[Movie] Superman Reboot - Page 3

Lynus302 · 10-06-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rockets934life

Darkseid would be a dream come true but also will be VERY hard to pull off. If Nolan keeps the same vision of using realistic(NON-CGI) villains, like TDK, then Zod makes PERFECT sense as would Brainiac, Metallo and Luthor, they would all be making appearances in these movies. Bizzaro has an outside shot while guys like Eradicator, Darkseid and Doomsday have ZERO shot IMO.

Some allowances have to be made from the get-go re: what is considered "realistic" because Superman is an alien himself, so I don't see why Darkseid couldn't be done in the same vein. They could use a really big guy as the physical actor with someone else as the voice. It worked fine for David Prowse and James Earl Jones as Darth Vader.

Or am I missing something else?

rockets934life · 10-06-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynus302

Some allowances have to be made from the get-go re: what is considered "realistic" because Superman is an alien himself, so I don't see why Darkseid couldn't be done in the same vein. They could use a really big guy as the physical actor with someone else as the voice. It worked fine for David Prowse and James Earl Jones as Darth Vader.

Or am I missing something else?

Well the thing isn't so much that it can't be done but the powers that be. We already know Nolan does not like to use CGI and Darkseid would have to be CGI or atleast most of him, kind of like what Ryan Reynolds will have to do with the GL suit. If I understand correctly, Nolan and his brother will be focusing more on the Clark Kent side of Superman rather then Kal-El so there is the first hint that Nolan is going for realism within Supes confines.

You could do Darkseid as a REALLY big size persona but then you risk it looking a bit odd and cartoonish which I am sure won't be the goal of these movies. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing I'd rather see then the big guy but just do not see it from Nolan's history and even Snyder's history with 300 and Watchman.

rockets934life · 10-06-2010, 12:46 AM

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So with all of that said, what could Goyer’s Superman pitch possibly be?

New York Magazine’s Vulture has learned that the story will follow Clark Kent, a journalist traveling the world “trying to decide if he should, in fact, even become Superman.” Sounds like an interesting take on the material, right?

And it certainly speaks to some of Goyer’s previously spoken concerns over the character. But it does sound like another dramaticly centered character storyline, and the main criticism of Bryan Singer’s Superman Returns was that it didn’t have enough action. And why hire Zack Snyder if it isn’t going to be the complete opposite of Singer’s Superman, really? Who kows, that logline might just be the starting point.

The pitch isn’t too far off from a twelve-issue comic book limited series called Superman: Birthright DC Comics released in 2003 and 2004. Written by Mark Waid and drawn by Leinil Francis Yu, the story attempted to retell the Superman origin story for the 21st century. In the story. Clark Kent is a freelance reporter in his early twenties, traveling the world to cover news stories. While covering an ethnic conflict between the fictional Ghuri and Turaaba clans in West Africa, he is forced to use his super powers to attain a fleeing assassin. This results in Kent returning to Smallville to learn more about his alien heritage and make the decision to become Superman.

Vulture also reports some troubling news: the reason Warner Bros. supposedly picked Snyder for Man of Steel is that David Goyer’s script is a bit of a mess as it was rushed, and Snyder is looked at a man who can get the movie completed for 2012. You see, the studio doesn’t have time to go through extensive rewrites as they need to get a new Superman movie in production by 2011 or they’ll lose the rights to make said film.

Warner Bros. needs someone who won’t spend months or even years trying to get it just right (i.e. Aronofsky), because time is the one thing they don’t have … We’re told that Snyder was not really Warner’s first choice to direct Superman, but that a director needed to be hired imminently. Privately, even Snyder has confided to agency sources that the current Superman script needs work, but clearly Warner Bros. believes he can get it done faster than Aronofsky.

Aronofsky is great at what he does, but most of his projects have had considerable development time. And Snyder can work fast on his feet, and turn in a glossy product. But if this report is true, this doesn’t sound good for the upcoming film. You can’t rush greatness.

Zack Snyder’s Superman will target a holiday 2012 release.

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/10/05/...tory-revealed/

rockets934life · 12-01-2010, 04:04 PM

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Confirmed: Hans Zimmer Is Scoring Zack Snyder's SUPERMAN! Promises A "Reinvention"!

