I think Nene will be available at the trade deadline

[Rockets4279]

Dude Nene/Scola/Hill is a good rotation and if Yao resigns and returns Yao/Scola/Nene our international front-court. Nene will be a difference maker. Why i think he'll be just fine is, ball-movement and player movement. This team really don't dominate the ball like Anthony does. So add his mobility/athleticism he's going to get a lot of dunks.

[valorita]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=2bdwjdd

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=2emsao3


Nene/Miller
Scola/Hayes/PatPat
Battier/T Wil
Martin/Lee
Lowry/Brooks/Ish

[BimaThug]

Originally Posted by Rashmon I was surprised to realize that Nene's only 28. Seems like he has been around forever.

I believe Nene was only 19 years old when he came out of Brazil.

[jopatmc]

I have this funny feeling that Morey is deeply involved in this push by the Nets to acquire Melo and add other championship quality players to play with him and Lopez. Scola makes too much sense in NJ playing alongside those two with Lopez having his back defensively. I would not be one bit surprised if Scola and Brooks have been made available to help NJ get Melo and bring Nene and somebody else in here. Nene does not make sense in NJ with Lopez, unless NJ is sending out Lopez along with Favors and taking back Melo and Nene. But that is essentially a sideways move. If NJ could park Scola next to Melo and Lopez, that is the start of something big.

Morey is most likely playing this deal with the Nets to increase his leverage to get what he wants out of the Knicks for a draft pick back.

[BimaThug]

Originally Posted by jopatmc I have this funny feeling that Morey is deeply involved in this push by the Nets to acquire Melo and add other championship quality players to play with him and Lopez. Scola makes too much sense in NJ playing alongside those two with Lopez having his back defensively. I would not be one bit surprised if Scola and Brooks have been made available to help NJ get Melo and bring Nene and somebody else in here. Nene does not make sense in NJ with Lopez, unless NJ is sending out Lopez along with Favors and taking back Melo and Nene. But that is essentially a sideways move. If NJ could park Scola next to Melo and Lopez, that is the start of something big. Morey is most likely playing this deal with the Nets to increase his leverage to get what he wants out of the Knicks for a draft pick back.

Don't discount the impact that the DPE could have on the Rockets' involvement as part of a "complicated four-team trade," various iterations of which the Nets and Nuggets are discussing. Either that or the Ariza trade exception.

Honestly, Morey's options are virtually limitless with his collection of assets. If only he could get another team or a star free agent to agree to trade a star/sign with the team!

[jopatmc]

Originally Posted by BimaThug Don't discount the impact that the DPE could have on the Rockets' involvement as part of a "complicated four-team trade," various iterations of which the Nets and Nuggets are discussing. Either that or the Ariza trade exception. Honestly, Morey's options are virtually limitless with his collection of assets. If only he could get another team or a star free agent to agree to trade a star/sign with the team!

Agree on all counts. But incremental upgrades are incremental upgrades. The way I see it: The East is going to become a ferocious dogfight for years to come with the Knicks, Nets, Bulls, and Magic all trying to match up with Miami. Morey is using this to play each of these teams one at a time so they can get their improvement but we continue to building upwards. Didn't include Boston here as their window is now and will probably only be open another year or two at most before they are run over by Miami and Chicago for sure. I believe Morey has played this 9 ways to Sunday as has been demonstrated by the TWill move with the Nets and prior to that the McGrady move with the Kings. Morey has played the Knicks and is still playing them for maximum value back for his assets. Now, I believe he has broadened the game to include the Nets. Wonder what will happen if Howard decides he's leaving Orlando down the line? Chris Paul???? Don't really see him coming here. I think Paul is going to fly off to wherever Melo goes. Even more shift East. That leaves Morey hanging out in the West building a dynamite team. For certain, some superstar in the West is going to eventually see the writing on the wall, and will want to come here for the opportunity to go to the Finals and compete multiple times...........against the last man standing over there after they hack and slash each other to pieces throughout the playoffs. DWill or somebody of that ilk is going to shake loose from their team and they are going to land here.

Now, just imagine if Yao got healthy a year from now.

We still got it going on. Big time.

[Rockets4279]

Originally Posted by jopatmc I have this funny feeling that Morey is deeply involved in this push by the Nets to acquire Melo and add other championship quality players to play with him and Lopez. Scola makes too much sense in NJ playing alongside those two with Lopez having his back defensively. I would not be one bit surprised if Scola and Brooks have been made available to help NJ get Melo and bring Nene and somebody else in here. Nene does not make sense in NJ with Lopez, unless NJ is sending out Lopez along with Favors and taking back Melo and Nene. But that is essentially a sideways move. If NJ could park Scola next to Melo and Lopez, that is the start of something big. Morey is most likely playing this deal with the Nets to increase his leverage to get what he wants out of the Knicks for a draft pick back.

I had this hunch feeling too kinda funny somebody beat me to it. What if Favors ends up in Houston and Scola gets moved out? Basically we get Favors and Billups/Morrow

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=22wvuqc

Basically our pick goes to Denver along with both of NJ's picks since they don't want to take on any salary.

[Txang99]

I'd love to have Nene here, but only if we don't have to give up Hill to get him. A Hill/Nene front court would be beastly for the next few years.

