Battier is becoming an albatross

11-20-2009, 09:48 PM	#1
Another Brother Contributing Member Since: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,934 Member: #3149
	In watching him play he doesn't seem to have the same instinct, and is less of an offensive player than he ever was. He's only had one really brilliant game this season and it was in the pre-season. Is he still the same lock down defender that he once was? Or did Joe Johnson just have an off night tonight? I love Shane's character and what he brings to the table as a leader but I think that his role on the floor should be greatly diminished. MHO __________________ Facebook

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11-20-2009, 09:49 PM	#2
GlenRice Contributing Member Since: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,025 Member: #40285
	TRADE HIM NOW __________________ It's not a knee jerk reaction if you have the same feeling after every game.

11-20-2009, 09:51 PM	#3
Yak Member Since: Nov 2007 Posts: 795 Member: #28518
	He's simpl not fit fo this type of team. He was fine when he could camp the corner and hut open threes, but now he's expected to create his own shot, something he hasn't been able to do for a long time. I say we should try to actively trade him, since we really don't need him anymore.

11-20-2009, 09:54 PM	#4
Francis3422 Member Since: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,512 Member: #1341
	I think he has lost a bit defensively. I think that between Scola, Hayes and Yao (next year hopefully) we have adequate leadership on this team to where we could trade Battier. Battier is doing a lot of dribbling in our offense (moreso than he ever has) but he is never even a threat to create. __________________ Who is John Galt?

11-20-2009, 09:54 PM	#5
W22_STREAK Member Since: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,989 Member: #31459
	Morey must love Battier for a reason __________________ Needing a Point Guard since 2004...FOUND ONE! KYLE LOWRY ALL THE WAY!

11-20-2009, 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yak

He's simpl not fit fo this type of team. He was fine when he could camp the corner and hut open threes, but now he's expected to create his own shot, something he has NEVER been able to do.

I say we should try to actively trade him, since we really don't need him anymore.

Corrected. It's not his fault if he can't do that,since he doesn't have that ability.
Trade him only if we can get a good,preferably young player for him.

11-20-2009, 09:55 PM	#7
redao Member Since: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,953 Member: #4595
	Morey should have traded him this summer. __________________ Yao Ming is unstoppable.

11-20-2009, 09:55 PM	#8
DaDakota Contributing Member Since: Mar 1999 Posts: 61,942 Member: #331
	I think they keep him around this year to teach CBud and Ariza what he knows and trade him in the summer. DD __________________ Follow DD™ - on Twitter: DD the Silverback's twitter extravaganza Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard- Personal insults means you have lost the argument and get put on ignore.

11-20-2009, 09:58 PM

saleem

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Originally Posted by DaDakota

I think they keep him around this year to teach CBud and Ariza what he knows and trade him in the summer.

DD

Your point is a valid one,but if we can get a good player around the trade deadline,it should be done IMO.

11-20-2009, 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yak

He's simpl not fit fo this type of team. He was fine when he could camp the corner and hut open threes, but now he's expected to create his own shot, something he hasn't been able to do for a long time.

I say we should try to actively trade him, since we really don't need him anymore.

I'm guessing the pace we're playing at this year is also taking a toll on Battier's stamina on the defensive end. He just doesn't look like the same guy this season, whether on offense or defense. I can understand (and even accept) some of his offensive slumps, but his defensive deficiencies are a bit harder to put aside, since that's his MO.

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11-20-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaDakota

I think they keep him around this year to teach CBud and Ariza what he knows and trade him in the summer.

DD

I think if Morey gets a trade offer he can't resist, he'll take it.

11-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#12
BMoney Contributing Member Since: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,979 Member: #15857
	Albatross? That's a bit harsh. Under performing? Maybe. Redundant with Ariza? Probably. __________________ History repeats the old conceits The glib replies the same defeats Keep your finger on important issues With crocodile tears and a pocketful of tissues I'm just the oily slick On the windup world of the nervous tick In a very fashionable hovel -Elvis Costello

11-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#13
rockets934life Contributing Member Since: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,092 Member: #28025
	I love the guy's leadshipe, intensity and all out hustle but he just doesn't look right out there...Shane needs a big man to find him for open for 3's and without it he gets exposed and defensivly just not the same anymore. Shane is incredibly valuable to certain teams as the "missing" piece and I say use him to get a big man if they do decide to move him. __________________ “It’s my job to make this team as ready to win the title as possible." - Daryl Morey The challenge with Houston is to meet their level of intensity, posture, all those kinds of things," Carlisle said. "If you don't do that, they're going to kick your ass. That's what they've been doing to teams." - Rick Carlisle

11-20-2009, 10:01 PM

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I think if Morey gets a trade offer he can't resist, he'll take it.

I am good with that too.....but let's not forget Shane is the team captain along with Hayes....

The deal would have to involve a very hard working young player, not someone skilled but lazy or with a low BBall IQ....

Fernandez would work, but not Outlaw......got to get players that fit with this group.

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11-20-2009, 10:01 PM

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i would keep battier over ariza even though ariza is only 24 battier is a championship caliber role player while ariza is just a solid good role player

11-20-2009, 10:08 PM	#16
lpbman Member Since: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,341 Member: #3345
	He needs fewer minutes, more for Chase. Maybe fewer minutes will give him some legs for those threes. He's pretty useless offensively with this current team.

11-20-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Another Brother

In watching him play he doesn't seem to have the same instinct, and is less of an offensive player than he ever was. He's only had one really brilliant game this season and it was in the pre-season. Is he still the same lock down defender that he once was? Or did Joe Johnson just have an off night tonight?

I love Shane's character and what he brings to the table as a leader but I think that his role on the floor should be greatly diminished.

MHO

How many games have you watched this year? Just wondering..

11-20-2009, 10:10 PM	#18
Entropy Member Since: Jun 2002 Posts: 665 Member: #5352
	Would we still be wanting to trade Battier if Yao and Tmac were back on this team? Battier's headiness has saved us plenty of times, but his lack of offensive punch also has me wondering... __________________ “That’s why we’ve been able to win a lot of games,” Adelman said. “We respond. Our guys respond.”

11-20-2009, 10:12 PM

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32 minutes, 0 rebounds...

you know i don't like his extremely low rebounding numbers either, but i did remember he's the guy who's suppose to get back on every rebound, so that is going to keep his numbers down, at least compared to the rest of the team.

11-20-2009, 10:13 PM	#20
jeffvangundy Member Since: Jan 2009 Posts: 625 Member: #36173
	are you serious ? trading him would be dumb ,he'll be the key for our championship run next season

Battier is becoming an albatross

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