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[Potential Bombshell] Obama's Connections to Terrorist Fundraiser

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    This will become a story.

    Terrorist Fundraisers for Obama
    By Patrick Poole
    FrontPageMagazine.com | Wednesday, April 23, 2008

    Two years ago, Hatem El-Hady was the chairman of the Toledo, Ohio-based Islamic charity, Kindhearts, which was closed by the US government in February 2006 for terrorist fundraising and all its assets frozen. Today, El-Hady has redirected his fundraising efforts for his newest cause - Barack Obama for President.

    El-Hady has his own dedicated page on Barack Obama's official website, chronicling his fundraising on behalf of the Democratic Party presidential candidate (his Obama profile established on February 19, 2008 - two years to the day after Kindhearts was raided by the feds). Not only that, but he has none other than Barack Obama's wife, Michelle Obama, listed as one of his friends (one of her 224 listed friends).


    But his leadership of Kindhearts is not the only thing that has brought him scrutiny by federal law enforcement officials. Last summer, El-Hady was questioned by the FBI concerning his knowledge of possible conspirators in a UK-based terror plot.

    Hatem El-Hady's interest in "change" is understandable. Following the closure of Kindhearts, he said in response to the government's closure of his organization:


    "It's dirty politics," said Dr. Hatem Elhady, chairman of the board of KindHearts, which raised $5.1 million in 2004. "They do not like the way things are going in Palestine. They do not like the election results. But that is not our problem. Our problem is providing aid to people in desperate need of help."


    The Department of Justice had a very different version of events. According to the DOJ, Kindhearts assumed the role of lead terrorist fundraising in the US after the government had closed other such Islamic "charities":


    "KindHearts is the progeny of Holy Land Foundation and Global Relief Foundation, which attempted to mask their support for terrorism behind the façade of charitable giving," said Stuart Levey, Treasury Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.


    Not only was Kindhearts engaged in providing funds for HAMAS in Lebanon and the West Bank, it had hired as a fundraising specialist the man identified as the designated HAMAS bag man in the US, Mohammed El-Mezain.

    And as investigative reporter Joe Kaufman revealed, "The Black Hearts of Kindhearts", a number of other Kindhearts officials were tied to terrorist fundraising and support:


    KindHearts’ Director of Domestic Programs, Khalifah Ramadan. Ramadan was a training and evaluation consultant for the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) and the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), two large Muslim organizations based in the United States that have links to overseas terror groups.
    KindHearts’ Representaive, Omar Shahin. Shahin was an Imam for the Islamic Center of Tucson (ICT), the former home of numerous terror operatives, including Wael Jelaidan, who later helped found Al-Qaeda.
    KindHearts’ Representative, Wagdy Ghuneim. Ghuneim, an Egyptian cleric, has been featured in KindHearts fundraising dinners for 2002, 2003 and 2004. During a rally at Brooklyn College, in May of 1998, Ghuneim attempted to persuade the crowd to support violent jihad and labeled Jews as “descendants of the apes.”
    KindHearts’ Representative, Hatem Bazian. Bazian is an Islamic Studies instructor and a member of the faculty of Near Eastern Studies at UC Berkley. In April of 2004, during a San Francisco anti-war rally, Bazian, a native Palestinian, called for an “intifada” against the United States. This was just two months prior to Bazian being featured in a KindHearts Fundraising Dinner, entitled ‘Palestinians in agony!’
    KindHearts’ Manager in Lebanon, Haytham Maghawri (a.k.a. Haytham Fawri). Maghawri, the past Social Services Director for HLF, according to the Treasury Department, “collected [KindHearts] funds and sent them to Hamas and other Salafi groups.” [One of the recipients of KindHearts funding was Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) Usama Hamdan, a leader of Hamas in Lebanon.]

    And two months before Kindhearts closure by the US government, Beila Rabinowitz had revealed that the South Asia Division Coordinator for Kindhearts, Zulfiqar Ali Shah, had known ties to al-Qaeda, even conducting a 10-day tour with officials for the Tablighi Jamaat organization, which the New York Times had described as "a springboard for militancy" and a "recruitment" center for Al-Qaeda.

