Obama: W was right

basso · 12-07-2009, 02:12 PM

about the surge, at least, that seems to be the common sense meaning of this little nugget:

WASHINGTON — President Obama strongly opposed President George W. Bush’s surge in Iraq during his presidential campaign, and even now he has never publicly acknowledged that it was largely successful.

But in the White House Situation Room a little more than a month ago, he told his aides, “It turned out to be a good thing.” And as many of Mr. Obama’s own advisers have recounted in recent days in interviews, the decision on the surge of 30,000 troops to Afghanistan by next summer was at least partly inspired by the success of the effort in Iraq, which Mr. Bush’s aides say is their best hope that historians will give them some credit when the history of a highly problematic war is written.

ah well, as Tom McGuire has written:

If the President wants to reduce partisan rancor and regain the national unity we felt after 9/11, publicly acknowledging the rare successes of his predecessor might make a start.

Qball · 12-07-2009, 02:17 PM

So you must love Obama now. That's great news for....ehhh Obama?

TeamUSA · 12-07-2009, 02:23 PM

eveybody is always right in the whitehouse.

Rashmon · 12-07-2009, 03:00 PM

Stop the presses!

pgabriel · 12-07-2009, 03:07 PM

so do you believe obama is right and therefore bush being right because I could have sworn you called this move pathetic

basso · 12-07-2009, 03:42 PM

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so do you believe obama is right and therefore bush being right because I could have sworn you called this move pathetic

you didn't read the whole post you linked, did you?

Nice Rollin · 12-07-2009, 03:46 PM

so you disagree with obama about this?

anything obama says is wrong right?

pgabriel · 12-07-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by basso

you didn't read the whole post you linked, did you?

funny, I was going to ask you the same thing about the article you posted

langal · 12-07-2009, 04:12 PM

sort of an "i told you so" but really not a big deal.

Politicians are pretty much wrong half the time.

If someone can learn from mistakes then all the better.

rimbaud · 12-07-2009, 07:10 PM

Uhhh...Obama said he thought the surge worked during the campaign.

here

here

And in at least one of the debates that I saw but now cannot find online.

rhino17 · 12-07-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rimbaud

Uhhh...Obama said he thought the surge worked during the campaign.

here

here

And in at least one of the debates that I saw but now cannot find online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_igpyewuzQ&feature=player_embedded#at=14

Sweet Lou 4 2 · 12-08-2009, 12:08 AM

Bush wasn't right - Patraeus was right.

That's the only thing Bush did right about Iraq - was listen to General Patreus.

pouhe · 12-08-2009, 06:24 AM

Eisenhower: Hitler "had right idea" about Volkswagen, Autobahn.

Codman · 12-08-2009, 06:48 AM

Iraq and Afghanistan are not the same wars, so it's illogical to compare the strategies. The surge in Iraq was a reaction to an eight year mistake. Obama is still cleaning up Georgie's mess all over the place.

basso · 12-08-2009, 06:54 AM

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Eisenhower: Hitler "had right idea" about Volkswagen, Autobahn.

Bush=Hitler?

pouhe · 12-08-2009, 07:51 AM

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Bush=Hitler?

4,000 dead GIs; half a trillion dollars and no WMD = success? Cutting off the water after you flood the goddamned basement isn't an accomplishment. Your boy destroyed our country's credit and killed a whole neighborhood's worth of young men and women to work through a post-alcoholic mid-life crisis. F**k him and anyone else in power who's still trying to rationalize this $1,000-per-head negligent homicide.

basso · 12-08-2009, 10:18 AM

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4,000 dead GIs; half a trillion dollars and no WMD = success? Cutting off the water after you flood the goddamned basement isn't an accomplishment. Your boy destroyed our country's credit and killed a whole neighborhood's worth of young men and women to work through a post-alcoholic mid-life crisis. F**k him and anyone else in power who's still trying to rationalize this $1,000-per-head negligent homicide.

thanks- you've earned yourself a special reward.

pouhe · 12-08-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by basso

thanks- you've earned yourself a special reward.

Cryptic = Witty?

pouhe · 12-09-2009, 06:37 AM

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4,000 dead GIs; half a trillion dollars...$1,000-per-head negligent homicide.

thanks- you've earned yourself a special reward.

Sorry for the bump, but I figured I'd admit this error on my part. If certain other posters can learn from this example, so be it.