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Will any of these players realize their potential this upcoming season???
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Alot of the guys on my list are entering must prove years so Id thought it be interesting to get your guys take on whether these guys are ready to bust out or simply BUSTS in the making.


Andrew Bynum:
-15.4PER in 22MPG(At similar stage: Dwight:17.2)
-Most similar at same age Eddy Curry
-Entering his 3rd year (19 Years old), training with Kareem has paid huge dividends in his progress, enters the season knowing Kobe wants him gone (Good or Bad?)

Per40M Production:
14.2Pts, 10.8Reb, 2.1Ast, .3Stl, 2.9Blks (eFG%.558, TS%.593)


Pros:
-Good low post scorer, potentially great one (73% Offense Inside)
-OK Rebounder/Good defensive
-Good Shot Blocker
-Gifted passer for his age
-Played 1793 minutes after playing 338 the year before

Cons:
-Average Off.Rebounder
-Slightly Turnover prone
-Incredibly foul prone








Dorrel Wright
-12.7PER in 20MPG(At similar stage: Tmac:20.0)
-Most similar at same age Travis Outlaw
-Entering his 4th Year (21 Years old), with the defection of Kapono and the possible departure of James Posey he could be the only true SF left on the team.

Per40M Production:
12.2Pts, 8.4Reb, 2.9Ast, 1.3Stl, 1.4Blks, 2.0T.o. (eFG%.452, TS%.489)


Pros:
-Played 1292 minutes after playing 132 the year before
-Good on ball defender
-Freakish Athletic ability
-Terrific rebounder (4th Highest RebRate among SF's)
-Good shotblocker (0.7 in 19Minutes)

Cons:
- Supposed to be an explosive scorer but ranked among the worst in scoring rate and is among the worst at his position in TS% (75TH of 80) right there with Devean, Jarred Jeffries, Thabo, Diawara, Desmond and other defensive specialist.
- Below Average ballhander/decision maker, though he has improved his TO./Assist Ratio dramatically (Hard feet to accomplish)









Martell Webster
-10.0PER in 22MPG (At similar stage: Ray Allen:14.6)
-Most similar player at same age (DerMar/Joe Johnson)
-Entering his 3rd year (20Years old), on a rebuilding team but one with great potential, with Udoka not yet resigned and Darius never being healthy the only thing stopping him from starter status is another talented youngster in Travis Outlaw. Like many on the list, this could be a make or break year for him.

Per40M Production:
13.2Pts, 5.5Reb, 1.2Ast, .8Stl, .4Blks, 1.7T.o. (eFG%.489, TS%.522)


Pros:
-Good outside shooter
-Plays well off the ball (Ast'd 86% Jumpshots),
-Played 1744 minutes after playing 1069 the year before

Cons:
-When he came into the league I thought he could be like the next Ray Allen or Michael Redd, but unlike great shooting specialist hes not a low turnover/volume shot creator type of scorer.
-And unlike high turnover rate stars he doesnt create well for others suggesting hes not playing within himself.
-Unimpressive FT Shooter
-Presumably a below average defender since each year its whats kept him from holding onto the starting job.
-Average athletic ability







Gerald Green
-12.0PER 22MPG(At similar stage: Kobe:18.9)
-Most similar player at same age (JR Smith)
-Entering his 3rd year (21Years old), hes slightly older than most of the phenoms on the list but hes also the most gifted, being traded to a team with only 1 legit scorer (Al Jefferson) and being surrounded by wing players with even less experience than him leaves the minutes up for grabs. His chances improve if the Twolves continue the youth movement and trade some of their older role players.

