Time To Close Shop on Hating the Jazz

[Spacemoth]

There's a reason why all of us laugh when Utah reaches at the 9 pick to take Gordon Hayward, and why we laugh even more because the Pacers after them were pissed.

That tradition's not changing in Utah, nor is their tradition of dirty basketball as long as Sloan is the coach. Other teams like the Lakers, Mavs, and Spurs make wins out of talent. Utah makes it out of cheese.

[Salvy]

Originally Posted by CBrownFanClub I was looking at the new Utah Jazz jerseys. They are terrific. Old school. Bold move. Credit where credit is due. THey pulled that off. New Orleans Jazz, Pistol Pete Maravich brand. Yes. So, as the Rockets art department jauntily enters year 14 of what is shaping up as a 40 journey through the graphics desert, gleefully ignoring our rich history in favor of bland lifeless logos, colors and uniforms, the Jazz did something right. I was going to post in that thread, and say that we need to take a page from their book and seriously consider scrapping our immensely boring logo and colors. But also, part of me thought about whether it was worth starting some weird garbage with someone about giving Utah credit for anything. It got me thinking that we need to officially downgrade their status as objects of hate. Not because they are awesome. But because they are inconsequential. They're not a worthy nemisis. They're fine. Whatever. It's like having the Milwaukee Brewers as your enemy. Who cares? The Jazz beat us once and did not win a championship. We dusted them twice and did. We care so much - why, exactly? Because Karl Malone threw elbows? Because Stockton played dirty? Because they beat McGrady in the first round a few years? Most middle school basketball camps could beat Tracy McGrady in the first round. They are fine, whatever too. Their fans suck. I'll give you that. But as an organization, they're essentially harmless. They're a nuisance, nothing more. They have redeemed themselves on occasion. Larry Miller was fine. Jerry Sloan is a fine coach - he pulled whoever that guy was - Snyder? - for mouthing off to Van Gundy. That was totally cool. Malone hit on Kobe's wife in LA. That ruled. Miller let Fischer out of his contract. That was cool. They're fine. They're Whatever. The mavericks are a much better nemesis. Those guys are piss ants. The Jazz are fine. They're the Brewers. Nice uniforms. Yawn.

[JLOBABYDADDY]

If you don't hate the Jazz, you aint a real Rockets fan! Their very existence goes against everything we all know and love!

[Mcgrady4ever]

I think RIVALS are a part of the game.........................I don't know if u watch soccer but we are just like Man UTD and Arsenal, if u don't accept this, u'd better quit clutchfans.
By the way, are u a SPY???

[B-Bob]

Disagree with their relevance. They've got a nice little team this year in what's shaping up to be an uncertain western conference.

And, I hate them.

[REEKO_HTOWN]

You are here.

[DFW_Rockets_Fan]

Will only close shop to expand to a mall.

[Rashmon]

[Al Capone]

This is when we put our foot on their throats...

[K mf G]

who the kcuf are you to tell me who i can and can't hate

eff the jazz
always and forever

[Angkor Wat]

This is a joke right? Stop hating the Jazz because of their uniforms? HA HA HA.

[jo mama]

"come on guys, the germans have come a long way since they were nazis. its time to put the past behind us give hitler a little credit. i think it is time to officially downgrade his status as an object of hate. nazis suck. i'll give you that. but as an organization, they're essentially harmless. they're a nuisance, nothing more. they have redeemed themselves on occasion. goebbels was fine. hitler was a fine fuhrer - he pulled whoever that guy was - ernst rohm? - for getting it on with teenage boys. that was totally cool. anyway, we beat them in WWII so its time to let it go!"

YOU ARE A '99er MAN!!!!

