So um...apparently FF7 Crisis Core for the PSP isn't Vaporware.

RC Cola · 12-02-2006, 01:44 AM

TGS Trailer for Final Fantasy 7: Crisis Core for the PSP:

WMV download:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VU68XBP6

I thought this game had joined GT:Portable and DMC Portable in the PSP vaporware category, but I guess not. The trailer looks amazing. Need a little more footage to get an idea of what the battle system is like though...seems like a customized Kingdom Hearts engine or something. Gameplay looked OK based on what little was shown (hopefully not any worse than FF7: DoC).

This probably didn't deserve a thread, but the trailer kind of brought out the FF(7) fanboy in me, so I had to post it.

To make up for that, here's a scan of FFXII RW for the DS:

There is a show going on in Japan next week I believe, and Square-Enix will be showing off some new stuff, including new trailers for FFXIII and Final Fantasy vs XIII (or whatever the name of that game is...we never even saw the first trailer). Guess that explains some of the new media they're putting out.

Outlier · 12-02-2006, 01:47 AM

I thought the FF7 remake was just a rumor and proven false?

And what's vaporware?

RC Cola · 12-02-2006, 01:57 AM

I was just messing around with the remake comment. Don't know if was proven 100% false (hard to really do that since SE would like to keep this a secret I imagine), but most of the stuff about it is from rumors and message boards, not SE. I don't even think there is a team available at SE to work on the project, at least not for another few years.

Vaporware:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
I was basically saying that I thought SE just announced the game, but never actually had any plans to release it. This game was announced more than 2 years ago IIRC, and SE had yet to really show anything from the game or even really give it much of a push. So I assumed they just canceled the project, especially with the DS doing crazy things and the PSP doing not-so-crazy things.

deadlybulb · 12-02-2006, 02:13 AM

This is good news. I hope It's not a shooter, though.

I've been waiting for Square to release a really good RPG exclusive for PSP. I just finished Valkyrie Profile. I'd never even heard of it before it was ported to PSP. Very fun game.

omair · 12-02-2006, 02:15 AM

Man that looks good, enough to force me to buy a psp?

Im gonna have to "borrow" my lil brothers DS this summer

A remake for ff7 would be the awesome

Outlier · 12-02-2006, 02:16 AM

This and BOF3 makes me want to have a PSP. The DS right now just doesn't cut it with me with its RPG's... Yea I know I haven't tried FF3 yet but still.

Outlier · 12-02-2006, 02:33 AM

Hey RC, this is a little off-topic, but I want you to check this out:

http://www.bluedragon.tv/

Check out the trailer... man does that RPG look AWESOME or what??? I might consider getting a 360 now after watching that.

RC Cola · 12-02-2006, 02:49 AM

Yeah, Blue Dragon does seem impressive (although I knew that before watching their newest trailer

). For some reason, I kind of like Trusty Bell a little more based on what I've seen (mostly just footage from TGS), but those 2 games along with Lost Odyssey (which was a bit disappointing at TGS IMO, but understandable given the early state of the game) should give the 360 a library with some nice RPGs. Much better than what the Xbox had, that's for sure.

I do want to say that I hope you can turn off that annoying voice in Blue Dragon. That sounded terrible.

Rokkit · 12-02-2006, 12:32 PM

After Dirge Of Cerberus, it's a little hard to get excited for any of the FF7 'spinoffs', PSP DS or otherwise.

But the final fantasy fanboys will still buy 'em.

RC Cola · 12-02-2006, 12:55 PM

Yeah, that's my biggest worry. I'm hopeful that DoC was bad mostly because SE was trying to make it a shooter instead of something they're actually good at (is any Japanese developer even good at making shooters?). For CC, if they just ported over the KH battle engine and made a few customizations (making it work better on the PSP), I'd probably be happy with that.

CriscoKidd · 12-02-2006, 12:59 PM

Ehrgeiz!!!!!

RC Cola · 12-03-2006, 11:51 PM

Sorry to bring this back, but I found a translation of the video (from TGS...must have missed it...though I probably didn't care w/o a video):
http://www.adventchildren.net/fullst...from=&ucat=37&
(spoiler in case you don't want to read it...for some reason)

Quote:

[General Information]

- The release date has been pushed back to 2007.
- The new tagline is, "Men who shed tears for their own fate, and for their friends."

[Scene 01]

- The Shinra building (without the Sister Ray) comes into view as the song "Blasting Mission" plays.

[μ]-εγλ 2000
Seven years before Final Fantasy VII

- A single helicopter appears in the sky over a running train.
- The voice of a man who seems to be a superior officer is heard.

"Advance on the train in two squads."
"Quickly get into position, and recapture the train."