Per40M Production:
19.0Pts, 4.7Reb, 1.9Ast, .9Stl, .5Blks, 2.7T.o. (eFG%.484, TS%.521)


Pros:
-Highly skilled shooter/scorer
-Beyond Freakish athletic ability
-Plays well off the ball (Ast'd 76% Jumpshots)
-Played 1779 minutes after playing 374 the year before

Cons:
-Not a great rebounder/defender despite athleticsm
-Raw All-around offensive game, needs to improve his playmaking
-Foul prone







JR Smith
-15.6PER in 23MPG(At similar stage: Q-Rich:17.4)
-Most similar player at same age (Quintin Richardson)
-Entering his 4th year (21Years old), some of you might be wondering why hes on the list given he had a career year last season and is allready a starting caliber player. But I cant be alone in the thought that the kid still has alot of untapped potential. Was hospitalized not too long ago after being ejected from his car in a pretty serious crash but if hes able to bounce back hes got the greenlight from George Karl. Playing alongside a star in Melo should continue to help his game, his skills are tailor made for the Nuggets offense.

Per40M Production:
22.3Pts, 3.9Reb, 2.5Ast, 1.3Stl, .2Blks, 1.3T.o. (eFG%.557, TS%.585)


Pros:
-Explosive scorer/Efficient Shooter
-Has taken over several 4th quarters of a close game, without a doubt the most clutch player on the list
-Plays well off the ball (good compliment alongside Melo)
-Great in transition (47% of his offense came within 10 seconds of the possession)
-Low turnover player

Cons:
-Poor Rebounder (some of that has to do with how Karl wants him to run the break, though he can still stand to improve)
-Not much of a playmaker
-Can be abit streaky and overly dependent on the 3pt line








Marvin Williams
-12.2PER in 34MPG(At similar stage: Luol Deng:15.4)
-Most similar player at same age (Luol Deng/Al Harrington)
-Entering his 3rd year (21Years old), have allready written him off as a bust but thats mostly due to the Hawks passing on Chris Paul/Deron Williams, but the guy is still only 20 years old. Allready a 30+Minutes a night player though he hardly produced like one so you know he'll have ample oppertunities. As a 6"10 combo-forward with great athletic ability he has all the tools to be a star but he could just be another Tim Thomas in the making.

Per40M Production:
15.4Pts, 6.2Reb, 2.2Ast, 1.0Stl, .6Blks, 2.3T.o. (eFG%.441, TS%.510)


Pros:
-GREAT Rebounder


Cons:
-Poor efficiency from the field combined with a high turnover rate make him a poor offensive player
-Bad shooter








MAYBES???



Louis Williams/Kyle Lowry
-14.6PER in 11MPG/18.3 PER in 17MPG
-Limited playing time give no COMPS
-Louis is entering his 3rd year (20Years old)/ Lowry is in his 2nd (20years old) but only played 10 games last year
Both of these guy have rarely played and I rarely see them in action but both have been solid in summer league play or have been talked about by other members as strong prospects. Lowry has to compete with fellow Jerry West draft pick in Conley and Andre Miller is the gauranteed starter in Philly but I just wanted to mention them to see what your thoughts are on them if any.
 
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I'm going to say none of these guys make an impact except JR Smith who already broke out last season before AI showed up. Bynum's potential is overrated, Green's stock has already plummeted, and Webster couldn't finish to save his life...

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I particularly enjoyed the player comparisons. I say Gerald Green raises his numbers the most next year, out of those players. Bynum is not the man he could be, I don't see him growing a pair after Kobe just tore them off.

Martell Webster and Bynum have the most to prove because of what their teams sacraficed to get them.
 
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id have to go with JR smith and Green. hopefully theyll play better next year. i wished we had a chance to draft green when he was available but i remember him being talked about because of his late run after his senior year or something. too bad the rockets weren't high enough to draft him. :/

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jr smith and gerald green
 
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J.R. and Gerald.Bynum is overrated others are in good teams and they can't prove themselves.Rookies are unexperienced.And also I would put Hakeem Warrick there.
 
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Im gonna say Dorrel Wright. He wont post monster stats but hes gonna be really solid and then become better and better.
Most likely to break out is Gerald green. Jr smith is a known story.

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I always forget how young j.r. smith is.

I also go for J.R. and Green

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Louis Williams is still in the league?? Def shoulda went to school.
 
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From my standpoint, Webster needs to step it up this year or I will come close to writing him off.

