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Obama's Politics of Corruption

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jul 1, 2010.

  1. thumbs

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    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4266761/race-in-play-in-new-black-panther-case

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4267152/megyn-kelly-interviews-doj-whistleblower

    http://video.foxnews.com/#/v/4267253/civil-rights-attorney-on-accusations-vs-doj/?playlist_id=87937


    While Blago is putting nails in the administration's coffin, it is the former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy and a noted voting rights advocate who will lower them into the ground.

    Bartle Bull told Megyn Kelly on Fox News, in regard to the Department of Justice who resigned in the wake of the legal bombshell dropped when the DOJ charged charges against the Black Panthers accused of voter intimidation, said the Obama administration had disgraced itself. Bull, a direct witness to the event, said the Black Panthers even tried to intimidate in the courtroom. Wow, I can hardly wait to read the hard copy on all this.

    In the interim, Obama's incompetence is showing on all fronts:

    1) Oil spill inaction
    2) Economy & jobs
    3) Afghanistan war
    4) Civil rights issue cited above
    5) Testimony from the Blago trial
    6) G-20 embarrassment
    7) Immigration

    And those are just off the top of my head. Wow. Wow. Wow. Toss on Gore's troubles (unrelated but "environmental") and the administration is in serious trouble. Let the equivocating andd rationalizations begin!
     
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  2. mc mark

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    It must really suck to be a brainless tea partier --

    Presidential Scholars: Obama Is Our 15th Best President -- Bush Is In The Bottom Five

    Where do presidential scholars rank Barack Obama and George W. Bush among their fellow U.S. presidents?

    The answer may not surprise you: Obama comes in at number 15. Bush is 39th.

    For the fifth time in a row, the 238 presidential scholars who participated in the Siena poll ranked Franklin D. Roosevelt as the number one president overall, with Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson rounding out the top five.

    The poll also asks respondents to rank the presidents according to a few personality traits: "imagination, integrity, intelligence, luck, background, and being willing to take risks."

    The responds ranked President Obama sixth for imagination, seventh for communication ability and eighth for intelligence. His history-making personal background ranked only 32nd (due to that elusive birth certificate, no doubt), leaving him in the 15th spot overall.

    President Bush, who ranked number 23 overall in 2002, now finds himself 39th, putting him, for the first time ever, among the five worst presidents in American history. He's ranked 40th for imagination, 42nd for communication ability, and 42nd for intelligence. His own background is ranked 36th.

    Bush joins such presidential luminaries Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren G. Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five, with Johnson taking the honor for worst president ever.

    Full listings are here (.pdf).
     
  3. rhadamanthus

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    I hope he enjoys that ranking while he can. By the end of his term I suspect he will be ranked somewhere just below Jimmy Carter, who, though naive and incompetent, was at least honest.
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    Will any of the 5 be included in Texas textbooks come 2011?
     
  6. dbigfeet

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    I dont know. I would say Gearge Washington, but he was a radical revolutionary.
     
  7. thumbs

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    As usual, rhad, I see you are asleep at the switch. :grin:
     
  8. BigBenito

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    The Gore issue is definitly going to be Obama's Watergate.
     
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    As I said, it is unrelated. However, I see the Gore issue negatively impacting Obama's initative for cap and tax.
     
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    So Obama is a leader of the Black Panther party? I'm not sure where the connection is. Could you explain?

    also....WTF, they have a rank for "luck"? :confused:
     
  11. Ottomaton

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    I suppose you still think the Wasilla Hillbilly will one day be the darn-tootinist president we've ever seen (you betcha!), right thumbs?

    Bush is more Warren G. Harding than Andrew Jackson. Jackson was basically a vengeful psychopath, while Harding lost the White House china in a poker match. Though at least Harding had enough sense to understand that he was in over his head.
     
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    For what? Refusing to treat the South like an occupied territory?

    I hate these rankings: A President who segregated the Federal government, imprisoned 100,000 political opponents, and helped set the world on a path to World War 2 ranks 8th. If they called it "most important President" it would be different. But they rank evil men towards the top of the "Greatest Presidents" list.
     
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    Harding gets a bit of a bad rap. He got us out of our deepest Depression in about a year. If he had been President instead of Hoover in 1929, the Great Depression would have been the Pretty Bad Depression.

    He was corrupt as hell, but so was Jackson, and we still consider him great.
     
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    The Radical Republicans would have treated the South the same way Europeans treated their African colonies, had Johnson not stopped them. Johnson's Reconstruction wasn't exactly the favorite of ex-Confederates, but it wasn't that of an emperor, either.
     
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    what did they deserve, they tried to break up the union.
     
  17. SamFisher

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    "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."
     
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    Fair and balanced. =/
     
  19. pgabriel

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    this is why you ron paul limited gov't guys are treated as quacks, you're still defending the confederacy
     
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    That's a hard question to answer. The Confederate leaders probably "deserved" to be punished for treason. The average Confederate draftee or black soldier who volunteered for the promise of his freedom didn't deserve any punishment. Then there are large gray areas in between. I definitely don't think the Radical Republicans would have made it better, and I pretty sure Lincoln would agree with me.
     

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