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Poll: Tea Party Uncomfortable With Minorities

A new University of Washington poll found that many Tea Partiers believe "lesbians and gays have too much political power," and that despite hating our new commie government, they want Medicare and Social Security to remain in place.

The poll, conducted in May, surveyed 1,695 voters over the phone. 35 percent of those questioned "strongly" or "somewhat" support the Tea Party movement. So what else did the pollsters from UW find out? The Seattle Times spoke with University of Washington political science professor Matt Barreto, who told the paper:

"The data tells us this opposition and frustration with government is going hand in hand with a frustration and opposition to racial and ethnic minorities and gays and lesbians."

Shocking! The poll asked questions about race, gay rights, and immigration. 88 percent of voters polled who said they support the Tea Party also support Arizona's new racial profiling law. And 52 percent agreed with the statement, "compared to the size of their group, lesbians and gays have too much political power." Damn straight! The underdog, grass roots Tea Party movement is under threat from growing numbers of gays, blacks and Mexicans, all of whom want to spoil White Culture for future generations of Americans. And there's an even bigger threat brewing inside the Obama White House: he's spending your hard earned money on "the others":

"The tea party movement is not just about small government or frustration. It's (also) about a very specific frustration with government resources being used on minorities and gays and lesbians and people who are more diverse."

No wonder overnight politicans like Rand Paul and druggie Tim D'Annunzio have gained so much support from disenfranchised white people. Only they can reverse this liberal trend and restore the principals of our Founding Fathers, back to the days when slavery was all the rage and homosexuality didn't exist.

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New poll looks at tea party views toward minorities

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A new University of Washington poll suggests tea party supporters are not just angry about government spending and the new national health care law.

"The data tells us this opposition and frustration with government is going hand in hand with a frustration and opposition to racial and ethnic minorities and gays and lesbians," said Matt Barreto, a political science professor and director of UW's Washington Poll.

The poll, released on Tuesday, surveyed 1,695 voters in May by phone and has a 2.3 percent margin of error. It found that 35 percent of the voters surveyed "strongly" or "somewhat" approve of the tea party movement, 37 percent dissaprove and 28 percent had no opinion or had not heard of the tea party.

The survey asked several questions related to race, immigration and gay rights.

For example, the survey asked voters if they support the law in Arizona that "requires police to question people they suspect are illegal immigrants for proof of legal status." The poll found 88 percent of voters who "strongly approve" of the tea party also support the Arizona law, compared to 52 percent of all voters surveyed.

Also, 52 percent of strong tea party supporters agreed with the statement that "compared to the size of their group, lesbians and gays have too much political power," compared to 25 percent of all voters surveyed.

The poll found 19 percent of all voters surveyed "strongly approve" of the tea party.

Barreto, citing a recent New York Times poll that found most tea party supporters approved of government spending for Social Security and Medicare, and research by fellow UW professor Christopher Parker, concludes "The tea party movement is not just about small government or frustration. It's (also) about a very specific frustration with government resources being used on minorities and gays and lesbians and people who are more diverse."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm..._party_vi.html

It's ok though, it only takes a handful of black and hispanic supporters to make the large chunk of racists and homophobes irrelevant.

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That's a pretty big leap going from this:
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And 52 percent agreed with the statement, "compared to the size of their group, lesbians and gays have too much political power."

"The tea party movement is not just about small government or frustration. It's (also) about a very specific frustration with government resources being used on minorities and gays and lesbians and people who are more diverse."
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Only they can reverse this liberal trend and restore the principals of our Founding Fathers, back to the days when slavery was all the rage and homosexuality didn't exist.
 
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That's a pretty big leap going from this:

to this:
Gawker is purposely written in a snarky facetious manner.

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Yes those gays and lesbians with all the power. They almost have enough power to have equal rights, but they don't have equal rights so their power is tenuously kept in check.

The part about their support of the AZ immigration law adds so much fuel to their hypocrisy. As long as the state govt. is intrusive, and abuses authority they support it, but it shouldn't be the federal govt. doing it. Is that really the stance?

Sorry thumbs, but it appears more and more like your tea party movement is a fraud. I feel bad for those taken in by the fraud.

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For example, the survey asked voters if they support the law in Arizona that "requires police to question people they suspect are illegal immigrants for proof of legal status." The poll found 88 percent of voters who "strongly approve" of the tea party also support the Arizona law, compared to 52 percent of all voters surveyed.
Hmmm, so according to this poll, the majority of voters support the Arizona law.

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On a quick review of the article, it seems to be quite a leap to go from support for Arizona law to "unease about minorities" in general. Even though I am against the law, I can see how a person can support it without being afraid of/hate/nervous about all people of color. I wonder if there were questions in the survey about thing like "whether black people/Asians/Latino have too much power, etc." "are your favorite Rockets Dan Langhi, Spanoulis and Budinger" or even questions more direcctly relevant to racial bias.