I still believe Bynum has tremendous upside but his mentality and work ethic are questionable. The jump he made last year from his rookie season was huge. If he steps it up another notch, the doubters will be proven wrong. If not, Mr. Buss will be thrown under the bus if Bynum remains on their team. I want the JO trade to happen because I think Bynum will explode if he leaves Mr. Crankypants (PJ), who's mind and word games were counterproductive.

JR Smith is talented but any team that depends on him being a key starting player will have their heart broken. He's too unstable and is a trainwreck waiting to happen.

Marvin Williams has never impressed me. He's another example of the intoxicating power of athleticism making NBA franchises drool over players who aren't that good.

Gerald Green has been outed. Doesn't have enough game to be an impact player.

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I only take it far because Kobe is so overrated. He has never positively impacted his team despite winning tons of press and accolades.
 
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Green will have a breakout year! He is going to lead that team.

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Green will have a breakout year! He is going to lead that team.
Agree with you. He'll have the best chance to really showcase his stuff on a very bad Wolves team, think him and Jefferson will have very good years but on a very bad team

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I recommend putting your money on the more grounded guys who realize they have something to prove. I'm forever down on guys that enter the league as the new ultra young phenom and carry an entitled attitude without working to earn it.

Bynum reminds me of Eddy Curry and Darius Miles in his work ethic and personality. Definitely not a good thing. I've heard similar things about Gerald Green; where he figures he doesn't need to worry about defense since he's such a stud at the other end.

If these guys treat the game like it gets in the way of their lifestyle (Drew Gooden, Stromile), they'll never fully break out. Mental focus/dedication > talent at this level.

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Agree with you. He'll have the best chance to really showcase his stuff on a very bad Wolves team, think him and Jefferson will have very good years but on a very bad team
It's going to he hard for him to showcase his stuff with Ricky Davis jackin up 25 shots per game.
 
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It's going to he hard for him to showcase his stuff with Ricky Davis jackin up 25 shots per game.
Get the feeling there is going to be a lot of shots being jacked up regardless

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T-Wolves lineup:

Blount - Ratliff - Madsen
Jefferson - Smith - Howard
Davis - Brewer - Gomes
G Green - McCants - Hassell
Foye - Telfair - Jaric

I agree, Ricky Davis is going to be a black hole on this squad. He's playing for a new contract, making it even more worrisome. Al Jefferson is going to have a tough time getting any touches. This team could implode in rapid fashion. I would honestly waive Ricky Davis immediately if I couldn't get a 2nd rounder for him.

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Gerald Green and Martell Webster are my picks from that list.

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I can't say I have a lot of confidence in any of them.

That said JR was absolutely horrible in the playoffs and had off court issues too. Confidence means a lot, and he has a lot of baggage. I woiuld not bet on him.

Green is hard to know, but I'd bet more on Foye if I was betting on a Minnesotta backcourt player.

Wright may get an ideal situation, in an open spot around teammates who make others better. But unlike JR, he hasn't had such a sour May on. So maybe I'd pick him to surprise.
 
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Green and JR should be fine. Add Robert Swift, Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, Sebastian Telfair, and JJ Redick to the list. I expect Redick to have a Luther Head type role under a Van Gundy system. And Swift, if he stays healthy, should get lots of playing time under PJ Carlesimo. Telfair has a lot to prove, and he'll be given a legitimate shot in Minny. Frye has been hyped by Isaiah for a long time. Diogu will get lots of time under O'Brien because he hustles.
Darko Milicic has shown he can play, and under Iavaroni in Memphis and playing next to Pau Gasol, I think the number 2 draft pick will show why he's worth the investment.
 
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Well... you guys pretty much said it all, so I'll just add this. I think most of that list was overrated to begin with. They hype these players so much going into the draft and afterwards... The first thing they do is compare them to other successful NBA players. It's really not fair to them or the fans.

I just find it quite funny that most of the time the people hyping these guys couldn't play in the NBA in the 1940s let alone today.
 

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