You knew this was coming, but now it's official: Zack Snyder's SUPERMAN will not be carrying over John Williams's iconic main theme, first heard in Richard Donner's 1978 film and resurrected for Bryan Singer's 2005 continuation. Snyder has instead enlisted Hans Zimmer to score his top-down reinvention of the DC Comics superhero.

Zimmer let the cat out of the bag at a DVD release party for INCEPTION this week, and discussed the challenge of following up Williams's unforgettable score with NBC San Diego's Scott Huver...

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47625?_r=true

Lynus302 · 12-02-2010, 12:44 AM

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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47625?_r=true

Pfft. The only thing that didn't need to be changed from Superman Returns is the score.

AstroRocket · 12-02-2010, 01:32 AM

Good that they're making progress (hope it's not too rushed). Superman has about 30 years of development in comic and animated continuities just begging to be brought the big screen (especially the reinventions of Luthor/Metallo/Braniac, and the ascension of Darkseid). Here's hoping we get to see it.

Though I have to admit I'm not too enthused to see Zod. he's a boring character to me.

Apps · 12-02-2010, 03:03 AM

Great to hear that Zod is going to be in this! I love Superman, though I know he kind of gets a bum rap for being too invincible and whatnot.

Kneel before Zod.

Batman Jones · 12-02-2010, 03:44 AM

The best stuff about Superman is the fun stuff, the whimsical stuff, the stuff that's never in the movies. Mr. Mxylptlk. Toyman. Terra-Man. Bizarro. Even Parasite.

I'd like a Bizarro movie better than anything. Throw in a wicked version of Mxylptlk - more anarchist than prankster and it might be the most fun superhero movie of all time.

Couldn't care less about Luthor, Brainiac, Darkseid, Doomsday, Metallo, Vandal Savage or Zod (though he and Luthor are much more interesting than the rest). They are all generic bad guys compared to Superman's truly strange rogues.

rocketsjudoka · 12-02-2010, 09:09 AM

Maybe its just me but I really don't get a good feeling about this movie.

justtxyank · 12-02-2010, 09:24 AM

I have never liked a single live-action Superman movie, even the originals. Superman just doesn't translate to the big screen with real actors imo.

What I wish DC would do is continue their animated projects which have been awesome, but go full adult with them and get script writers to put together full length films that are even heavier. I wish Marvel would do this too.

Turning Age of Apocalypse into a dark cartoon on Spike or something would be awesome. Or a movie about the Mutant Massacre.

SUPER super heroes just work better as cartoons imo where their powers can be utilized.

Keyser Soze · 12-02-2010, 11:30 AM

Christopher Nolan has completely stepped off Superman. So, it's entirely up to Zack Snyder:

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NELn6tZgpGbvOT

Surfguy · 12-02-2010, 11:58 AM

I don't understand how they are rebooting this again. I thought the most recent movie did well at the box office? Now, they are going to get another guy to play Superman and do another reboot?

I just read on Wiki that it did $391,081,192 worldwide and that the Warner Bros. President (at the time) complained it should have done $500,000,000 worldwide. A new WB President comes in and says we don't think the film quite worked the way we wanted it to. There were also jabs about not enough action sequences in the film to satisfy younger audiences.

WB is a bunch of greedy bastards. They should point the finger at themselves for approving a film they apparently weren't fully on board with. I hope the reboot backfires on them. I won't pay to see it.

Superman has become a revolving door.

DonkeyMagic · 12-02-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfguy

I don't understand how they are rebooting this again. I thought the most recent movie did well at the box office? Now, they are going to get another guy to play Superman and do another reboot?

I just read on Wiki that it did $391,081,192 worldwide and that the Warner Bros. President (at the time) complained it should have done $500,000,000 worldwide. A new WB President comes in and says we don't think the film quite worked the way we wanted it to. There were also jabs about not enough action sequences in the film to satisfy younger audiences.

WB is a bunch of greedy bastards. They should point the finger at themselves for approving a film they apparently weren't fully on board with. I hope the reboot backfires on them. I won't pay to see it.

Superman has become a revolving door.

The last one was horrible. Even though it made a ton i still think it was considered a turd.