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wow that truly is a garbage article written by the far left liberal. I admit there are crap articles from both sides and here is evidence of one from the left.
I don't support everything the tea party stands for. Well I am not sure what the Tea Party stands for and neither do a lot of the members since there is no documented core values. But I do support their core beliefs of smaller government, personal responsibility, and less taxes. By the way I am a minority and not a racist.
 
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Well I am not sure what the Tea Party stands for and neither do a lot of the members since there is no documented core values. But I do support their core beliefs of smaller government, personal responsibility, and less taxes.
This post perfectly sums up everything you have ever written here. Funny, in a sadly oblivious sort of way.

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rhad, YOU are the far left liberal!

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This post perfectly sums up everything you have ever written here. Funny, in a sadly oblivious sort of way.
Excellent. And yes, it is pretty sad.

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This post perfectly sums up everything you have ever written here. Funny, in a sadly oblivious sort of way.
mwahahahahahahaha

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This post perfectly sums up everything you have ever written here. Funny, in a sadly oblivious sort of way.
rhadman i was simply acknowledging the fact the the tea party has no central figure or leader. I noticed that when I wrote the post but I believe the Tea Party or those who choose to get involved in the Tea Party in one way or another have a shared belief of conservative fiscal responsibility.
 
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on another note it really is hard to distinguish what a party stands for anymore. What does the Democratic party stand for? What does the Republican party stand for? There is a set of core values that draws people together behind a certain party. Just because the Tea Party doesn't have a central leader with a documented belief it doesn't mean there wasn't some core value there that got the movement started in the first place.
 
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rhadman i was simply acknowledging the fact the the tea party has no central figure or leader. I noticed that when I wrote the post but I believe the Tea Party or those who choose to get involved in the Tea Party in one way or another have a shared belief of conservative fiscal responsibility.
Textbook. When exposed, alter the story. You are perfectly predictable.

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Textbook. When exposed, alter the story. You are perfectly predictable.
How am I altering my story? I am only clarifying what you misinterpreted. Don't be so blinded just because I may have different beliefs than you
 
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I noticed that when I wrote the post but I believe the Tea Party or those who choose to get involved in the Tea Party in one way or another have a shared belief of conservative fiscal responsibility.
They have a shared belief - but it's not conservative fiscal responsibility. For the most part, they are opposed to higher taxes, opposed to cutting defense spending, and opposed to cuts in medicare and social security. Those three equal the very opposite of fiscal responsibility.

Their shared value is anger. Some are angry at the banks or the bailouts. Some are angry at government. Some are angry we have a black President. But they are all just angry and just want to throw everyone overboard, with no rhyme or reason. And rarely do any of them actually have any sort of functional governing philosophy or solutions for any of their anger.
 
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on another note it really is hard to distinguish what a party stands for anymore.
Not if you're paying attention.

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What does the Democratic party stand for?
Health care reform. Financial reform. Immigration reform. Energy reform with a focus on alternative energy.

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What does the Republican party stand for?
Opposing the Democrats no matter what. Even if Dems adopt GOP ideas, as they did with health care reform.

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Just because the Tea Party doesn't have a central leader with a documented belief it doesn't mean there wasn't some core value there that got the movement started in the first place.
True - if you consider hatred and anger to be core values.
 
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Not if you're paying attention.



Health care reform. Financial reform. Immigration reform. Energy reform with a focus on alternative energy.



Opposing the Democrats no matter what. Even if Dems adopt GOP ideas, as they did with health care reform.



True - if you consider hatred and anger to be core values.
everything you claim above is untrue and unfounded and just more blind liberal bias and talking points
 
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How am I altering my story? I am only clarifying what you misinterpreted. Don't be so blinded just because I may have different beliefs than you
Clarification: to make (an idea, statement, etc.) clear or intelligible; to free from ambiguity.

Alteration: a change; modification or adjustment.

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Well I am not sure what the Tea Party stands for and neither do a lot of the members since there is no documented core values.
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I am unsure of current tea party political platform based on a lack of clear and consistently applied core values referenced in a documented fashion
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i was simply acknowledging the fact the the tea party has no central figure or leader...I believe the Tea Party or those who choose to get involved in the Tea Party in one way or another have a shared belief of conservative fiscal responsibility.
There is nothing wrong with admitting error and altering your position, you just never admit to it. As I stated in the referenced post above:

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You're not consistent at all. You know why? Because you always start out with the extremist "IT'S THE LIBERALS AAAAAARRRRRGHHHHH!!!!11" and then get exposed. Then you back off and revert to suggesting correlations sans facts. Rinse, repeat.
Oh, and that was a well-placed "woe is me, I'm being unfairly criticized" pity-party for your last sentence. Duly noted.

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everything you claim above is untrue and unfounded and just more blind liberal bias and talking points
Tell me, sunsfan, can you prove this assertion? Can you document any of your claims as Major can very easily document his? Or is this a new step in the sunsfan methodology?

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