[xkrycekx]

Originally Posted by meh I don't "hate" the Jazz, per se. But I'll never root for them as long as two things still exist. 1. Jerry Sloan(or rather his system) - I respect Sloan as a coach. He's very good at what he does, and he's successful. But I can't stand his methods. He teaches his players the flopping way, which has been going on for a long time, even in the days when flopping wasn't widely spread. The Jazz has always been one of the best theatrical teams when it comes to selling the foul. I just can't root for that. In addition, Sloan teaches his players how to foul a lot. Note that I say foul, not hard nosed defense. If you watched us under JVG, you'd see that one can play plenty of tough defense without fouling. But the Jazz doesn't do that. They foul... A LOT. I equate the Jazz method for fouling the same way George Karl had his Sonic teams play illegal D for entire games. They basically count on refs not calling the same stuff over and over. To me that's also a horrible way to play. 2. Their intimidating fans - I know there are plenty of city with douchbaggery fans. But none of them affect the game as much as Utah fans. Utah teams traditionally tend to have the worst home/road split in any given year. They get away with a lot at home that normal NBA teams never do. That is stupid. My dislike of the Jazz really doesn't have anything to do with them beating us in the playoffs, or that they've been successful. It only has to do with the way they play, which I find both aesthetically displeasing, and generally against my basketball morals. It's the type of stuff I can overlook if it's my own team, but not if I have no rooting interest in a particular team.

This. As long as Jerry Sloan is the coach, ending the hate is not an option. Fans will be fans, cant change that, but the coaching change will be the end of an era.

[JuanValdez]

I like the Jazz alright. Didn't like Malone or Boozer, but they're gone. I respect the pasty-faced gangster, Deron Williams, and Jerry Sloan. I've never really been on board with this unhealthy obsession with the Jazz.

[CBrownFanClub]

Originally Posted by jo mama "come on guys, the germans have come a long way since they were nazis. its time to put the past behind us give hitler a little credit. i think it is time to officially downgrade his status as an object of hate. nazis suck. i'll give you that. but as an organization, they're essentially harmless. they're a nuisance, nothing more. they have redeemed themselves on occasion. goebbels was fine. hitler was a fine fuhrer - he pulled whoever that guy was - ernst rohm? - for getting it on with teenage boys. that was totally cool. anyway, we beat them in WWII so its time to let it go!" YOU ARE A '99er MAN!!!!

Really? We're comparing a basketball team to a man who exterminated millions of men women and children?

This, friends, would sort of be my point. I don't get the emotion or the logic behind even more reasonable Jazz hating than Jo Mamas.

They've never won a ring. They're not going to anytime soon. They don't even hate us back. Who cares?

PS: You still hate Germans?

[Steve_Francis_rules]

Originally Posted by YaoTheMan agree with OP on every word. plus jazz fans don't care about the rockets as much as rockets fans care about the Jazz.

Maybe that's because the Rockets don't compile a roster full of dirty cheaters (that always get away with it!) year after year, generation after generation.

There's no reason to hate the Rockets once they're not getting in the way of your team winning a championship, something we haven't done to anyone in a long time.

[cson]

Hey CBrown:

[jo mama]

Originally Posted by CBrownFanClub PS: You still hate Germans?

they shot my grandpa in the gut when he was trying to cross the rhine in march of '45 - is robert horry supposed to forgive karl malone for kicking him in the nutz?



again, you are a '99er so respect for that, but you should know better.

[psingh34]

Originally Posted by YaoTheMan agree with OP on every word. plus jazz fans don't care about the rockets as much as rockets fans care about the Jazz. it's kinda weird to see people just pick an enemy and keep hating on it. To me that only shows fear and insecurity for some reason. I support the rockets because of Yao. I still just don't see why hating Jazz matters after all these years.

The difference .. u support the rockets bc of a player so if he goes so will ur support ... we are rocket Fans who are happy and sad with them and will love them no matter who plays for them... we have more passion for them and thus more hate for others .. as long as utah has their annoying fans .. we will have hate .. also dont forget malone and stockton may have left but sloan is still there

[DonkeyMagic]

BURN HIM!