Gulf Oil Spill Solutions

thumbs · 09:40 PM

I'm sitting here right now watching Huckabee on Fox News. There is no reference to it yet but when it goes to Youtube I'll post it, but I think it repeats at 7 p.m. Sunday.

Huckabee is featuring people with ocean and shoreline clean-up solutions to the oil spill that BP and Obama have ignored so far. Huckabee is right in saying that America is a "can do" nation in contrast to Obama's "can't do" philosophy. Personally, I'm sick of Obama blaming everything on everybody else rather than taking the bull by the horns and leading, but that's a harangue for another day. Right now I'm very intrigued by the potential solutions. If you see them, I'd love your comments on these solutions.

pouhe · 06-12-2010, 08:00 PM

Are we talking about how to stop the current leak, or long term changes that would allow us to avoid these types of accidents in the future? Is there a particular reason you feel the guests on Huckabee have more insights and ideas than BP or the administration? Have the two latter groups not presented any ideas at all, or just ones that you feel are not adequate?

R0ckets03 · 06-12-2010, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

I'm sitting here right now watching Huckabee on Fox News

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pouhe

Are we talking about how to stop the current leak, or long term changes that would allow us to avoid these types of accidents in the future? Is there a particular reason you feel the guests on Huckabee have more insights and ideas than BP or the administration? Have the two latter groups not presented any ideas at all, or just ones that you feel are not adequate?

Cleanup solutions were being discussed.

Azadre · 06-12-2010, 08:23 PM

If there was a solution to the oil leak, it would have been implemented already. To consider otherwise is either ignorance or malice.

Invisible Fan · 06-12-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Azadre

If there was a solution to the oil leak, it would have been implemented already. To consider otherwise is either ignorance or malice.

Dat cuz O-O-Obama dunt want to help them!

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Azadre

If there was a solution to the oil leak, it would have been implemented already. To consider otherwise is either ignorance or malice.

These were not solutions to plug the leak but how to clean the oil out of the ocean, the beaches and the wildlife. The demonstrations were impressive and provide hope. It's better than a promise to "kick" something -- that looks good on the campaign stump but doesn't resolve the problem.

rhadamanthus · 06-12-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

I'm sitting here right now watching Huckabee on Fox News. There is no reference to it yet but when it goes to Youtube I'll post it, but I think it repeats at 7 p.m. Sunday.

Huckabee is featuring people with ocean and shoreline clean-up solutions to the oil spill that BP and Obama have ignored so far. Huckabee is right in saying that America is a "can do" nation in contrast to Obama's "can't do" philosophy. Personally, I'm sick of Obama blaming everything on everybody else rather than taking the bull by the horns and leading, but that's a harangue for another day. Right now I'm very intrigued by the potential solutions. If you see them, I'd love your comments on these solutions.

Dude. Shut up.

Depressio · 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

These were not solutions to plug the leak but how to clean the oil out of the ocean, the beaches and the wildlife. The demonstrations were impressive and provide hope. It's better than a promise to "kick" something -- that looks good on the campaign stump but doesn't resolve the problem.

What were they? Were they scalable or something like the Youtube video using hay?

You're asking for potential solutions to be discussed in this thread, but didn't even mention WHAT you saw that prompted this thread. This makes no sense to me unless this was just an excuse to make a snide remark about Obama.

thumbs · 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rhadamanthus

Dude. Shut up.

Why? Do you not want to examine ways to help restore the livelihoods, property and wildlife of the Gulf Coast? Or would you prefer to see them continue to suffer? Sounds like the latter.

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TSchmal

What were they? Were they scalable or something like the Youtube video using hay?

You're asking for potential solutions to be discussed in this thread, but didn't even mention WHAT you saw that prompted this thread. This makes no sense to me unless this was just an excuse to make a snide remark about Obama.

I recommend watching the show tomorrow to get the full impact. There were several types of chemicals and products -- including hay -- that are currently on the market. For example, there was a biodegradable compound that cleaned "spilled" oil out of the water to a degree that it regained immediate potability. Another chemical soaked up the oil and the excess becomes fish food.

Amid all the gloom, of which there is plenty, there are people out there who are thinking of solutions rather than blame. Hope is a good emotion.

lovecats · 06-12-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

I'm sitting here right now watching Huckabee on Fox News. There is no reference to it yet but when it goes to Youtube I'll post it, but I think it repeats at 7 p.m. Sunday.

