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Raven is offline Old 06-20-2012, 04:10 AM   #3861
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Lowry 14 16 to Portland for their 6 11

Then draft Meyers and Perry Jones.
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t0mdotcom is offline Old 06-20-2012, 07:54 PM   #3862
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With the Wizards trading for Okafor, maybe they are wanting to trade Nene and draft a younger C/PF ( or a SG like Beal). They still need a wing scorer.

(even though the wizard/hornets trade went down, I still did it on the trade machine)

Rockets receive: Nene & Gasol

Wizards receive: Okafor, K. Martin, Ariza

Hornets receive: R. Lewis

Lakers receive: Scola, Dalembert, #14 and #16 via Houston

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=867vhjm

Then trade Lowry for a Top 10 Pick (Kings, Blazers, Raptors)
 
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For the #2 pick...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...d=85cffqd(+#14)

For the #6 pick...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...rk8j59(+Dallas' future pick)

For the #18 or #21 pick...
Chase Budinger


Is this realistic enough??

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coachbadlee is offline Old 06-21-2012, 08:08 AM   #3864
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For the #2 pick...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=85cffqd(+#14)
For the #6 pick...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6rk8j59(+Dallas' future pick)For the #18 or #21 pick...
Chase Budinger


Is this realistic enough??

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fattz is offline Old 06-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #3865
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This should be preseason... lockout -_-



If and only if we sign C. Lee to a long term deal.

In: Darko Milicic, Wesley Johnson, Anthony Randloph and a first rounder or two

Out: Kevin Martin and Chase Budinger

T-Wolves - Their GM must win now or he is gone - picks do not matter to him at this point. They need a two and scoring in the worst way. These are R.A. pets and know HIS system and can help win NOW. (these two players have more value to the T-Wolves & R.A. than they do to Rockets going forward, IMO)

Rockets - YES!! we are giving a lot, but
- Wesley Johnson is reason for the deal he is a superstar on the wrong team, playing in the wrong spot, for the wrong coaching staff. When/if R.A. gets a hold of this kid we will read about him daily. He is the answer to the small forward problem we have. 2012 Salary: $4,006,080 3 years remaining.
-Darko Milicic is a servicable two way player (we need a center so bad that D.M. is worth trading for - that hurt to say but it is true). 2012 Salary: $4,776,500 3 years remaining.
-Anthony Randloph is a wild card, much like our T.Williams, if he can "put all the pieces together" look out & if not he is in his last year of his contract no real loss. 2012 Salary: $2,911,231 1 year remaining.
-A first round pick or two helps even the trade up


Give time, time
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I like this trade, but I would first see if Derrick Williams was available, before I pull the trigger on Martin for Johnson. I believe Derrick can make the transition to the three spot at the NBA level.
The names have changed a little but the trade is still the basicaly same

Martin(his trade value is down now - but RA is the coach) & Budinger
...for...
Darko Milicic & Derrick Williams (plus the 18th if possible)

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Hearing Houston Rockets have a deal in the works to move Sam Dalembert and possibly the 16th pick about 27 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1yS6QsFbz

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA
 
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Hearing Houston Rockets have a deal in the works to move Sam Dalembert and possibly the 16th pick about 27 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1yS6QsFbz

http://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA
I wonder for what
 
RealContender is offline Old 06-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #3868
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HOU gets

#18

MIN gets

Kevin Martin

AND

HOU gets

Gerald Henderson
#31

CHA gets

#18
Chase Budinger


FINALLY...

HOU gets

#8

TOR gets

#16
Kyle Lowry


So, we end up with:

#8 (Dion Waiters)
#14 (Arnett Moultrie)
#31 (JaMychal Green)
 
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Okay, so nevermind on the Budinger inclusion in the CHA trade. Just read the new post about us picking up Bud's option.

Would #18 (from MIN) [or 16] be enough by itself to get Henderson and #31?
 