- The man inside the helicopter is Zack.
- With a smile, he springs towards the train.
- Zack (with improved facial graphics) jumps down and lands on the train.
- He then slowly raises his upper body.

[Scene 02]

Zack: "I, I want to help a friend."
Zack: "But I don't know how I should do it."

Aerith: "Do what?"

Zack: "Are you an angel...?"

- Zack wakes up.
- Aerith points up to where the light is shining down from and speaks.

Aerith: "No, I'm Aerith."
Aerith: "You, uh, fell down."
Aerith: "Surprise!"

- Zack looks back at her.

Zack: "I'm Zack."

- She is wearing a white dress similair to the one in BC, but her ribbon is sky blue.
- It seems that Zack has fallen into the church.
- (Counting Cloud and the player in BC, this is the third time someone's fallen through her ceiling.)

[Scene 03]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Zack is asking Angeal about his sword.*

Angeal: "If you want to become 1st, you have a dream."

- Zack arrives near Angeal and kneels, then asks him a question.

Zack: "I've never seen you wield that sword."
Zack: "If you only use it for magic, isn't that wasteful?"

Angeal: "If I wield it, then it'll get scratched up, worn out, and dirty."
Angeal: "That would be a bigger waste."

[Scene 04]

- *This is the scene where Tseng talks to Zack about his salary.*

Zack: "Tch, do the Turks really do that?"

- Tseng keeps walking, several steps ahead of Zack.

Tseng: "Don't worry about it. Thanks to you, my salary is better."

Zack: "Are you serious!?"

[Scene 05]

Zack: "I've got to do something to show my gratitude."

- Zack crosses his arms, then turns to Aerith and leans in.

Aerith: "No, no, it's fine."

Zack: "One date, what do you say?"

- Zack points up his index finger and proposes it.

Aerith: "What's that?"

- Aerith smiles wryly.

Aerith: "You're so lame."

- (Not said in an angry way, she's joking.)

[Scene 06]

- Shinra troops (all wearing helmets) assemble as Zack paces in front of them.
- He stops in front of one troop.
- The troop corrects his posture.
- He places his hand on the troop's shoulder, who breaks from the group (as if the touch were an order).

Zack: "So, you wanna be in SOLDIER? Hang in there."

- *Zack's hair in this scene is the same as it was in FFVII.*

[Scene 07]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Angeal says Sephiroth is calling.*
- Angeal walks, advancing a few steps ahead of Zack.

Angeal: "Sephiroth is calling."

- Zack turns around, surprised.

Zack: "Sephiroth? The hero!?"

[Scene 08]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Sephiroth talks to Zack about Angeal.*
- Zack and Sephiroth are standing back to back as they speak.

Sephiroth: "We crept into the 2nd's department and hung out there, Angeal, Genesis and I."

Zack: "You all get along well, huh?"

Sephiroth: "Heh, you'd think so."

- Sephiroth smiles wryly. (He says this in a light-hearted, joking way.)

[Scene 09]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Zack and Tseng talk about their target.*
- Zack and Tseng spy on a private house from atop a cliff.

Tseng: "Originally, Sephiroth was supposed to come along on this mission... That's what I meant."

Zack: "Either recover it immediately, or destroy it."

[Scene 10]

- *Continuation of Scene 08.*

Sephiroth: "After that, Angeal preached to me for awhile."

Zack: "About what?"

- Sephiroth looks back at Zack over his shoulder.

Sephiroth: "Same as always."
Sephiroth: "Attitude, dreams, aspirations."
Sephiroth: "That sort of thing."

[Scene 11]

- Zack is being jolted around in the back of a yellow truck.
- He's got a cross-shaped scar on his cheek.

Zack: "I wouldn't leave you hangin'."
Zack: "We're friends, right?"

- The truck drives on through the peaceful scenery at a liesurely pace.
- *Zack's hair in this scene is the same as it was in FFVII.*

[Scene 12]

- Aerith speaks while looking up at the hole that the light is shining through.

Aerith: "If that's the upper city, the sky can't be far."
Aerith: "I wonder, little flowers... are you happy?"

- A sobbing voice is heard.
- Aerith turns around to Zack.
- Zack's back is turned to Aerith, and he's sitting cross-legged, crying.
- Aerith gently wraps her arms around Zack from behind, embracing him.

[Scene 13]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Zack and Angeal are standing back to back.*

Angeal: "Zack, fight with me."
Angeal: "Our enemies are all those who torment the Planet."

- A single white feather flutters to the ground, where a red shadow is cast.

[Scene 14]

- *This is the scene from the screenshots where Sephiroth and Zack are fighting.*
- Sephiroth's swordplay overwhelms Zack.

Zack: "Wh, why..."

- Zack somehow manages to defend against the attack.

Sephiroth: "It's over."

Zack: "I... I'll become a hero!"