Huckabee is featuring people with ocean and shoreline clean-up solutions to the oil spill that BP and Obama have ignored so far. Huckabee is right in saying that America is a "can do" nation in contrast to Obama's "can't do" philosophy. Personally, I'm sick of Obama blaming m3 ds real everything on everybody else rather than taking the bull by the horns and leading, but that's a harangue for another day. Right now I'm very intrigued by the potential solutions. If you see them, I'd love your comments on these solutions.

It is a disaster. When will it stop? pray for it

DaDakota · 06-12-2010, 10:30 PM

Hey maybe if the Dubya run congress and presidency didn't make the deepwater drilling laws so much more lax than anywhere else in the world none of this would have happened.

To drill in the North Sea, you have to have 3 wells, in case one fails they can relieve the pressure with the other 2.

But Bush/Cheney said...nah...one is enough.

WOOHOOO !!

DD

Depressio · 06-12-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

I recommend watching the show tomorrow to get the full impact. There were several types of chemicals and products -- including hay -- that are currently on the market. For example, there was a biodegradable compound that cleaned "spilled" oil out of the water to a degree that it regained immediate potability. Another chemical soaked up the oil and the excess becomes fish food.

Scalability, buddy. Is it scalable? Is it a compound that can be mass produced? Does anyone have the capability to do so? What are these compounds called? Who created them? How expensive are they? As you can tell, I'm pretty sick of all these "great" ideas that simply aren't feasible due to the sheer magnitude of the leak.

If you want to discuss these sorts of things, these sorts of questions must be asked and answered. You can't say "hey there was this good show and you should see it" -- that's not a discussion.

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaDakota

Hey maybe if the Dubya run congress and presidency didn't make the deepwater drilling laws so much more lax than anywhere else in the world none of this would have happened.

To drill in the North Sea, you have to have 3 wells, in case one fails they can relieve the pressure with the other 2.

But Bush/Cheney said...nah...one is enough.

WOOHOOO !!

DD

This is not a blame game thread, although I am seriously tempted every time I think about how badly Obama is managing this man-made disaster. Yes, there is plenty of blame to go around and around again. However, these were serious clean-up solutions that even a BP chemical engineer verified had a serious chance of working.

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lovecats

It is a disaster. When will it stop? pray for it

I do, but we also need to remember that the Lord helps those who help themselves.

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TSchmal

Scalability, buddy. Is it scalable? Is it a compound that can be mass produced? Does anyone have the capability to do so? What are these compounds called? Who created them? How expensive are they? As you can tell, I'm pretty sick of all these "great" ideas that simply aren't feasible due to the sheer magnitude of the leak.

If you want to discuss these sorts of things, these sorts of questions must be asked and answered. You can't say "hey there was this good show and you should see it" -- that's not a discussion.

Scalability also was discussed. Regarding one of the chemicals discussed, the principal proponent said 1.2 million metric tons was readily available. Cost was not discussed, but now you are interested in BP's bottom line? Also, who says we have to use only one solution? Let's use everything at our disposal to save the livelihoods of people along the Gulf Coast and especially to spare the environment and wildlife.

Severe Rockets Fan · 06-12-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

However, these were serious clean-up solutions that even a BP chemical engineer verified had a serious chance of working.

Sounds great, BP has been great at managing this disaster so far

. Tell me, when do you think they'll actually get this thing capped? Oh wait...lets throw hay on the oil first...we can worry about actually stopping the oil gushing into the Gulf some other time...priorities, priorities,who cares about those when you have a chance to bama-bash right?

thumbs · 06-12-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Severe Rockets Fan

Sounds great, BP has been great at managing this disaster so far

. Tell me, when do you think they'll actually get this thing capped? Oh wait...lets throw hay on the oil first...we can worry about actually stopping the oil gushing into the Gulf some other time...priorities, priorities,who cares about those when you have a chance to bama-bash right?

So, we are supposed to wait until they plug the blowout before we start the clean-up? Had we started the clean-up right away with sweepers that were available and offered -- but were refused -- the clean-up would still be extensive but on a lesser scale than we face now.

Severe Rockets Fan · 06-12-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thumbs

So, we are supposed to wait until they plug the blowout before we start the clean-up? Had we started the clean-up right away with sweepers that were available and offered -- but were refused -- the clean-up would still be extensive but on a lesser scale than we face now.

Right away? You mean when it was initially claimed that there was a small spill, but no oil was leaking into the Gulf? Then it was 1000 barrels a day, then 5000, now anywhere up to 80000 barrels a day? Sorry, but do you suggest that sweepers be deployed whenever there is an oil spill detected in the Gulf?