[Y! Ball Don't Lie] Daryl Morey's Hidden Genius

11-04-2009, 05:40 PM

durvasa

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They refer to a Clutchfans BBS post by rockets934life.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...?urn=nba,200187

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Before I hit you with this fun little nugget, I want to reiterate something Dwyer wrote in April:

"Houston Rockets' general manager Daryl Morey isn't a genius. He's not a step and a half ahead of his colleagues. He's just better at being a GM than anyone else, right now."

Now, with that said, would I be surprised to learn that Morey is a chess Grandmaster, or that he can sketch the entire New York skyline — from memory — after just one twenty-minute helicopter ride over Manhattan? No. No I would not. "Dork Elvis" is a smart dude who likely owns many leather-bound books.

Which brings us to our nugget, courtesy of Clutch BBS. With Yao Ming(notes) and Tracy McGrady(notes) still sidelined nursing serious injuries, the Rockets' current nine/10-man rotation is made up almost entirely of late first-rounders, second-rounders and undrafted free agents. Seriously. Check out their depth chart ...

Starters:
Aaron Brooks(notes) — Drafted by the Rockets in the 1st round (26th overall)
Trevor Ariza(notes) — Drafted by the Knicks in the 2nd round (43rd overall)
Shane Battier(notes) — Drafted by the Grizzlies in the 1st round (6th overall)
Luis Scola(notes) — Drafted by the Spurs in the 2nd round (55th overall)
Chuck Hayes(notes) — Undrafted

Reserves:
Kyle Lowry(notes) — Drafted by the Grizzlies in the 1st round (24th overall)
Jermaine Taylor(notes) — Drafted by the Wizards in the 2nd round (32nd overall)
Chase Budinger(notes) — Drafted by the Pistons in the 2nd round (44th overall)
Carl Landry(notes) — Drafted by the Supersonics in the 2nd round (31st overall)
David Andersen(notes) — Drafted by the Hawks in the 2nd round (37th overall)

What's that one saying? Another man's trash is Daryl Morey's treasure? Incredible.

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11-04-2009, 05:43 PM	#2
Convictedstupid Member Since: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,368 Member: #32678
	Rockets934life is a celebrity now. __________________ Dorey "Brass Balls" Morey, the Houston Rockets Wizard.- clos4life

11-04-2009, 05:45 PM	#3
napalm_black Member Since: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,121 Member: #33900
	That's an average draft pick of 33.11, without Hayes. If you assign Hayes like a 70 that goes up to almost 37. This team is inspirational.

11-04-2009, 05:47 PM	#4
jev5555 Contributing Member Since: Oct 2002 Posts: 554 Member: #7391
	Morey is a genius and top 10 GM for all sports.

11-04-2009, 05:55 PM	#5
joesr Member Since: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,657 Member: #33500
	damn I didnt know he was a gm chess player too. more respect even now! it would be an honor to get my arse whooped by him, lol. __________________ "It's more we're in patient mode," Morey said to Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle

11-04-2009, 05:56 PM	#6
Hayesfan Contributing Member Since: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,403 Member: #20409
	we posted about this in the thread where it was said Skeets either follows me or I was retweeted by someone he follows. __________________ Three-fourths of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Chuck Hayes. - Battier Someone created the box score and he should be shot. - Morey Outsiders looking in, they look at us and they figure we're taking a year off because we don't have Yao, or Tracy is coming back later in the season. The guys on this team, the guys in this locker room, we know what we have. We know what we can do. We're a hard-playing team. If you play hard, you give yourself a chance to win. - Hayes

11-04-2009, 06:06 PM	#7
AroundTheWorld Contributing Member Since: Feb 2000 Posts: 16,078 Member: #1115
	"Dork Elvis" :D __________________ The poster formerly known as Sir Jackie Chiles Players I want to see retire as Rockets: Yao, Battier, Scola

11-04-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayesfan

we posted about this in the thread where it was said

Skeets either follows me or I was retweeted by someone he follows.

uh oh someone is pulling Twitter rank here

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11-04-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Yoyo

uh oh someone is pulling Twitter rank here

twitter rank? does that exist??

Awesome... does that mean I rank above you?

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Three-fourths of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Chuck Hayes. - Battier
Someone created the box score and he should be shot. - Morey
Outsiders looking in, they look at us and they figure we're taking a year off because we don't have Yao, or Tracy is coming back later in the season. The guys on this team, the guys in this locker room, we know what we have. We know what we can do. We're a hard-playing team. If you play hard, you give yourself a chance to win. - Hayes

11-04-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayesfan

twitter rank? does that exist??

