
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: Off (Atlanta)

The run on acquired talent continues. Oberholtzer came over to Houston from Atlanta last season in the Michael Bourn deal. The left-hander doesn’t have a huge ceiling but but he could develop into a No. 3 or 4 starter capable of providing 200+ innings of work each season. He features four average pitches: an 87-92 mph fastball, slider, curveball and changeup. Oberholtzer shows good control but his command comes and goes. I’d like to see him keep on top of his pitches better and work down in the zone more consistently, which would help him induce more ground-ball outs thus increasing his value. With a good showing in spring training the southpaw could receive an assignment to triple-A and could be one of the first pitchers called up from the minors in 2012.

5. Paul Clemens, RHP
BORN: Feb. 14, 1988
EXPERIENCE: 4 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2008 7th round, North Carolina junior college
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: Off (Atlanta)

Also acquired in the Michael Bourn deal, Clemens has better pure stuff than Brett Oberholtzer but he’s also more raw and could very well end up in the bullpen as an eighth-inning reliever. His fastball can reach the mid-90s but he has a high-effort delivery and struggles with both his command and control. Clemens’ repertoire also includes a curveball, cutter and changeup. The curve shows the most promise. Houston will most certainly look to keep him in the starting rotation as long as possible and he should open 2012 in triple-A. Like Oberholtzer, Clemens could reach the Majors this season

6. Jonathan Villar, SS
BORN: May 2, 1991
EXPERIENCE: 4 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2008 international free agent (by Philadelphia)
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 10th

Villar is yet another toolsy prospect in the system but his offensive numbers have been disappointing over the past three years despite spending parts of the past two seasons in the hitting-dream that is Lancaster of the California League. Villar spent much of 2011 in double-A but struggled with a wRC+ of just 83 because he needs to improve his pitch recognition and learn how to effectively use the entire field. On the plus side, he won’t turn 21 until May so age is on his side. In the field he displays outstanding range and a strong arm but he makes too many careless mistakes. Villar may end up being one of those players that performs better in the Majors than in the minors. He could return to double-A to begin 2012 but may see triple-A by mid-season if he can show some improvements. If he can’t make the necessary adjustments at the upper levels, the switch-hitter will top out as a utility player.

7. Domingo Santana, OF
BORN: Aug. 5, 1992
EXPERIENCE: 3 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2008 international free agent (by Philadelphia)
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 9th (Philadelphia)

Tell me if you’ve heard this one before: A raw, high-ceiling player walks into the Astros’ clubhouse… Santana is yet another piece acquired in the Hunter Pence trade. The outfielder was a fairly significant international signing by the Phillies back in ’08 by scouting machine Sal Agostinelli. Santana has intriguing bat speed, which generates massive power – when he makes contact with the ball. Unfortunately, he swings and misses a lot (30.7 K% before his trade to Houston in ’11) and is fairly one-dimensional as a hitter who has maintained respectable batting averages in the minors due to very high BABIPs. The Dominican Repulbic native offers a plus arm on defense and should be an average defender in right field. Still just 18, he has a massive 6’5” and will have to stay on top of his conditioning as he ages. Santana should move up to high-A ball where he could really enjoy hitting in Lancaster.

8. Delino DeShields, 2B
BORN: Aug. 16, 1992
EXPERIENCE: 2 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2010 1st round, Georgia HS
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: 2nd

The club’s first round draft pick from 2010, DeShields is a little more raw than expected – especially considering his pedigree (His father Delino Sr. was also a first-round pick and spent 13 seasons in the Majors with more than 400 steals). Junior has plus speed like his father but he has a much different (more compact) body type. Although he’s just 5’9”, he provides above-average gap power for his size and could eventually hit 15 home runs as a big leaguer. DeShields could also steal 30-40 bases a year once he refines his base running. His first full pro season didn’t go as well as hoped. He hit just .222 and struck out almost 22% of the time in 469 at-bats. He did, though, show some patience at the plate and walked at a rate of almost 10%. DeShields is still learning the nuances of second base after playing mostly third base and the outfield as an amateur. He has solid range, improving actions and a fringe-average arm. Despite his struggles in 2011, DeShields could face a promotion to high-A if he hits OK this spring. The California League could help boost his numbers – and his confidence along with it.

