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HEADS UP: ESPN - 1st and 10: "Rockets: Better without Yao?"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CharlieMurphy, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. CharlieMurphy

    CharlieMurphy Member

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    Heads up, just in a little bit on ESPN's "1st and 10", they're about to debate whether the Rockets are better without Yao. It's gonna be pretty interesting to hear their opinions. I'll post what they say after they're through.

    BTW: This is my first post since becoming a member a few days ago...THANKS CLUTCH!
     
  2. GRENDEL

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    They are doing that again on 1st and 10? they did that topic a few weeks back if I remember correctly
     
  3. m_cable

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    Countdown till Skip Bayliss says something moronic and infuriating:

    10, 9, 8...
     
  4. Coob5

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    Crap, I only caught Greg Anthony's argument, which was very good. What did the other guy say?
     
  5. VicVictory

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    Haha, Greg Anthony just shat in the face of Skip Bayless. Greg basically said what all Rockets fans would say when Skip says, "The Rockets are better off without Yao".
     
  6. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    That was r****ded. Greg Anthony was right, but his debating skills suck. "I have 45 GM friends who say otherwise."

    There aren't 45 GM's you douche.
     
  7. VicVictory

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    LOL, you heard him wrong. He said 25.
     
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    He could be talking about those who used to be GMs, though, as well as the existing ones.
     
  9. CharlieMurphy

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    Pretty much Skip Bayless said that, "yes, they are" because they have better chemistry without Yao. T-Mac and Yao "competes" for shot where as Deke is only in there for defensive purposes so he doesn't take away any shots for T-Mac. Also said that two of his GM friends think the Rockets are better off without him.

    Greg Anthony on the other hand said that Skip Bayless was crazy and had no basketball intelligence. Argued that the Rockets cannot be better without the best center in the game. Talked about how T-Mac has been playing phenomenal since Yao went out and how he's played more like a "small foward." Mentioned how he hasn't been able to take the Rockets out of the 1st round. And that they only way they were going to do so was if the Rockets can somehow incorporate T-Mac and Yao together to win.
     
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    Bayless compared Yao to KG in that he looks to play more on the perimeter and has too much of a "small forward mentality".

    .....unbelievable!!! :rolleyes:

    Greg Anthony replied to Bayless, "Your lack of NBA knowledge is amusing." He then argued that how could any basketball team be better without the best center in the league? He said that he felt our current squad without Yao probably couldn't get out of the first round.
     
  11. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Regardless, he was pulling stuff out of his ass. He didn't talk to 25 people about that particular topic. Skip was claiming to have actually discussed that with two different GM's. Plus, that crap Greg Anthony said about hypocrisy didn't even make sense. Yeah, Skip Bayless was being stupid but what exactly was hypocritical about it?

    That debate was painful for me to watch. I feel like a part of my intellect died.
     
  12. pariah

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    andd that's why I would trade yao for Kobe and bynum.












    not. I'm kidding - really, I am.
     
  13. agentkirb

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    Skip Bayless is a douchebag. His logic baffles me sometimes. I remember yesterday he mentioned how Nash has done things with the ball that he hasn't seen anyone do, to which GA replied "He hasn't won a championship". BURNED!!!

    I was a bit surprised GA was able to name off a couple of members of the Rockets lineup. Usually you only know the stars, and even then only on the good teams. Like I couldn't name the starting lineups of half the teams in the NBA unless we just played them, and even then probably not.
     
  14. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    This is an accurate summary in essence, but it leaves the impression that they actually had an intelligent debate. They didn't. Skip Bayless put thought into his argument but his argument was stupid. Greg Anthony was right, but just completely pulled stuff out of his ass.

    As I said, Skip Bayless actually seemed to have put in some time talking to people like GM's about the situation before making his absolutely asinine argument. Greg Anthony, on the other hand, threw out wild stuff like "You talked to two GM's? OH YEAH! Well then I talked to 25 and they agree with me and do you know what else? You're a hypocrite!"

    Plus, Bayless was right about the fact that Yao and T-Mac do tend to take shots away from each other. What did Greg Anthony say about that? He basically refused to acknowledge there was any truth in it and instead claimed that the guys who need to quit taking Yao and T-Mac's shots are Rafer Alston, Shane Battier and Luther Head. Ok, no argument from me on Rafer. However, Shane Battier? Are you kidding me? He doesn't demand any shots at all. He takes what the offense gives him and nothing more. Luther occasionally takes an ill advised shot, but the bulk of the shots Luther Head takes are completely essential to our offense. When T-Mac or Yao draw the double team, guys like Luther, Battier and Skip HAVE to make them pay by hitting the open shot. By not acknowledging that fact, Greg Anthony basically argues that nobody but Yao and T-Mac should be allowed to shoot. Awesome. I'm sure that'll work.

    You know, the more I think about it, Greg Anthony isn't even right. He's just less wrong.
     
  15. johnrox

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    you don't HAVE to talk to 25 people. the point is, rox are better without yao is a ridiculous statement whether any GM believes it or not. if a GM does believe that, then you and everyone in here should be glad he isn't the GM of the rox.
     
  16. VicVictory

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    I think he said that because Skips says the Heat are better with Shaq, but also feels that the Rockets are better without Yao. So I'm guessing Greg feels Skip is being a hypocrite because if the Heat were winning games, he'd say they would be better without Shaq. :confused:
     
  17. candlegreen

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    ... what he said sounded more like a matter of speech to me.... What he's saying is that ANY GM would be stupid to think that their team is better without Yao. Literal too much?
     
  18. TeamUSA

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    One guy said that Yao is occupying more space on the floor that makes our offense less effective.

    What a bull!

    The only problem with Yao doing the inside-out play when he's posting is when he passes the ball. It's either in the money or out of the money. One reason why we have lesser turn-over is that our post up play we use Battier, Juwan or tmac, who are better in passing the ball and taking care of it. Yao on the other hand has been struggling in that aspect. I said this already in a differnt thread.

    Yao attracts a double team that's why he has to be extra careful when passing the ball to the open man.

    I don't see Yao and Tmac competing.. Tmac was getting less shots cuz he's been passing it to Yao more often cuz he believes that Yao's shot has a higher percentage than his, this was the time when he was struggling with his back problem. I think now it's going to be a more balance offense. And if they continue to do their pick n roll, same play they were doing during the playoff's against the Mavs, we're a scoring machine, that's an unstoppable play when executed properly.
     
  19. johnrox

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    right about what? how do tmac and yao take away from each other?
    why do YOU believe that is a good assessment?

    i dunno what you are trying to argue for, bayless is an idiot or anthony is an idiot or bayless makes some good points???
     
  20. CharlieMurphy

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    Bayless was NOT right, they do NOT compete for shots. We all know that they're both unselfish player, they could care less if they score zip...just as long as they get the W. They just go for whichever one has a better opportunity to score, and let's face it...most of the time it's Yao. Seriously, no center can't stop him, that's why JVG emphasizes him being the number one option. I believe we'll continue force feeding Yao when he's back 100%, and if somehow the other team can stop him, we'll switch to allowing T-Mac to be the playmaker.
     

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