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Did playing in China during the offseasons cause Yao's injury?
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devin23 is offline Old 09-29-2010, 08:38 PM   #1
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Do you guys think Yao's injury was due to wear and tear from all those non-resting years he had? I think it has to do with minutes personally. Yao was fine playing 32 minutes or less. He played almost all games during the first few seasons where his minutes didn't exceed 32.8. Those years he still played with the CBA.
 
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Is this a rhetorical question?

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You're like 2 yrs late. And i dont believe he played in the CBA while he was a Rocket.
 
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And in other news, water is wet and fire is hot.

IIRC he did play in the CBA. He bought his former team, the Shanghai Sharks, after he became a millionaire.
 
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Seriously, STOP CREATING these non sense threads again! NO! Yaos injury was not caused by playing in the offseason!

Forgive me for sounding agitated, I am sick and tired of people blaming the CBA or the Chinese National Team for Yaos injuries.

Yao plays what a total of less than 30 games for China in the past 7 years and yet you guys just blame China.

As an Australian that lived in China for 2 years I understood that there is such a cultural misunderstanding between the east and the west, as a long time Yao fan, in the beginning, I was also angry at the CBA for forcing Yao to play every summer.

But heres the deal: YAO wants to PLAY HIMSELF!

There is nothing more important than representing your country as an athlete, I understand he should play in the meaninigless games, however those games are aimed for him to gel with the team for the bigger competition such as World Champs and the Olympics.

You have to understand, although Yao is under contract with the Rockets, but he is also a national figure for China, his services mean more than just dribbling the ball on the court.

We should all be happy that China has not asked Yao to stop playing for the Rockets and just focus on the National Team, yes as far fetched as this sounds, this is possible! Dont bring human rights stuff into this, because it has nothing to do with it, representing your country is the ultimate prize and pride for a Chinese athlete.

China has been very lenient with Yao, and for him not to play in the 2012 London Olympics will not just be a betrayal of his motherland, but also his people. Go to China and have a look yourself, understand its culture before you make your judgements.

With power comes with great responsibilities, Yao also belongs to the people of China, this cultural misunderstanding is seriously whats causing so many problems in todays world!

Forgive my bluntness again.

Greetings from Australia!
 
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And in other news, water is wet and fire is hot.

IIRC he did play in the CBA. He bought his former team, the Shanghai Sharks, after he became a millionaire.

He wasn't talking about before he came to the Rockets. :D

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Seriously, STOP CREATING these non sense threads again! NO! Yaos injury was not caused by playing in the offseason!

Forgive me for sounding agitated, I am sick and tired of people blaming the CBA or the Chinese National Team for Yaos injuries.

Yao plays what a total of less than 30 games for China in the past 7 years and yet you guys just blame China.

As an Australian that lived in China for 2 years I understood that there is such a cultural misunderstanding between the east and the west, as a long time Yao fan, in the beginning, I was also angry at the CBA for forcing Yao to play every summer.

But heres the deal: YAO wants to PLAY HIMSELF!

There is nothing more important than representing your country as an athlete, I understand he should play in the meaninigless games, however those games are aimed for him to gel with the team for the bigger competition such as World Champs and the Olympics.

You have to understand, although Yao is under contract with the Rockets, but he is also a national figure for China, his services mean more than just dribbling the ball on the court.

We should all be happy that China has not asked Yao to stop playing for the Rockets and just focus on the National Team, yes as far fetched as this sounds, this is possible! Dont bring human rights stuff into this, because it has nothing to do with it, representing your country is the ultimate prize and pride for a Chinese athlete.

China has been very lenient with Yao, and for him not to play in the 2012 London Olympics will not just be a betrayal of his motherland, but also his people. Go to China and have a look yourself, understand its culture before you make your judgements.

With power comes with great responsibilities, Yao also belongs to the people of China, this cultural misunderstanding is seriously whats causing so many problems in todays world!

Forgive my bluntness again.

Greetings from Australia!
You are a little strong in your words about Yao not playing in 2012 Olympics. It doesn't seem like Yao is interested in playing in 2012. He basically said China was killing the goose that laid the golden egg.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5413279
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"We are paying for what we didn't do leading up to 2008. We skipped the development of a reserve team and the CBA league and focused only on the national team and the Olympics. It's like you are killing the goose that lays the golden egg," he said. "I'm 30. As an athlete, I am not the future of China basketball anymore."

