Fiscal Responsibility...

[Major]

Remember how those big Bush tax cuts were supposed to spur the economy to grow like crazy and thus pay for themselves and be deficit neutral?

Uh yeah...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/...cit/index.html

White House projects record deficit for 2009



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The White House on Monday predicted a record deficit of $490 billion for the 2009 budget year, a senior government official told CNN.
The White House blames a faltering economy and the stimulus package for the increased budget deficit.

The White House blames a faltering economy and the stimulus package for the increased budget deficit.

The deficit would amount to roughly 3.5 percent of the nation's $14 trillion economy.

The official pointed to a faltering economy and the bipartisan $170 billion stimulus package that passed earlier this year for the record deficit.

The fiscal year begins October 1, 2008.

The federal deficit is the difference between what the government spends and what it takes in from taxes and other revenue sources. The government must borrow money to make up the difference.

The official spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing a lack of authorization to speak publicly ahead of an official briefing later Monday by Office of Management and Budget Director Jim Nussle.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said the stimulus package was necessary, even if it increased the deficit.

"We do think the plan was the right one, and it will have an effect," Perino said. "And the best way to help reduce the deficit is to make sure you are keeping a lock on spending, but also that you can also try to help to build the economy. So we hope this will help us pull out of the economic downturn over the next few months because of the stimulus package.
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"I remember that back when we were discussing the stimulus package, both parties recognized that the deficit would increase, and that would be the price that we pay in order to help improve the economy," she said.

President Bush inherited a budget surplus of $128 billion when he took office in 2001 but has since posted a budget deficit every year.

The Bush administration has spent heavily on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and faces a large budget shortfall in tax revenue because of Bush's tax cuts and a souring economy.

A Democratic point man on the budget, Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota, blasted the administration for its "reckless fiscal policies," blaming the president's tax cuts for driving the government into deficit and saying Bush "will be remembered as the most fiscally irresponsible president in our nation's history."

Conrad, who chairs the Senate's budget committee, accused the president of "squandering" the deficit he inherited from President Bill Clinton and said the increased debt the government has taken on to cover the deficit has undermined the value of the dollar and hurt the overall economy.

"If they gave out Olympic medals for fiscal irresponsibility, President Bush would take the gold, silver and bronze," Conrad said. "With his eight years in office, he will have had the five highest deficits ever recorded. And the highest of those deficits is now projected to come in 2009, as he leaves office."

But the senior administration official says the budgetary problems stem from what is believed to be inadequate defense, intelligence and homeland security resources that were handed down from Clinton.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office in March projected the deficit for the 2008 fiscal year, which ends September 30, would be $357 billion. It predicted the 2009 deficit to be $342 billion, if the president's proposals were adopted.

Both assumptions, however, were made before the economic stimulus package was passed by Congress and signed by the president this spring. The CBO said it would release revised deficit estimates in September.

[pgabriel]

I love people who bash Obama on the economy while they have been sitting quiet for through this admins wreck of fiscal managment and as if mccain has an answer LOL.

the sad part about bush's term, the economic growth we did see for a while was driven by an over inflated housing market

[updawg]

complete failure

[Qball]

Who's currently bank-rolling our debt? The Chinese govt?

[Lil Pun]

[radapharoah]

and people ask why the dollar is so low

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by Lil Pun

The Living Embodiment of The Peter Principal.




Impeach Fertitta... Welcome New Hong Kong to Texas!!

[mc mark]

Thank you very much! Yer on yer own...Goodnight!

[bnb]

military ain't spending.

it only counts if it's on them commie programs that help americans.

[Apollo Creed]

You libtards don't know anything about how the economy works. Ever heard the saying "You have to spend money you don't have to fight wars that have no end"? You probably haven't, because you're too busy drinking Obama kool-aid and sipping your $10 lattes to learn about money, like me, the savior of the Clutchfans BBS. While you're posting articles that hurts the morale of the American consumer, I'm busy supporting the economy with my fleet of American SUVs which I use to fight the war on terror. (online)

[No Worries]

BTW is that a picture of Reagan?

[Trader_Jorge]

It is the height of folly to ignore all of the variables in the economy and conclude that the tax cuts were to blame for the budget deficit. This thread is just ridiculous. For all you know, without the tax cuts, things would have been worse.

This thread lacks any serious discussion of what actually impacts the economy. I'm not about to step and and interrupt the "I hate Bush circle-splooge" that is going on right now. That has replaced economic thought on the left....

[KingCheetah]

It's time for the big spending, big government republicans to learn from their fiscally thrifty democrat friends.

[Qball]

Originally Posted by Trader_Jorge I'm not about to step and and interrupt the "I hate Bush circle-splooge" that is going on right now. That has replaced economic thought on the left....

But please...PLEASE don't let us interrupt your "I love Bush, he does no wrong" circle-splooge. :D

[Qball]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USDebt.png

Look at the number for Reagan and Bush eras. Clinton did all that for nothing...NOTHING!

[Air Langhi]

Originally Posted by Trader_Jorge It is the height of folly to ignore all of the variables in the economy and conclude that the tax cuts were to blame for the budget deficit. This thread is just ridiculous. For all you know, without the tax cuts, things would have been worse. This thread lacks any serious discussion of what actually impacts the economy. I'm not about to step and and interrupt the "I hate Bush circle-splooge" that is going on right now. That has replaced economic thought on the left....

It is not just the tax cuts. It is a stupid war in IRAQ. It is bailing out investment banks. It is promoting a weak dollar policy. It is a lot of things, and I didn't get a tax break.

[bucket]

Originally Posted by Trader_Jorge It is the height of folly to ignore all of the variables in the economy and conclude that the tax cuts were to blame for the budget deficit. This thread is just ridiculous. For all you know, without the tax cuts, things would have been worse. This thread lacks any serious discussion of what actually impacts the economy. I'm not about to step and and interrupt the "I hate Bush circle-splooge" that is going on right now. That has replaced economic thought on the left....

Not that I'm against fiscal stimulus, but I hope you don't buy the line that tax cuts generally lead to higher revenues. They almost never do, and it's embarrassing that we have a candidate for president (McCain) who says otherwise.

[radapharoah]

Originally Posted by Trader_Jorge It is the height of folly to ignore all of the variables in the economy and conclude that the tax cuts were to blame for the budget deficit. This thread is just ridiculous. For all you know, without the tax cuts, things would have been worse. This thread lacks any serious discussion of what actually impacts the economy. I'm not about to step and and interrupt the "I hate Bush circle-splooge" that is going on right now. That has replaced economic thought on the left....

lol...you really are dense...its the WAR!