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FoOLiSh_AzN is online now Old 03-09-2010, 08:45 PM   #1
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espn NBA's john hollinger just posted an article about some shooters and who he thinks is the greatest shooter of all time?

can someone who has Espn Insiders post it up thanks great appreciate it.

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Without looking, I could have told you it's Steve Nash. Just check the percentages. Here's Hollinger's list with methodology:

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Top All-Time Shooters By CSR Player 2-Pt% 3-Pt% FT% CSR Steve Nash .515 .431 .903 1.849 Steve Kerr .494 .454 .864 1.812 Reggie Miller .525 .395 .888 1.807 Mark Price .501 .402 .904 1.807 Jeff Hornacek .515 .403 .877 1.795 Chris Mullin .533 .384 .865 1.783 Peja Stoj. .485 .400 .895 1.779 Larry Bird .509 .376 .886 1.770 Ray Allen .482 .396 .893 1.770 Dana Barros .488 .411 .858 1.757 Min. 10,000 career minutes and 250 made 3-pointers


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From there, I set about creating a formula to rank the best shooters. I thought I'd have to dream up something very complex to adjust for all the variables involved, but it turned out a simple formula worked far better than any of my more exotic concoctions. I simply added a player's 2-point, 3-point and free throw percentages. We'll call this "Combined Shooting Rating," or CSR for short.


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The method is very simple, but I can't argue with the results there. Here are the top 20 in "CSR" this season, minimum 30 3s made, 1000 minutes played:

Player              Team   PS     GP    Min      FG%      3P %      FT%     CSR
miller,mike         was    SG     32    1021     0.542    0. 527    0.825   1.895
nash,steve          pho    PG     64    2149     0.506    0. 415    0.940   1.861
morrow,anthony      gsw    SG     51    1594     0.475    0. 452    0.882   1.810
wright,dorell       mia    SG     55    1093     0.470    0. 398    0.929   1.796
ridnour,luke        mil    PG     62    1343     0.478    0. 383    0.926   1.788
paul,chris          nor    PG     38    1474     0.504    0. 420    0.862   1.786
billups,chauncey    den    PG     54    1830     0.436    0. 423    0.902   1.762
pierce,paul         bos    SF     51    1775     0.460    0. 439    0.854   1.754
curry,stephen       gsw    PG     63    2261     0.455    0. 417    0.878   1.751
jack,jarrett        tor    PG     61    1748     0.497    0. 415    0.834   1.746
durant,kevin        okl    SF     62    2460     0.477    0. 377    0.885   1.738
williams,mo         cle    PG     54    1864     0.429    0. 415    0.894   1.738
nowitzki,dirk       dal    PF     64    2426     0.479    0. 352    0.906   1.737
udrih,beno          sac    PG     60    1762     0.494    0. 400    0.837   1.731
lawson,ty           den    PG     55    1188     0.514    0. 432    0.773   1.719
calderon,jose       tor    PG     47    1293     0.493    0. 395    0.831   1.718
allen,ray           bos    SG     60    2175     0.468    0. 352    0.897   1.718
frye,channing       pho    C      65    1793     0.450    0. 434    0.800   1.684
redick,j.j.         orl    SG     64    1392     0.433    0. 387    0.861   1.681
stojakovic,peja     nor    SF     62    1945     0.404    0. 375    0.897   1.676

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If I could choose one guy from that list to take the clutch shot? Larry Bird

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I'd say the best shooter is one of: nash, allen, miller. I don't think many people realize that nash is such a great shooter since his PG skills seem to overshadow that.

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I don't remember Barros being such a good shooter.

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Stats is irrelevant from a historical perspective. Nowadays the defender can't even touch the shooter in the perimeter but it's definitely not the case in earlier years. Nevertheless, the abolition of illegal defense rule didn't affect outside shooting as much as dribble penetration.

That being said, Reggie Miller is the best shooter of all time.

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thanks m_cable for posting that

Nash is a Great Shooter but certainly not the best. i give nash credit for making off balance 3s and shots but as a stand-still shooter he is not even top 10 to be honest. Nash couldnt even win the 3pt contest.

He forgot to mention Dell Curry n jon paxson

I strongly disagree that Steve Nash is the best pure shooter of all time

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My pick is Allen. Statistically speaking there are those who are superior but his form is perfect, his stroke is divine, and in Seattle he lead in 3s several seasons. He also had and still sorta has that killer instinct shot that beats buzzers.

I also think highly of Nash especially back in the dantoni days when he had Marion and a blooming stoudemire.

Reggie miller gets props too the guys practically regarded as a legend for his shot. Heck before tmac's 13 in under 35 there was reggies 10 to win the game.

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thanks m_cable for posting that

Nash is a Great Shooter but certainly not the best. i give nash credit for making off balance 3s and shots but as a stand-still shooter he is not even top 10 to be honest. Nash couldnt even win the 3pt contest.


Nash is #3 all time in career FT%.

And who gives a flip about the 3-point contest, or anything that happens during all-star weekend.

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I think best shooter is too broad. There's a big difference between being a good shooter and being a good shooter who's also clutch.

All things considered it's gotta be Reggie Miller no doubt. I wasn't a fan of his but I can't stop praising the guy. Not only was he clutch in dire situations he was also money under normal circumstances. Plus he had that really awkward looking release and still got it done. I wonder how many coach's throughout his childhood told him his release was jacked up and that he would need to fix it. More power to him.

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Sweet, Mark Price made the list.

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thanks m_cable for posting that

Nash is a Great Shooter but certainly not the best. i give nash credit for making off balance 3s and shots but as a stand-still shooter he is not even top 10 to be honest. Nash couldnt even win the 3pt contest.

He forgot to mention Dell Curry n jon paxson

I strongly disagree that Steve Nash is the best pure shooter of all time

i don't see how 3p contest matters. this is like saying that nate robinson is the best dunker of all time.

as for stand-still shooting, check out his ft%.

nash is up there with the best. although, i'd prefer allen/miller who shoot 3s in high volume, i don't think nash is worse than anyone else.

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