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platy is offline Old 09-02-2010, 03:52 PM   #1
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God did not create Universe: Hawking



LONDON — God no longer has any place in theories on the creation of the Universe due to a series of developments in physics, British scientist Stephen Hawking said in extracts published Thursday from a new book.
In a hardening of the more accommodating position on religion that he took in his 1988 international best-seller "A Brief History of Time", Hawking said the Big Bang was merely the consequence of the law of gravity.
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist," he writes in "The Grand Design", which is being serialised by The Times newspaper.
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going," added the wheelchair-bound expert.
Hawking has achieved worldwide fame for his research, writing and television documentaries despite suffering since the age of 21 motor neurone disease that has left him disabled and dependent on a voice synthesiser.
In "A Brief History of Time", Hawking had suggested that the idea of God or a divine being was not necessarily incompatible with a scientific understanding of the Universe.
But in his latest work, Hawking cites the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting a star outside our own Solar System as a turning point against Isaac Newton's belief that the Universe could not have arisen out of chaos.
"That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions -- the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass -- far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings," he wrote.
Hawking argued earlier this year that mankind's only chance of long-term survival lies in colonising space, as humans drain Earth of resources and face a terrifying array of new threats.
He also warned in a recent television series that mankind should avoid contact with aliens at all costs, as the consequences could be devastating.
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Who created god?

Who created who created god?

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Might be an interesting read, actually. I've always declared myself an agnostic because I could never answer the question of what created the infinitely tiny/dense mass that expanded to form the universe, but if Hawking really has a plausible explanation for how that expanding mass came to be initially, I'm all ears.

But reading sucks, so I probably won't read it. Is there a Cliff's Notes?

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Who created god?
People

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Who created who created god?
Primordial soup

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What does science say about spirits?
 
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I've always thought, we are just puppets with someone pulling our strings and I just don't want to piss off the person pulling those strings.

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They are mostly comprised of ethyl alcohol.

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Who created god?

Who created who created god?
Robots.

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Why? The puppies were real.
 
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Does he have a better theory than his continuous boundary limits explanation of the Big Bang, and it's requirement for imaginary time, or is he going back to theories with no basis in reality?

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How does he know?
 
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I believe this more than "god created everything!" see that's what is great about science. We're always learning something new and it's never definite. Not like christianity or any other religion: God is always the answer!
 
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How does he know?
He talks with a freaking robot voice. Any other questions?

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Why are people so obsessed with the idea that there has to be a beginning and end to everything?

I believe time and space are infinite. There is no beginning and no end. Why is it so engraved in stone that EVERYTHING has a beginning? And that the only limits we draw are the ones that we can consciously observe when in truth there might be no limits at all.

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^ And that EVERYTHING has to have a creator!

I mean, really!?!?!
 
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Why are people so obsessed with the idea that there has to be a beginning and end to everything?

I believe time and space are infinite. There is no beginning and no end. Why is it so engraved in stone that EVERYTHING has a beginning? And that the only limits we draw are the ones that we can consciously observe when in truth there might be no limits at all.
Because our minds aren't capable of comprehending infinity.

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Because our minds aren't capable of comprehending infinity.
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