[jopatmc]

Originally Posted by Rockets4279 I had this hunch feeling too kinda funny somebody beat me to it. What if Favors ends up in Houston and Scola gets moved out? Basically we get Favors and Billups/Morrow http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=22wvuqc Basically our pick goes to Denver along with both of NJ's picks since they don't want to take on any salary.

No, Favors ain't coming here. He's the biggest reason why Denver does a deal sending Melo to NJ, to get him back, along with picks and other young talent....possibly Hill......and dumping another salary or two so they can rebuild in a year or two with young talent, and a load of draft picks.

[anchel]

But he averages only 7 rebounds... I don't know.

[jopatmc]

Originally Posted by Txang99 I'd love to have Nene here, but only if we don't have to give up Hill to get him. A Hill/Nene front court would be beastly for the next few years.

A Nene/Patterson frontcourt would be so much better. Not to mention adding Yao and possibly other pieces.

[Rockets4279]

Boy something big can happen any day now. NJ looks like they are ready. Denver sounds like they are ready to 'blow it up' to have a fire sale. If Morey gets involved he's loaded to wheel and deal. He might be able to get an asset to help this team.

[asmith8266]

Jeffries/Patterson/Bud and a pick?

[HeyDude]

Originally Posted by Deckard Man, I don't know. Nene is not a shot blocker (he's averaging around what Scola's averaging this season), not a great rebounder (Scola is much better), decent at stealing the ball, but Luis is ballpark with him this season, actually has slightly lower assist numbers this season than Luis, essentially a wash there, as with steals and blocks. Isn't remotely the scorer Scola is. That comparison is with Nene playing 2 minutes less a game this year, not much of a difference. What he does bring is a several inch taller Chuck Hayes to the Rockets, without the rebounding. Excellent defense. What's that worth? $12 million a season??

Depends. If he is a Scola with excellent defense, then he may be worth it....I guess it depends on what we give up, etc. I would not take additional contracts just for him though. He has a lot of mileage on that 28 year old body, has not exactly been the man of steel health wise, and makes 12 mil a year.

That said, what would I give up for him? Maybe Scola straight up? We sacrifice some offense for defense, but may be worth it? Or maybe a Brooks + Jeffries (not straight to Denver but maybe in a 3 way)? Or if we get the DPE, that would work but we would be taking back a looot of salary.

Its a tough one. I would be more interested in Nene if we are to pull another trade to make us a better contender. if the Nash rumors are true, then Nash and Nene are 2 players that ideally have not be targeted by fans here much, as they're older, less flashier than the Bosh / Melo types. But they may just be as effective in making us a dark horse contender short term, as they would not cost us as much (assets or cash wise), and have shorter contracts.

[AggieRocketsFan]

Nene is leading the league in TS% this year and has done so for the past two years.

2010-11 NBA Nene Hilario .6868 DEN
2009-10 NBA Nene Hilario .6305 DEN
2008-09 NBA Nene Hilario .6447 DEN

I'm sure he is high on Morey's priority list.

[Liberon]

Me like Beast from Brazil. Please Nene... Pretty Please....

[Rockets4279]

I would not mind Billups on this team. The reason is i want Brooks off the bench as a spark-plug. Billups can shore up a weakness in our system at that position. He gives us a post game too something unique. And he can match up to Kidd, Williams the bigger point-guards better. I think he's got another 3-4 years in the tank. And he can create his own shot. We desprately need that. Go small-ball bring in Brooks/Lowry combo and slide Lee to the three spot. Then bump Budinger out of the rotation. If we need more size we can go Lowry/Williams or Brooks/Williams manning the 1/2 spot.

[DieHard Rocket]

Originally Posted by Deckard Man, I don't know. Nene is not a shot blocker (he's averaging around what Scola's averaging this season), not a great rebounder (Scola is much better), decent at stealing the ball, but Luis is ballpark with him this season, actually has slightly lower assist numbers this season than Luis, essentially a wash there, as with steals and blocks. Isn't remotely the scorer Scola is. That comparison is with Nene playing 2 minutes less a game this year, not much of a difference. What he does bring is a several inch taller Chuck Hayes to the Rockets, without the rebounding. Excellent defense. What's that worth? $12 million a season??

The idea is certainly intriguing and if he can be acquired as mainly a salary dump for the Nuggets, we'd be crazy not to do it. He's not going to make us "instant title contenders", though.

But I would say, yes, his defense and offensive efficiency is worth $12 million a season, considering how poor we are defensively (even though most of it is due to the backcourt and our style of play).

[asmith8266]

Originally Posted by Rockets4279 I would not mind Billups on this team. The reason is i want Brooks off the bench as a spark-plug. Billups can shore up a weakness in our system at that position. He gives us a post game too something unique. And he can match up to Kidd, Williams the bigger point-guards better. I think he's got another 3-4 years in the tank. And he can create his own shot. We desprately need that. Go small-ball bring in Brooks/Lowry combo and slide Lee to the three spot. Then bump Budinger out of the rotation. If we need more size we can go Lowry/Williams or Brooks/Williams manning the 1/2 spot.

Billups is having one of his worse seasons in recent memory. Do not want. He's in steep decline.

[Rockets4279]

Originally Posted by asmith8266 Billups is having one of his worse seasons in recent memory. Do not want. He's in steep decline.

I just noticed that NM. I think it has to do with injury.