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1st - Williams/Belinelli
2nd - Almond
3rd - Use pick in trade

Those are my preferences. Been pushing Belinelli since last year, but our backcourt has come together nicely and he may or may not have minutes right away. Williams would for sure.

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Rudy Fernandez
Marco Belinelli
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Sean Williams
Josh McRoberts

Trade/purchase another first rounder and any combo of those two positions on draft day would be nice.

Acquiring a 2nd and taking PG Bobby Brown or Jared Jordan would be icing on the draft day cake.
 
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I know... Plus, EG's rap sheet at Seton Hall was not nearly as bad as this guy's. Tons of baggage, talent: so-so
Yeah Williams can't rebound. I'm gonna be pissed if we take this guy. IMO he's a risk with the drug problems and not even a good fit.
 
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I think Sean would be good for us. He is athletic he can duck and of course block the shoot. He has to improve in reboundin' and he'll be fine
 
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I would love for the Rockets to pickup Sean Williams and Belinelli come Thursday. Unfortunately, it might take the Rockets to move up to pick Sean Williams and for the Rockets to either move down or pickup 2nd rounder for Belinelli.

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Bellini and Almond would be usefull.
Guys, why do you think Almond is better than Affalo? He'd be a safe pick #26.


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Sean Williams is a bust/mistake waiting to happen.
I'd rather get Fazekas in the 2nd round than pickink SW #26.

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anyone else find it odd that Belinelli doesn't jump on his jumpshots?

will he be able to get away with that in the NBA, or will it cause a forever long shooting slump. This may cause him to work on his form and cause problems down the road. OR it may not, just depending on if he can avoid defenders like Dirk does, who also doesnt get much lift on his jumpers.

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The rumor is Splitter has a costly buyout from his spanish team contract. His contract expires next year, so teams thinking about picking him are more than likely operating under the assumption that they're picking a guy a year away from being stateside. That said, we need someone now, not to mention the potential of an Orlando/Fran Vazquez type debacle is about as appealing as a bout of the clap.
 
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The rumor is Splitter has a costly buyout from his spanish team contract. His contract expires next year, so teams thinking about picking him are more than likely operating under the assumption that they're picking a guy a year away from being stateside. That said, we need someone now, not to mention the potential of an Orlando/Fran Vazquez type debacle is about as appealing as a bout of the clap.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2134
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As reported in the Philadelphia Daily News, Tiago Splitter conducted a telephone interview with the 76ers on Friday. Sources told DraftExpress that Splitter, who as we found out in Athens at the Euroleague Final Four speaks very good English, is also scheduled to interview with the Phoenix Suns and New Jersey Nets this week. A physical that will be supplied to every NBA team was taken in Spain. Splitter is reportedly adamant about joining the NBA team that drafts him this summer, even if his contract calls for him to stay at least one more year in Spain.
It sounds like Splitter is more likely to do a Nocioni than a Vasquez, ie play for practically nothing (all the money going to an expensive buyout) in his first year just to get in the NBA.
 
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Translated to the NBA I see him as a Kyle Korver/Jason Kapono second round player, who's better finishing on the fast break. But in a half court setting, they are all the same.
?? Korver and Kapono better in the break than in the half-court? As strong and deep as the 2003 draft was, I can still think of a number of teams in the first round (and second round for that matter) who would have taken Korver much earlier in retrospect.

But if you can get a Korver in the 2nd round, even better!
 
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I'm happy with either one of those guys or Almond.

Lets just hope Williams = Eddie Griffin... All he has yet to do is jack off in the car.
Why would you hope that? E.G. is not the only one fooling around with his pocket rocket -- see Alan Houston.

Speaking of Eddie, he is available, in Houston and would be inexpensive. If he doesn't go to jail, he does (or did) have the skill set we need.

Sean Williams will go much earlier in the draft so I'm thinking the Rockets will pick up Nick Fazekas.

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Why would you hope that? E.G. is not the only one fooling around with his pocket rocket -- see Alan Houston.

just sounds funny considering your handle...still, when did AH get in trouble?


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Speaking of Eddie, he is available, in Houston and would be inexpensive. If he doesn't go to jail, he does (or did) have the skill set we need.

how does this NOT sound off bells in your head??? you can't hear the caution alarm?

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Sean Williams will go much earlier in the draft so I'm thinking the Rockets will pick up Nick Fazekas.
i hope you are right about williams. i don't want us having the opportunity to pick up another slacking weedhead.

sean williams = keon clark.