Lynus302 · 12-02-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfguy

I don't understand how they are rebooting this again. I thought the most recent movie did well at the box office? Now, they are going to get another guy to play Superman and do another reboot?

I just read on Wiki that it did $391,081,192 worldwide and that the Warner Bros. President (at the time) complained it should have done $500,000,000 worldwide. A new WB President comes in and says we don't think the film quite worked the way we wanted it to. There were also jabs about not enough action sequences in the film to satisfy younger audiences.

WB is a bunch of greedy bastards. They should point the finger at themselves for approving a film they apparently weren't fully on board with. I hope the reboot backfires on them. I won't pay to see it.

Superman has become a revolving door.

It would have made $500 million. If it didn't suck. All it had to be was marginally good, and it wasn't even close to that. Superman didn't even punch anyone in the whole movie.

Superman Returns just flat-out sucked. And it shouldn't have.

rockets934life · 12-02-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfguy

I don't understand how they are rebooting this again. I thought the most recent movie did well at the box office? Now, they are going to get another guy to play Superman and do another reboot?

I just read on Wiki that it did $391,081,192 worldwide and that the Warner Bros. President (at the time) complained it should have done $500,000,000 worldwide. A new WB President comes in and says we don't think the film quite worked the way we wanted it to. There were also jabs about not enough action sequences in the film to satisfy younger audiences.

WB is a bunch of greedy bastards. They should point the finger at themselves for approving a film they apparently weren't fully on board with. I hope the reboot backfires on them. I won't pay to see it.

Superman has become a revolving door.

It did okay but the movie itself had many flaws. Superman the brand made that money not the movie itself. The special effects were fantastic but the story left tons to be desired. The chemistry between Lois and Clark was not there and while Spacey was actually pretty good as Luthor, it felt like I was watching a crappier version of the 2nd half of Superman The Movie.

They needed new blood and a fresh start, pulling away from the Richard Donner version of Superman into a new image that could somewhat relate to today's audience. Routh was actually okay in it and I wouldn't mind seeing him again but doubt they want to be associated with any of the first 5 movies, thus the iconic score being changed.

Surfguy · 12-02-2010, 02:27 PM

A lot of stupid critics and people out there I guess. Rotten Tomatoes has a 74% critics liked it and 67% of regular people liked it.

I get your point. Yes, it wasn't all that great. But, apparently, a lot of people did like it.

I don't think Superman was necessarily miscast. I think everyone else around him was. But, I dunno.

It's hard to keep a franchise going if there is no continuity to the actors playing the characters imo. If the next one tanks, then Superman might as well just die and go away.

Lynus302 · 12-02-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Surfguy

I don't think Superman was necessarily miscast. I think everyone else around him was. But, I dunno.

I think he was too young for the part. I envision Superman around 30-32; 35 at the oldest. Routh himself did well enough, but he looked like a college kid to me. Spidey should be a young guy. Superman should be a man.

Raven · 12-02-2010, 03:53 PM

Just wait until one corporation acquires both the Marvel and DC license.

Batman &
Wolverine &
Neo
In the Matrix
Summer 2028
In HIDEF3DSMELLVISION
Ticket price is two punches on your entertainment ration card
Curfew by 11PM
Violators will be shot on sight

rockets934life · 12-02-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynus302

I think he was too young for the part. I envision Superman around 30-32; 35 at the oldest. Routh himself did well enough, but he looked like a college kid to me. Spidey should be a young guy. Superman should be a man.

rockets934life · 12-09-2010, 08:51 PM

This is what Bryan Singer's Man of Steel would have looked like...

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Zack Snyder is just months away before he goes into production of the Chris Nolan produced The Man of Steel, A.K.A. Superman Begins or Superman Rises or was it Superman Returns Again? But before Zack and Chris came aboard Bryan Singer did have a sequel planned for his Superman

Returns. So even though his final vision for his Superman Saga will never be seen we can tell you what a planned storyline was going to be.

It's actually a shame that fans have not yet seen the complete version of Superman Returns and one would hope that WB would one day release the complete film on Blu-Ray.

From larger sub-plots including Kal Penn's character Stanford manipulating Superman's return to Krypton, his arrival to Krypton and his return back to earth. That complete movie adds another 30 minutes plus to the film and for fanboys like me, we would watch it. Actually I did see that movie but that's for another article.