    Barack Obama has promised change. And as indicated by the public support that his candidacy has received by accused terrorist fundraiser Hatem El-Hady, Obama's version of change that terrorists and their US supporters can believe in.

    http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6203178D-C782-42E2-8D56-765A3D7EDCD7
     
  2. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    ...can't say I didn't warn you...

    Devastating clip:

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    How does anyone expect this guy to win in the fall? Superdelegates, take note.
     
  3. Apollo Creed

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    Hahaha, holy crap that was hilarious. Thanks for the post.
     
  4. TreeRollins

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    Let the man eat his waffle!
     
  5. rimrocker

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    That's it?

    What a letdown.

    This has been floating around the fringes of wingnutdom for awhile. Still, it's to their credit that everyone from LGF to Malkin started pushing this story at the same time. Google the guys name and it's amazing how many entries you get from wingnuts dated April 23.

    But TJ, you keep reading those RNC emails and keep trying, even though you were a few days late here.

    It's quite humorous to the rest of us to see the great Republican attack machine reduced to Chicken Little effectiveness.
     
  6. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    rimrocker, you don't think these ads have been effective? obama's numbers are waaaay down amongst independents, Obama is becoming increasingly irritable on the campaign trail and in debates, he can't close out his race for the nomination, and down-ticket Congressional Republicans are actively using his name in attack ads against their democratic competitors... Uh, yeah, that's quite a change from the halo that he had around him just 6 weeks ago...

    ...and the best news? Republicans haven't even cranked up the full scale attack... I am convinced Barakka Dukkaka will not be able to withstand the onslaught -- how can he? He just has SOOOOOOOO much to attack. Remember the Nixon landslide against McGovern (McGovern, the democrat, won 1 state in the General)? Yeah, that was the entire reason the superdelegate system was put in place -- to guard against the kook fringe wing of the libs electing another McGovern in the primaries. Will the libs wake up in time this primary? Probably not... lovin' it!!!
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Republican SCARE tactics........and they are the ones scared.

    DD
     
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    These right wingers are the scum of the country.
     
  9. The Real Shady

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    "Why can't I just eat my waffle." :D

    I thought the commercial was good at rasing doubts/fear about Obama, but then the "Obama's too busy eating waffles to answer foreign policy questions" makes it lose a lot of credibility. It was funny though.
     
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    LET HIM EAT HIS WAFFLE
     
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    Let the man eat his waffle!
     
  12. bigtexxx

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    The more we find out about Obama, the scarier he gets. This guy isn't anywhere close to being ready to lead the most powerful nation on earth. His connections show an EXTREME lack of judgement. He just whores himself out to whomever is convenient politically at the time.

    he's great in canned speeches, though.
     
  13. Drexlerfan22

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    And the man needs to bump his own thread 17 hours later to keep it from falling too far. Shows how much people care about this issue.

    Thanks for the waffle clip though... that was friggin' hilarious.

    You get another gold star!

    [​IMG]



    Oh, and by the way...

    Do tell, TJ. STILL waiting for you to back that one up with something other than a logical fallacy.
     
  14. jgreen91

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    let the man eat his waffle
     
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    Little did we know, Hamas paid for that precious waffle.
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    didn't hakeem actually do this? He explained he gives to many muslim's and would never give to that group again?
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    There's a life worth living and it's interesting
    There's a calm that's real somewhere
    There's a jungle stream and a band that's playing
    There's a tune worth whistling to

    Don't Be Scared

    You can't see it if you don't believe it
    It's not the kind of thing you can see
    It won't help you out if you forget
    Cause it's not the kind of thing you can remember
    Why must you give yourself a global rating
    Numbers can mess up everything

    Don't Do That

    There's a life worth living and it's interesting
    There's a calm that's real somewhere
    There's a jungle stream and a band that's playing
    There's a tune worth whistling to

    Don't Be Scared
     
  18. bucket

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    When did our entire discourse become so moronic? Or was it always this way?
     
  19. Batman Jones

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  20. Nice Rollin

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    lol
    let the man eat his waffle
     

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