I heard on the radio this morning that Gore....

[HOOP-T]

.......was bussing homeless people to the polls and bribing them to vote for him with a pack of cigarettes. They were being picked up, given a pack of cigs, and told they had to vote for Gore. The funny thing was, there was a catch - they supposedly did not get matches until after they voted for Gore.

I thought this was truly comical! I wonder if it is true, as I cannot find any facts or articles on it yet.

I know R95 commented on it in another thread, but wanted to see if anyone could find anything to support this. Also, how can homeless people vote? I imagine most homeless folks are not registered to do so, and have no address....how does this work? Could it be something with absentee voting?

WEIRD!!!

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[DUDE]

It was reported on FoxNews as being true. The homeless people were picked up in vans, brought in to vote and offered packs of smokes for their votes.
Funny how the Dems seem to be against Tobacco yet are pushing it to get votes. LOL

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[Rocketman95]

Actually, it hasn't been proven that they were official members of the DNC or the Gore campaign. Also, I've been watching pretty much non-stop for the past 24 hours, and they keep saying they have it on tape, yet no one's shown this tape yet.

I'd rather hand out cigs than outrageous amounts of money to those who already have more than they know what to do with.



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[Clutch]

Originally posted by Rocketman95: I'd rather hand out cigs than outrageous amounts of money to those who already have more than they know what to do with.

It's called bribery. Nice spin on it though...

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[Rocketman95]

Originally posted by Clutch: It's called bribery. Nice spin on it though...

You're right Clutch, I just don't see it being any worse than what I mentioned.

But like I also said, there is no proof that these people, if this story is even true, that this was done by anyone in the DNC or Gore campaign. I'm pretty sure that independent people can do whatever they want to get people to vote for their candidate.


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[outlaw]

Gore didn't sponsor or have any knowledge of this act. So please don't pretend that he did.

If we're gonna criticize the actions of candidate supporters now how about that pro-Bush ad condemning diversity in public schools.

[dc sports]

I think the ruling with the people living in the trailer park said that they don't have to have a verifiable permanent address.

The odd thing about this is, that these people would have had to register to vote at least a month ago. So, these "helpers" would have had to help the homeless people register a month ago, then go back and find the same people to vote today.

It seems like an awful lot of trouble to go through just to get a few more votes. It seems like that time and money would be better spent convincing people at a mall, or high school, or doing something else more productive.

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[HOOP-T]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by outlaw:
[B]Gore didn't sponsor or have any knowledge of this act. So please don't pretend that he did.
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They never do!!

As I have said before, I am for neither candidate. I would have made light of this if Bush had done it also.

Did you hear something in response to this, Outlaw, that leads you to believe Gore had no knowledge? I have been digging around a little and still can't find any articles.

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[DUDE]

Outlaw
Please lets not talk about criticizing ads now... There is a HUGE difference between BUYING a vote and airing an ad.

If you still want to talk about that one ad you mentioned, i wonder how you felt about the James Byrd NAACP ad that featured the camera views of being dragged behind a Texas truck, or the Ed Asner phone calls to the seniors in Florida to scare them saying a vote for Bush would END their Social Security now, or the phony woman claiming to live in Houston and saying she couldnt let her children play outside since the air was so polluted.
I dont want to get into anything, but if YOU want to criticize ADS then I think you will end up on the short end of the stick.

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[outlaw]

the campaign worker said she did this totally on her own.
http://www.foxnews.com/elections/110...bacco_gore.sml

i don't have a problem with you mentioning this story but i do have a problem with you implying in your title that Gore was personally responsible for it

dc sports...you don't have to register to vote every year, my voter reg. card is valid from 1-00 to 12-01. maybe these homeless guys were already registered.

[Clutch]

Originally posted by outlaw: Gore didn't sponsor or have any knowledge of this act. So please don't pretend that he did. If we're gonna criticize the actions of candidate supporters now how about that pro-Bush ad condemning diversity in public schools.

outlaw -- I simply said it was bribery. It was a Gore-supporter (RM95) who compared these actions to Bush.

Edit: (My bad! Saw you took issue with the title of the post... not my comments)...

I'm just surprised RM95 hasn't thrown out his theory yet that Bush himself forced the democrats to do this.

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[HOOP-T]

Originally posted by outlaw: the campaign worker said she did this totally on her own. http://www.foxnews.com/elections/110...bacco_gore.sml i don't have a problem with you mentioning this story but i do have a problem with you implying in your title that Gore was personally responsible for it dc sports...you don't have to register to vote every year, my voter reg. card is valid from 1-00 to 12-01. maybe these homeless guys were already registered.

Outlaw, I merely passed the information as it was presented to me by the radio broadcasters this morning on the way to work. I was not implying anything personally, and actually the title says that I heard that Gore had done this.

I personally do not care if he did or if he did not...it is funny regardless.


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[JuanValdez]

It sounds like voter fraud on someone's part, regardless of the particulars. If someone is giving cigarettes in return for promises to vote for Gore, than that's bribery. If the report is completely false, it could still be voter fraud for broadcasting malicious lies about a candidate on election day. If Hoop-T is just making this up, I'm going to call the election commission and turn his butt in.

It's like that email that had gone around telling Republicans to vote on Tuesday and Democrats to vote on Wednesday because of unexpected voter turnout. If they catch who did that, he'll go to jail, no matter how stupid you'd have to be to believe it.


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[HOOP-T]

Juan,
Check the link that Outlaw posted...it is a bonafide occurence. The funny thing is, the homeless voters that were interviewed stated they were going to vote for Gore anyway, even before knowledge of the cigarette bribes!

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[Jeff]

Clutch is right that it is bribery and higly illegal.

Unfortunately, this isn't really that much worse than any of the other vote buying that goes on out there. I mean, how many of us honestly believe that candidates (other than Nader who won't accept contributions) don't accept contributions for favors or that candidates don't buy votes from special interest groups.

It is sad and unfortunate and it is reality. To me, if this is true, it just makes me sick about the whole process even more than before.

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[JuanValdez]

HoopT, I don't consider Fox news a credible source of information. By the way, did anyone see the unscientific poll they had on the side-bar? It was something like 88% Bush!

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[dylan]

Originally posted by Jeff: I mean, how many of us honestly believe that candidates (other than Nader who won't accept contributions) don't accept contributions for favors or that candidates don't buy votes from special interest groups.

Just to make a quick point here (and plug my man one last time) Nader isn't the only unsullied one here. In fact Harry Browne of the Libertarian party qualified for federal matching funds in 1996 but didn't take them out of principle (ie not taking a handout from the govt). Browne's vote also won't be influenced by special interests simply because if it Browne were elected he would have no priviliges to give.

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[Jeff]

Good point, Dylan. I didn't know that.

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[Rocketman95]

Damn, I guess not everyone understands what smilies stand for. I was joking Clutch. I don't think giving cigs is worse, but I'm not comparing the two. One is illegal (if done by an organized campaign), the other isn't.

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[bobrek]

originally posted by dc sports:
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"The odd thing about this is, that these people would have had to register to vote at least a month ago. So, these "helpers" would have had to help the homeless people register a month ago, then go back and find the same people to vote today."
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Keep in mind that in some states (e.g. Minnesota) you can register to vote the same day you vote.

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