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[ALL-NBA DRAFT] Elimination Round: Pool G (freeze00up, greenhippos, RocketsRed14)

Discussion in 'Fantasy Sports' started by dharocks, Aug 29, 2011.

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Who has the WEAKEST team?

Poll closed Sep 1, 2011.

  1. freeze00up

    6 vote(s)
    8.6%

  2. greenhippos

    58 vote(s)
    82.9%

  3. RocketsRed14

    6 vote(s)
    8.6%
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  1. dharocks

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    Teams have been assembled and it's time to trim the field from 24 to 16. In this round, the team that receives the MOST votes will be eliminated from the competition. Review the rosters, then vote for the team which you believe is the WEAKEST.

    freeze00up
    PG - Andre Miller / Eric Bledsoe
    SG - Kobe Bryant
    SF - Andrei Kirilenko / Boris Diaw
    PF - David West
    C - Javale McGee / Kwame Brown

    N.B.: freeze00up did not make his final pick for some unspecified reason. I have given his team Kwame Brown. Decide for yourselves if that's a good thing.

    greenhippos
    PG - Jrue Holiday
    SG - Ronnie Brewer / Monta Ellis
    SF - Shawn Marion
    PF - JJ Hickson / Glen Davis
    C - Channing Frye / Tyrus Thomas

    RocketsRed14
    PG - Beno Udrih
    SG - Marco Belinelli / Jamal Crawford
    SF - Paul Pierce / Reggie Williams
    PF - Patrick Patterson
    C - Andrew Bogut / Derrick Favors

    As a reminder, you're voting on which team you believe should be eliminated, not which team is the best. Voting will end Thursday at 30 minutes past midnight.

    N.B.: 2010-11 performance is being used as a baseline for projecting player performance.
     
    #1 dharocks, Aug 29, 2011
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  2. greenhippos

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    well at first I figured I would just let the voting take its course, but I guess after the first half hour of voting I might as well make my case.

    Posting stats and numbers shortly.
     
    #2 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
  3. RocketsRed14

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    Oh gosh here it comes :eek:
     
    #3 RocketsRed14, Aug 29, 2011
  4. greenhippos

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    its just their simple stats, not everyone knows who Marco is, wouldn't you want the people voting to know your team?
     
    #4 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
  5. RocketsRed14

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    I was just playing lol, we can defend our teams
     
    #5 RocketsRed14, Aug 29, 2011
  6. kingjosh

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    I have no idea how freeze is losing to greenhippos, He has the better player at every position.
     
    #6 kingjosh, Aug 29, 2011
  7. RocketsRed14

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    This is voting who the worst is. If you voted for freeze then you think he is the worst.
     
    #7 RocketsRed14, Aug 29, 2011
  8. greenhippos

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    hahahaha, you made my night sir.
     
    #8 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
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    For the guards I'll post ppg/apg/rpg/spg. For big men I'll leave out the assists and add in blocks. Then add in shooting % (fg, 3pt (for guards or where applicable) ft) Then their defensive ratings.

    Freeze

    Miller: 12.7/7.0/3.7/1.4 - .460/.108/.853 Def: 108
    Bledsoe: 6.7/3.6/2.8/1.1 - .424/.276/.744 Def: 108
    Bryant: 25.3/4.7/5.1/1.2 - .451/.323/.828 Def: 105
    Kirilenko: 11.7/1.2/5.1/1.3 - .467/.367/.770 Def: 109
    Diaw: 11.3/4.1/5.0/0.9 - .492/.345/.683 Def: 109
    West: 18.9/0.9/7.6/1.0 - .508//.807 Def: 104
    McGee: 10.1/2.4//8.0/0.5 - .550//.583 Def: 106
    Brown: 7.9/0.6/6.8/0.4 - .517//.589 Def: 108

    ......looks like it's a little too late to post the other teams at the moment, will do so first thing tomorrow. We have till Thursday to vote.
     