Awesome... does that mean I rank above you?

yeah probably so

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11-04-2009, 06:29 PM	#11
rockets934life Member Since: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,917 Member: #28025
	I would like to thank the academy, Hayesfan for beliving in my talent, Yoyo for discovering a young poster who is willing to hustle like Chuck Hayes and Durvasa for letting the world know Rockets934life is more then just a name but an attitude. :D Oh yea and DMorey for being so dam brilliant! :D __________________ “It’s my job to make this team as ready to win the title as possible." - Daryl Morey The challenge with Houston is to meet their level of intensity, posture, all those kinds of things," Carlisle said. "If you don't do that, they're going to kick your ass. That's what they've been doing to teams." - Rick Carlisle

11-04-2009, 06:31 PM	#12
W22_STREAK Member Since: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,742 Member: #31459
	now if they just signed channing frye to a minimum deal... channing frye - drafted 8th 2005 __________________ Needing a Point Guard since 2004...FOUND ONE! KYLE LOWRY ALL THE WAY!

11-04-2009, 06:33 PM	#13
W22_STREAK Member Since: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,742 Member: #31459
	and also....why is Shane Battier the only lottery pick on there??? Because Morey gave away our only lottery pick of the last 7 years away... sometimes you have to look past the obvious stats.....(isn't that what Moneyball is all about? Looking past the boxscore? ) __________________ Needing a Point Guard since 2004...FOUND ONE! KYLE LOWRY ALL THE WAY!

11-04-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by W22_STREAK

and also....why is Shane Battier the only lottery pick on there???

Because Morey gave away our only lottery pick of the last 7 years away...

sometimes you have to look past the obvious stats.....(isn't that what Moneyball is all about? Looking past the boxscore?

)

Huh? Battier is a lottery pick himself, and we traded a lotter pick to get him. Even if we hadn't traded Battier we'd still have only one lottery pick (Thabo) on the squad. Well two if by some miracle Slowmile Swift is still on the squad.

11-04-2009, 06:42 PM	#15
BetterThanEver Member Since: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,840 Member: #25693
	I want to see what Morey does with a top 5 lottery pick. Getting good players from late 1st and 2nds are ok, but I want a star player. How about a star PF from the top 5? __________________ To the preposterous trade guys: The Rockets can not get LeBron, Duncan, Chris Paul, DHoward, Bosh, Deron Williams, Boozer, Kobe, Ginobili, Gasol, Carmelo, Garnett, Tony Parker, Pierce, Ray Allen, Amare, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, Amare, Dirk, Joe Johnson or DWade for T-Mac's expiring contract, because he is a triple double threat. Morey would trade his kidneys for any one of those guys. It's a no-brainer.

11-04-2009, 06:51 PM	#16
TheGreat Member Since: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,735 Member: #31451
	I will give more credit to Adelman then Morey.

11-04-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by roslolian

Rudy Gay.

I think you noticed the lottery pick I was referring to was Rudy Gay. Some people say draft picks and star player quality is not a big part of the Moneyball strategy. However if we were to then turn around and say, "wow, look at the lack of star power on this roster!" you've also got to realise that we GAVE AWAY that star player for a role player. Hence I don't think the argument that Morey achieved all this without "star power resources" is a valid point...

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11-04-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by W22_STREAK

Gay is not a star, he is a good player with talent but IMO not a star. Morey has never made that "Blockbuster" deal so he has had to revamp this team with JVG cast offs, low draft picks and a lottery pick in a very weak year.

Now this coming offseason we will see if moneyball actually works with superstars as Morey will finally be able to aquire that type of player either via trade or FA.

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The challenge with Houston is to meet their level of intensity, posture, all those kinds of things," Carlisle said. "If you don't do that, they're going to kick your ass. That's what they've been doing to teams." - Rick Carlisle

11-04-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by W22_STREAK

Your whole argument is based on the assumption that Gay is a "star" player, which is highly debatable.

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11-04-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by W22_STREAK

We didn't just "give away" the "star" that isn't Rudy Gay for just Shane Battier. We also freed ourselves from the potential salary cap restricting shackles that was Stromile Swift. And if you don't think that's a big deal, look at how we're all complaining about Brian Cook being a dead weight on the team even though he's expiring this year. Stromile had 4 years left at full MLE. The board would explode if Brian Cook had 4 extra years on it.

So the transaction was not Star for Role player.

Its Flashy prospect + Brian Cook contract on steroids for Super Role player.

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