9. Telvin Nash, OF/1B
BORN: Feb. 20, 1991
EXPERIENCE: 3 seasons
ACQUIRED: 2009 3rd round, Georgia HS
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: Off

Nash, a former star football player in high school, displays above-average power potential. He missed significant time in 2011 due to surgery to remove his hamate bone and his numbers may have been impacted after his return. Nash has always produced huge strikeout rates and he’ll probably continue to do so throughout his career, which will also result in modest batting averages. On the plus side, he shows good patience and takes and high number of walks. On defense, the Georgia native is below average, both at first base and in left field. Already 230 lbs, he’ll have to watch his conditioning as he matures. If he hits well in the spring Nash, 21, should receive a promotion to high-A ball where his power could really flourish.

10. Adrian Houser, LHP
BORN: Feb. 2, 1993
EXPERIENCE: 1 season
ACQUIRED: 2011 2nd round, Oklahoma HS
2010-11 TOP 10 RANKING: NA

An intriguing 2011 draft pick, Houser was a two-way player in high school. Now that he’s focusing solely on pitching, the right-hander could see his fastball velocity hit the mid-90s on a more consistent basis. His fastball currently sits in the 87-92 mph range and his second-best pitch is a curveball. Like most prep pitchers, Houser’s changeup needs a lot of work to become an average offering. He already features a big, strong frame and should be able to provide tons of innings at the big league level during his prime. He also has the potential to produce above-average ground-ball rates is he can command the ball effectively in the lower half of the zone. He signed quickly enough to appear in 12 games (11 starts) after signing his first pro contact. With a strong spring Houser could open 2012 in low-A ball.

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11. Austin Wates, OF: Already 23, Wates had a very solid year in 2011 but was playing in a potent, offensive-minded league. He has little power because he rarely tries to pull the ball. On the plus side Wates hits for average, gets on base at a good clip and displays solid speed on the base paths and in the outfield, although he’s a raw defender.

12. Mike Foltynewicz, RHP: Projection is Foltynewicz’s middle name. He has a big, strong frame and can touch 95 mph with his fastball. His repertoire also features a curveball, slider, and changeup. The Illinois native is still raw so it wouldn’t be a huge loss if he returns to low-A ball for a little more seasoning – something that is likely given the alternative (the California League).

13. Jack Armstrong Jr., RHP: The son of a big leaguer by the same name, Armstrong is a hard-throwing college draftee who has battled to stay healthy despite his big (6’7”) frame. With a fastball that can touch the mid-90s, as well as a curveball and changeup, the right-hander has the ceiling of a No. 2 or 3 starter but his health issues could push him to a role in the bullpen.

14. Ariel Ovando, OF: A top international signee, given more than $2 million, Ovando has an impressive frame and good power potential. He’s a raw hitter overall, though. Ovando also has a strong arm but is still learning the finer aspects of playing the outfield. He should spend a second year in extended spring training.

15. Kyle Weiland, RHP: The Notre Dame alum moved fairly swiftly through the Red Sox system and made three big league starts in 2011. He was part of the reward for reliever Mark Melancon during this past off-season. Weiland’s fastball can hit 95-96 mph, and his induces a decent number of ground-ball outs, but none of his other pitches are particularly sharp (curveball, cutter, changeup). A minor league starter, his future may be as a set-up man.

SLEEPER ALERT: Jordan Scott, OF: An under-the-radar signing out of a South Carolina high school, Scott has turned himself into a solid prospect. He has the potential to develop into a top-of-the-order hitter with good on-base skills, solid speed and he isn’t afraid to work the count. A left-handed hitter, he needs some polish against southpaws. Defensively his best position is left field but he has also seen time in center.
 
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2-3 breakouts among that list and we're in business. Depth is nice.
 

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