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Morey keeps saying that Patterson was ranked 6th on their draft board. If that is the case, he either got real lazy and didn't do a lot of scouting or he got one F'd up draft board.

(edit)...my top 10 ranking
(edit)...Patterson either 12 or 13.
(edit)...6. Greg Monroe 7. Al-Farouq Aminu 8. Paul George 9. Cole Aldrich 10. James Anderson
 
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Since Yao came to the NBA,

Yao has played a total of 481 + playoff games

Yao has played a total of 41 games for China

Shouldnt China blame Houston for the injuries? Yes you can bring in in the financial contract reason, if China never allowed Yao to goto the Rockets, where would we be now? As a Rockets fan, we should seek to understand rather criticise Yao and China...

Who is more significant (i.e. ability to impact more lives)?

Yao the Rocket or Yao the Chinese team leader, Chinese symbol?

We should learn a lesson or two about the collectivist attitude of the far East...
 
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Since Yao came to the NBA,

Yao has played a total of 481 + playoff games

Yao has played a total of 41 games for China

Shouldnt China blame Houston for the injuries? Yes you can bring in in the financial contract reason, if China never allowed Yao to goto the Rockets, where would we be now? As a Rockets fan, we should seek to understand rather criticise Yao and China...

Who is more significant (i.e. ability to impact more lives)?

Yao the Rocket or Yao the Chinese team leader, Chinese symbol?

We should learn a lesson or two about the collectivist attitude of the far East...
Why should China blame Houston? Is China the one paying Yao Ming's salary? No, China is the one mooching off on Yao Ming while Yao Ming is in the employ of the Houston Rockets.

Yao is obligated to play all those games for Houston because Houston is paying him 20M a year. These injuries Yao Ming has had over the years were worsened because Yao doesn't get any rest in the offseason, his body is damaged every year and doesn't have any time to recover.

And the collectivist attitude of the east as you call is dead. China has become a capitalist nation and has abandoned that Maoist/socialist way of governing things you refer to.
 
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Since Yao came to the NBA,

Yao has played a total of 481 + playoff games

Yao has played a total of 41 games for China

Shouldnt China blame Houston for the injuries? Yes you can bring in in the financial contract reason, if China never allowed Yao to goto the Rockets, where would we be now? As a Rockets fan, we should seek to understand rather criticise Yao and China...

Who is more significant (i.e. ability to impact more lives)?

Yao the Rocket or Yao the Chinese team leader, Chinese symbol?

We should learn a lesson or two about the collectivist attitude of the far East...
You have got to be kidding me.

When he should have been resting ...... working out, but basically chillin like most NBA players..... Yao was fulfilling his obligations/desires/"training" or whatever you you want to call it .... You can bet your ass all this and more was built into his contract too!

I realize how important Yao coming to the NBA was on many levels. He's a special guy and a true ambassador.

And while this is a wonderful story in so many ways I must confess to be rather disgusted by the Chinese governments handling of this situation. Yes, Yao was to be more than a person and is. He's a symbol, in many ways. Unfortunately one of them is similiar to Sam Bowie et. al...


And don't come in here and give us a lecture on how we should live. This alone is too much to get into here though. If you want to go to D&D, I'll meet you there.

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Give the man a break (no pun intended).

Seriously though, stuff happens. Lot's of pressure on Yao.

Just glad he's back.
 
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Scola plays for his country every single year he can, he turns out to be fine doesn't he?

stop hating China pls
 
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We should learn a lesson or two about the collectivist attitude of the far East...
Yes there is much to learn.



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It's been a problem since he came to the Rockets. We knew it then and we know it know. It's like asking if Yao was soft as a tissue when he first came to the Rockets.

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I heard it's because of global warming, actually.

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It's been a problem since he came to the Rockets. We knew it then and we know it know. It's like asking if Yao was soft as a tissue when he first came to the Rockets.
Absolutely correct.

I remember this very discussion before he was even drafted. We talked about how so few players had long careers at his size....how him playing games for China in the offseason would likely mean little rest for his body, which would only exacerbate the problem.

None of this is unexpected. It's why I'm amazed when people here are surprised about gloomy health forecasts and limited minutes for the man. It's old news.
 
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technically, he is on loan to us so China would ask if playing here was the cause of his injuries.

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