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Like Sean Williams, however, I don't like th weed habit, no jumper (Yao is clogging up the paint), and back home in Houston way too much to get into. Another Vmax waiting to happen.

I like Big Baby more because he has only 1 concern - over eating - ala his alum John "Hot Plate" Williams

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just sounds funny considering your handle...still, when did AH get in trouble? how does this NOT sound off bells in your head??? you can't hear the caution alarm? i hope you are right about williams. i don't want us having the opportunity to pick up another slacking weedhead.

sean williams = keon clark.
My error -- it was Byron Houston:

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nat...houston_e.html

Byron Houston exposed to problems

By now fans have heard of the problem Byron Houston got himself into in Oklahoma City: Arrested for indecent exposure the other night. This constitutes his fourth arrest on this charge (NewsOK.com).

13505676 Troubled former basketball star Byron Houston told police he fears he'll end up in prison because of his arrest for indecent exposure Wednesday in Oklahoma City, according to a police report released Friday.

Houston, 37, was arrested after a woman told police she saw him masturbating in his vehicle during afternoon rush hour traffic. It is the fourth time he's been arrested for indecent exposure.

He pleaded guilty to indecent exposure charges in 2003, but hasn't been charged in connection with Wednesday's arrest. Judge Ray Elliott sent Houston to treatment instead of prison for the 2003 conviction, and Houston remains on probation.

Second: Eddie had no family in Houston, and Sean Williams does. Williams already is working with John Lucas II on his weed problems -- which are not nearly as devastating as E.G.'s psychological problems. Considering the high reward, I'd take the risk at #26 (and acquire a FA power forward).

Third: I have no realistic hope that Eddie can ever cope with the psychological issues associated with the NBA. But his skill set is what we need, so wouldn't a miracle be nice?

Fourth:
I still rate an occasional "thumbs up" and sometimes I have to live with an occasional "thumbs down." But my handle iin this regard is a non-issue, a hands-off policy if you will. :D

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Here is the ESPN latest mock
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...kDraft-070625b

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Nick Fazekas
Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 225
Age: 22
School: Nevada

(Fazekas' previous position: Not in first round)

The skinny: Rockets GM Daryl Morey is a stats guy and Fazekas ranks very high on various sabermetric equations. They also need a power forward and a shooter ... making Fazekas an obvious pick.

I'd be disappointed if he was our pick. His shot looks ok, but he dosent look very strong or athletic.

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Fazekas = another Van Horn. A 3 or weak 4. We already have a shooter to gamble on at the four from the last draft.

On Williams....If he has that much skill and his baggage is blown out of proportion then he will not be around at 26. remeber Griffin, who had #1 pick talent by all accounts then, went as a top pick. He did not slide like Williams is projected to do. If Williams has top ten upside then he will go in the the top part of the draft.

Hell there are a lot of guys in the NBA who smoke weed and play, Camby, Francis, Cassell, Marbury, Garnett, Mobley and Odom, are just a few who have looked a little red and glassy around the eyes while on the court over the years that I have seen.
 
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thumbs,

i didn't realize williams was working with lukie. that is a very good sign. as for bryon houston...



wtf?? arrested four times for the same offense? do they not have adult video megaplexes in oklahoma?

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Fazekas = another Van Horn. A 3 or weak 4. We already have a shooter to gamble on at the four from the last draft.

On Williams....If he has that much skill and his baggage is blown out of proportion then he will not be around at 26. remeber Griffin, who had #1 pick talent by all accounts then, went as a top pick. He did not slide like Williams is projected to do. If Williams has top ten upside then he will go in the the top part of the draft.

Hell there are a lot of guys in the NBA who smoke weed and play, Camby, Francis, Cassell, Marbury, Garnett, Mobley and Odom, are just a few who have looked a little red and glassy around the eyes while on the court over the years that I have seen.
Fazekas <> Van Horn
He has all the skills of Van Horn but he is a much more active competitive guy and will work to make a difference in whatever way he can contribute. This guy is a lot more atheltic than he looks and has always been a winner where-ever he has played.

Fazekas may be a stretch at 26 but we could do a LOT worse. (Sean Williams )

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Man anyone else feeling the anticipation as much as i am? i wish the draft was today!
 
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sean williams is a risk.

i would not use tradable assets to move up in order to draft him, but if he fell into our lap at 26 it's worth a roll of the dice.

as for belineli, he could be usefull but we have novak. i'd rather novak get some minutes this year while keeping bonzi at the 2 and james at the 1.

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