    #9 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
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    RocketsRed:

    Udrih: 13.7/4.9/3.4/1.2 - .500/.357/.864 Def: 111
    Belinelli: 10.5/1.2/1.9/0.5 - .437/.414/.784 Def: 109
    Crawford: 14.2/3.2/1.7/0.8 - .421/.341/.854 Def: 111
    Pierce: 18.9/3.3/5.4/1.0 - .497/.374/.860 Def: 101
    Williams: 9.2/1.5/2.7/0.4 - .469/.423/.746 Def: 114
    Patterson: 6.3/0.7/3.8/0.3 - .558//.714 Def: 109
    Bogut: 12.8/2.6/11.1/0.7 - .495//.442 Def: 97
    Favors: 6.8/0.9/5.3/0.4 - .517//.595 Def: 108
     
    #10 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
  11. torque

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    Wish I was in this group. Greenhippos, give up man, your team is clearly the worst. You'd beat Efryll though.
     
    #11 torque, Aug 29, 2011
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    Holiday: 14.0/6.5/3.2/1.5 - .446/.365/.823 Def: 106
    Brewer: 6.2/1.7/3.2/1.3 - .480//.654 Def: 98
    Ellis: 24.1/5.6/3.5/2.1 - .451/.361/.789 Def: 112
    Marion: 12.5/1.4/6.9/0.9 - .520//.768 Def: 103
    Hickson: 13.8/0.7/8.7/0.6 - .458//.673 Def: 109
    Davis: 11.7/0.4/5.4/1.0 - .448//.736 Def: 100
    Frye: 12.7/1.0/6.7/0.6 - .432/.390/.832 Def: 109
    Thomas: 10.2/1.6/5.5/0.7 - .471/.787 Def: 102
     
    #12 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
  13. BleedRocketsRed

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    Hippos if you are going to post stats, please organize it better. Looks like a bunch of gibberish.

    Plus with all of them separated, it is hard to compare.
     
    #13 BleedRocketsRed, Aug 29, 2011
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    Average Defensive rankings of each team:

    Freeze: 107.125

    Greenhippos: 104.875

    RocketsRed: 107.5

    I guess here at Clutchfans we don't value defense.


    Total of each teams players PPG

    Freeze: 104.6

    Greenhippos: 105.2

    RocketsRed: 92.4


    I guess at the same time, we here at Clutchfans also don't value offense
     
    #14 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
  15. greenhippos

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    Oddly enough I go to bed and I'm losing by 4 votes, wake up and I'm down by 30. Lmao, I didn't know how pathetically sad it seems most Rockets fans are.
     
    #15 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
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    LOL hippos your front court is Channing Frye and JJ Hickson. That's turrrrrible. You can't pick and choose the stats you use either. You use Drtg then PPG? Most of your players were on crappy teams of course their PPG are inflated.
     
    #16 torque, Aug 29, 2011
  17. BleedRocketsRed

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    To be fair, average bla bla bla doesn't really mean anything. Especially when guys coming off your bench are starters in real life.

    Now if you were to adjust those average per minute stats and base it on expected minutes played, THEN it would mean something.

    You seriously think a team with Channing Frye/JJ Hickson would be stronger defensively than teams boasting Andrew Bogut or JaVale McGee?
     
    #17 BleedRocketsRed, Aug 29, 2011
  18. BleedRocketsRed

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    And why in the world would you bench Ellis? He is your go-to-guy.
     
    #18 BleedRocketsRed, Aug 29, 2011
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    I'm going to be honest with you there, that's EXACTLY what I was doing on the draft thread (posting numbers on a 36 min basis) and they only made me look so much better. I'll go through the effort of doing so on here, but the defensive and offensive numbers will not change. I also fail to see how one person from each of their team of 8 players makes up for the fact that every other position I'm better defensively.
     
    #19 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
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    I have a player with a 98 rating, and 100 rating. Only one other player out of the other 22 has one lower. Just look at their averages, it's not even close. My team was drafted on strict defense, with Ellis thrown in for scoring. And my team is worlds better. The numbers don't lie.
     
    #20 greenhippos, Aug 29, 2011
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