[yahoo] McGrady and Adelman in heated argument

[keez857]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

After months of growing discord and mistrust between the Houston Rockets and their once-franchise player, Tracy McGrady(notes) and coach Rick Adelman engaged in an emotional and sometimes loud closed-door confrontation about the star’s uncertain status on Wednesday night, sources told Yahoo! Sports. The argument was precipitated when McGrady arrived at the Target Center in Minneapolis so determined to have a substantive discussion with his coach that he dressed in his game uniform and undertook his pregame routine as though he hadn’t been activated after missing 41 straight games with microfracture surgery on his left knee.

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[ParaSolid]

Wow. Just trade him if it's this bad. Honestly, I wanted to see if he could help the Rockets but it looks pretty bad right now. I'll still root for the guy wherever he ends up, but I really wanted him to be able to help the Rockets. Oh well.

[J623_Rockets]

Originally Posted by keez857 http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns Please lock if already posted.

Certainly interesting but I seriously doubt the reliability of yahoo sports news... most of the time their columnists don't know jack about what they are actually writing. If this was indeed true I imagine Jonathan Feigen at the chron.com, who often has close access to our players and staffs, would have had mentioned about it.

Just my opinion though.

Most Yahoo Sports News often only deserve a icon to me

[worzel gummidge]

Me-Mac

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6730531.html

Nov. 19, 2009 He repeatedly has disagreed with Morey's description of his participating in practices as “off and on.” “Me going out and practicing and not being able to finish, I don't know where that comes from,” McGrady said. “I've been going full practices for a while. I was shocked to hear that. “I don't want to start anything up, but I've been practicing full practices for a while.”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6713302.html

Nov. 10, 2009 McGrady did not dispute Morey's contention Monday morning that McGrady is still “off and on” in practice. In his blog Monday, McGrady had said he was practicing without limitations. Asked about the discrepancy, McGrady said, “I said what I said; he said what he said.”

[Hayesfan]

Originally Posted by J623_Rockets Certainly interesting but I seriously doubt the reliability of yahoo sports news... most of the time their columnists don't know jack about what they are actually writing. If this was indeed true I imagine Jonathan Feigen at the chron.com, who often has close access to our players and staffs, would have had mentioned about it. Just my opinion though. Most Yahoo Sports News often only deserve a icon to me

Jonathon may have been asked not to report it. My theory is that it's tmac's people that are the "sources" Woj is citing.

[ArtisGilmore]

Coming from a neutral perspective (with respect to McGrady): hometown beat writers must give the organization's line in their papers, otherwise the organization stops talking to the beat writer and makes it impossible for the writer to do his job.

[J623_Rockets]

Originally Posted by Hayesfan Jonathon may have been asked not to report it. My theory is that it's tmac's people that are the "sources" Woj is citing.

That could be true.

But given that those so-called "sources close to players" are often not that reliable, I wouldn't pay too much attention to this article.

Let's just wait and see what happens after the full practice and MRI on Monday.

In the mean time... GO GET THEM HAWKS ROCKETS!!!!!

[the_hustler]

not that Mcgrady is right...

but looks the team is taking revenge for what he did last year.. i would not blame him too much for this news.. whats wrong in wanting to play when you are fit?

but he deserves the treatment i guess.

just marbury-him or trade him. enuf is enuf..

[prv1981]

It kind of makes sense from a cash money perspective.

The Rockets gain nothing from letting McGrady return early. Insurance is currently paying McGradys salary lowering the burden on their bottom line.

The team is winning so they do not need him on the court to make the team relevant.

[HookemHorns1250]

First off, I'd like to say I'm not a T-mac only fan. However, I'm not going to completely write him off even if this is true. He's a competitor. If he thinks he's ready, and he's not being allowed to play he's going to be frustrated.

That being said, if Coach doesn't think he's ready, then he has the upper hand on whether he should come back or not.

[worzel gummidge]

Originally Posted by J623_Rockets But given that those so-called "sources close to players" are often not that reliable, I wouldn't pay too much attention to this article.