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Okay, so nevermind on the Budinger inclusion in the CHA trade. Just read the new post about us picking up Bud's option.

Would #18 (from MIN) [or 16] be enough by itself to get Henderson and #31?
I think you called Charlie P and reported this trade if im not mistaken? Next time please roll up your window when you call. and like Charlie said, isnt Henderson just a white Chase Budinger? This is as lateral a move as possible. why would we give up the 18th for the exact same player. Also when a team picks up a player option it is probably more likely to be traded compared to not. this way they can sell it to a team that you have a guy on the cheap for 2 years instead of 1 and done.
 
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I think you called Charlie P and reported this trade if im not mistaken? Next time please roll up your window when you call. and like Charlie said, isnt Henderson just a white Chase Budinger? This is as lateral a move as possible. why would we give up the 18th for the exact same player. Also when a team picks up a player option it is probably more likely to be traded compared to not. this way they can sell it to a team that you have a guy on the cheap for 2 years instead of 1 and done.
Gerald Henderson and Chase Budinger aren't the same type of player AT ALL.
 
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Gerald Henderson and Chase Budinger aren't the same type of player AT ALL.
U r right, Bud is taller, a better shooter, and paid less.
 
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One is a spot up jumpshooter, while the other one tends to drive more, no?
 
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One is a spot up jumpshooter, while the other one tends to drive more, no?
Which is which, Bud drove alot under adelman, but shoots more now. Henderson shoots 22% from 3. As a SHOOTING guard, 22% is miserable.
 
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Which is which, Bud drove alot under adelman, but shoots more now. Henderson shoots 22% from 3. As a SHOOTING guard, 22% is miserable.
Budinger is maxed out, Henderson still can improve his jumper and has more potential.

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60% of Henderson's FGs were assisted. The same % of assisted baskets as Courtney Lee. The guy does not create that many if his own shots made. He is also miserable efficiency-wise (51% TS%) and does not have many assists.

Basically, Henderson is not much more than a replacement level player. He gets minutes only because he played on the 1st or 2nd worst team in NBA history. The guy would not have gotten into the rotation had he been on the Rockets last year, let alone some actual high level teams.

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ric_flair is offline Old 06-21-2012, 10:23 PM   #3877
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60% of Henderson's FGs were assisted. The same % of assisted baskets as Courtney Lee. The guy does not create that many if his own shots made. He is also miserable efficiency-wise (51% TS%) and does not have many assists.

Basically, Henderson is not much more than a replacement level player. He gets minutes only because he played on the 1st or 2nd worst team in NBA history. The guy would not have gotten into the rotation had he been on the Rockets last year, let alone some actual high level teams.

Holy crap, the great Carl Herrera agrees with me on this one.... Im honored sir.
 
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should try a three team deal with us oklahoma, and atl centered around hortford, harden and perkins, with hortford going to okc...harden and perkins to atl and kirk h.and atl. draft pick to us, and we package sam d. to whichever team...
 
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should try a three team deal with us oklahoma, and atl centered around hortford, harden and perkins, with hortford going to okc...harden and perkins to atl and kirk h.and atl. draft pick to us, and we package sam d. to whichever team...
To an earlier poster..Yes, I did call Charlie yesterday. I frequently call his show when my schedule permits.

I like Henderson's upside...although yes, his 3 pt shot is horrendous. I was thinking of the trade from the standpoint of "What SG are we going to draft that's better than Henderson?"

Giving up a backup 3 for a potential starting 2 was my way of thinking.

Anyway...you mentioned Harden in a trade. I still think he's a heck of a player. He just 4 miserable Finals performances. I wouldn't mind Morey kicking the tires and seeing if he can get him here.

Also, what about trading for Ibaka? He under contract thru next season.
 
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Trade 14 for 21 and 22 (and future pick?).

Kevin Martin + #21 for Joakim Noah. (They can pay Asik and that center overseas who's coming over.)

#22 to satisfy Brooklyn obligation.

#16 for Royce or Teague.
 

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