Some of our readers might not be up to speed on the bigger story of Superman Returns, so we will shed some light where we can.

So what did Bryan and his writers have in mind for the sequel? Let me be clear, Singer never had a chance to get his script completed, there was a couple different outlines that were done during the production of Superman Returns but the one we are going to talk about in this article was the one that most likely was going to get a full script treatment.

Superman: The Man of Steel

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman's child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

Now there are storyline threads that go back to Superman Returns, one is the on going plot of Superman's original reason of going back to Krypton. He has always wondered if he truly is the last Son of Krypton.

Remember new Krypton that Lex created with crystals he stole from the Fortress of Solitude and Kryptonite that Supes launched into to space that nearly killed him?

So new Krypton continues to grow in space and has become an almost perfect sphere. It is now the size of a small moon.

Besides giving Humans something to admire at night, Earth new satellite has also brought some unexpected attention from a galaxy far, far away.

A massive spaceship arrives Earth's orbit, Superman flys up to meet the spacecraft and we are introduced to our out of this world visitor.

Superman quickly finds out that our visitor is also a Kryptonian survivor who has been traveling the known galaxies and was able to detect Kryptonian technology thanks to our new green/black satellite that has started to orbit the Earth.

Superman finally has found a Kryptonian buddy and starts showing him around the planet, a planet full of problems, disease, famine, crime and nations at war with each other.

Our new Kryptonian friend asks Superman why, with all his power, is he not changing the world for the better. Why is he not getting rid of famine, disease and war? Of course fans know that Superman has always been told, or better said instructed, not to interfere with Earth's development.

Superman explains that he is not allowed to interfere but his Krypto buddy tells him that with their powers they are required to "interfere," Superman disagrees.

Krypto buddy decides to take charge and starts "interfering" from day one. One of the first things that he does is get involved in a political mess that is heating up between two third world nations.

War breaks out between these two nations but before any real battle breaks our Krypto buddy interferes and lays waste to these two Armies.

He declares to the world that he will not allow anymore wars and/or the destruction of our planet. He is declaring a "War Free" planet and for those who disagree he will have to deal with them.

The major nations of the planet applaud his actions and all agree to an immediate worldwide peace. In return he promises to share technology, fight hunger, famine and disease.

The population of the world rejoices and any small pockets of resistance is quickly squashed by Krypto buddy or even the world governments.

Superman has now become a pariah, the way the world sees it, he has been here for years and had kept technology that could have saved many of the worlds problems.

Superman starts getting a bit suspicious of Krypto buddy and decides to go talk to him. He goes to his spaceship and has a revelation. This massive ship is full of hundreds if not thousands of identical bodies aboard, yep, clones of Krypto buddy, in stasis.

So Superman digs a bit more inside the "computer" system, which is familiar to him since it's Kryptonian technology just like the Fortress of Solitude.

Superman finds out that Krypto buddy is actually an artificial intelligence from Krypton that has evolved since the destruction of their world.

He escaped Krypton just like Kal-El did and his real name is Brainiac. He has been going from planet to planet, taking their technology, helping these worlds reach a relative perfection and then he destroys them and moves on.

Superman also finds out that he was actually responsible for the destruction of Krypton and tries to warn the leaders of the world but is confronted by Braniac. A massive battle ensues and Superman is about to defeat his foe but right just before Brainiac downloads his conscience into one oh his other clones.

Superman realizes that he must destroy this massive ship along with all the clones aboard. After another massive battle he is able to disable the ship, destroy the clones and the new Braniac but right before the ship is destroyed the Braniac main frame does a local search for another body that he could download in to, it has to be Kryptonian, and he finds another one on Earth, Superman's kid
Jason White.

So Brainiac uses Kryptonian technology and beams/download itself into Jason's body and this causes causes him to age and grow into a full adult but with Brainiac in complete control.

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It's all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it's inhabitants will be doomed.

It's a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason's body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

There is a Christ like metaphor here. Superman has to sacrifice his own son to save humanity.

There are still plenty of holes left in this story, we were not privy to all the details but this is the bulk of the info we received.

http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com...0633&Itemid=71