Remember how Al Harrington's close source revealed to the media he wanted out of Golden State. The next day he tows the company line and denies these rumors. 24hrs later he does a 180 and goes to the media to demand a trade.

How can reporters verify these sources? They ask the player's agency. How do these sources get in contact with said reporters. It's usually set up by the player's agency.

It's funny how suddenly Adelman has an agenda. Suddenly, Morey is shady. Suddenly, Yahoo sports is unreliable. Even though they've been the major source of breaking news.

[BrownBeast99]

I don't understand why Adelman won't just give McGrady a shot to play with the team and if it doesn't work, fine, give him the Marbury treatment or trade him. Just give him a chance first, he could really help this teamif it all works out. We won't find out until he steps on the court and gets real NBA action. It looks pretty bad though, my expectations have plummeted as for McGrady contributing positively if this is true, which is a shame.

[RoxBeliever]

Originally Posted by the_hustler not that Mcgrady is right... but looks the team is taking revenge for what he did last year.. i would not blame him too much for this news.. whats wrong in wanting to play when you are fit? but he deserves the treatment i guess. just marbury-him or trade him. enuf is enuf..

I agree wholeheartedly ...

TMac's decision to get surgery without the consent of the team could be backfiring on him, as it gave the team the chance to see what life would be like without him.

Even if we lose close games because we don't have a reliable closer yet, I'd say trade the guy or allow his contract to end. Team chemistry is too important to be messed up by someone's big ego.

[the_hustler]

Originally Posted by HookemHorns1250 First off, I'd like to say I'm not a T-mac only fan. However, I'm not going to completely write him off even if this is true. He's a competitor. If he thinks he's ready, and he's not being allowed to play he's going to be frustrated. That being said, if Coach doesn't think he's ready, then he has the upper hand on whether he should come back or not.

exactly my point too..

but we cannot believe T-Mac completely here because he always "thinks" he is ready to play.. but if he is really ready.. the team has to play him ..

like they say.. " you make your bed... and you lie on it"

[the_hustler]

Originally Posted by worzel gummidge It's funny how suddenly Adelman has an agenda. Suddenly, Morey is shady. Suddenly, Yahoo sports is unreliable. Even though they've been the major source of breaking news.

I trust Yahoo Sports.. i dont think they bull**** with any news.. most often than not.. the team at Yahoo sports is very very reliable. .atleast from what i have seen

but i do think Adelman has an agenda. and morey is shady.. i think they are trying to hold out t-mac and build chemistry.. which is perfect from the rockets' perspective..

but if T-Mac is "really" fit.. he should be allowed to play.. the next thing he will do is file a grievance with the players union and create a big mess.

[pippendagimp]

Originally Posted by the_hustler but if T-Mac is "really" fit.. he should be allowed to play.. the next thing he will do is file a grievance with the players union and create a big mess.

there is no obligation on the rockets whatsoever to let him play. even if he gets on the active roster, adelman doesn't have to play his sorry ass even one minute if he doesn't want to.

[worzel gummidge]

Originally Posted by the_hustler but if T-Mac is "really" fit.. he should be allowed to play.. the next thing he will do is file a grievance with the players union and create a big mess.

There are 3 spots on the inactive list. The Rockets can place any player they wish to there.

[1individual]

I don't like the game they're playing, things can get ugly. Just let him play and we'll see whether he deserves playing time or not.

[the_hustler]

Originally Posted by pippendagimp there is no obligation on the rockets whatsoever to let him play. even if he gets on the active roster, adelman doesn't have to play his sorry ass even one minute if he doesn't want to.

yeah. they can always marbury him.. but that will create more drama .. you really want additional drama from Tracy's end? havent we had enuf..?

instead they can just start playing him and see what he does.. if he sucks.. send him back home and ask him to do rehab.. end of story.

[the_hustler]

Originally Posted by worzel gummidge There are 3 spots on the inactive list. The Rockets can place any player they wish to there.

I saw someone on the board mentioning that he can file grievance if he is not allowed to play.. not sure how it works.