[Scene 15]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Zack faces Bahamut.*
- Zack is running, holding his sword in his right hand and a mobile phone in his left."

Zack: "Aerith? I'll have to call you back later."
Zack: "I've got company."

- Bahamut rushes from behind Zack and cuts him off.
- Zack slips the phone into his pocket and readies his sword.

Zack: "Hey, don't leave yet, the party's just gettin' started!"

[Scene 16]

- *This is the scene from the screenshot where Zack talks about "Project G."*
- Sephiroth is listening with a serious look on his face.

Zack: "'Project G'..."

Sephiroth: "'Project Genesis'."

[Scene 17]

- *Continuation of Scene 13.*

Zack: "It's different, but wings aren't proof of a monster."

Angeal: "Then, what are these?"

- Two white wings sprout from Angeal's back on his right side and unfold.

Zack: "The wings of an angel."

- A white feather flies out and flutters about, which Zack catches in his hand.
- Angeal looks skyward, spreading his wings and shouting.

Angeal: "... If that's so, what kind of purpose does an angel have?"
Angeal: "What kind of dream should I have!?"

[Scene 18]

- G is sitting down beside a window.

G: "Feh... You're like a noisy puppy, Zack."

- Zack fixes a stare at him, and Tseng runs up to Zack's side.

G: "Two people have continued to betray me..."

- G stands up.

G: "Ever since the time I left that house."
G: "That dog of Shinra, he understands!"

- Fire shoots towards Zack.

[Battle Scenes]

- Something like Cait Sith's "Slot" limit break from FFVII appears on the upper left of the screen.
- The confirmed reels so far are: Angeal, Cloud, Turk (Katana), a female Turk, and the flowers from Aerith's church.
- The sword combat effects aren't like the pretty effects in KH, but more like the ones from DC.
- However, that is not to say combat is anything like DC.
- The basic camera angle feels like KH's, but a bit higher overhead (though it might have just been the scene).

[Summoned Beasts]

- Two summoned beasts were seen, Ifrit and Bahamut, but it's unknown if they'll be enemies or allies.

Thanks to Suzaku and AdventChildren.net

**Jeff** · 12-04-2006, 12:48 AM

Nerd alert!!!

Mr Boo · 12-04-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

Nerd alert!!!

Haha!

I thought that CC was going to be based on the Turks, namely they're the main characters...anyways, RC's trailer really did peak my GF's interest now, but I am a bit wary on it TBH...in alot of ways, I feel like SE is really milking FF7 dry, and I kinda do worry about the quality of CC...here's hoping for the best...thanks for the scoop RC.

SWTsig · 12-04-2006, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff

Nerd alert!!!

ha! i was about so post the exact same thing.

RC Cola · 12-04-2006, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Boo

I thought that CC was going to be based on the Turks, namely they're the main characters...anyways, RC's trailer really did peak my GF's interest now, but I am a bit wary on it TBH...in alot of ways, I feel like SE is really milking FF7 dry, and I kinda do worry about the quality of CC...here's hoping for the best...thanks for the scoop RC.

There was FF7 Before Crisis (BC), a cellphone game that was about the Turks. Not sure if that got you thinking CC would be about the Turks...

SE is probably milking FF7 too much. For some reason though, I still want to see a FF7 remake (or some new project, maybe a sequel to the movie or something), even though I know it will fail to live up to expectations, adding even more tarnish to the FF7 name.

I was originally worried that I would have little interest in playing CC since I didn't care that much about Zack or the events that led up to FF7. But that trailer did grab my interest, something I didn't quite expect (I've had little interest in the FF7 spin-offs except for the movie). Still doesn't mean the game will be any good though. I've also read that this might be a multi-disc game, which could be pretty annoying on a portable.

Mr Boo · 12-04-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC Cola

There was FF7 Before Crisis (BC), a cellphone game that was about the Turks. Not sure if that got you thinking CC would be about the Turks...

SE is probably milking FF7 too much. For some reason though, I still want to see a FF7 remake (or some new project, maybe a sequel to the movie or something), even though I know it will fail to live up to expectations, adding even more tarnish to the FF7 name.

I was originally worried that I would have little interest in playing CC since I didn't care that much about Zack or the events that led up to FF7. But that trailer did grab my interest, something I didn't quite expect (I've had little interest in the FF7 spin-offs except for the movie). Still doesn't mean the game will be any good though. I've also read that this might be a multi-disc game, which could be pretty annoying on a portable.

You're right, I got Before Crisis mixed up with it...too many FF spinoffs (FFX-2, FF12 RW, FF7 AC, CC, BC, FFXIII, FFXIII VS, FFXIII Agito, FFXIII Haeresis (rumor))! A total remake in FF7 would definitely be something I would get without hesistation...better yet, a PS3 remake of FF6 would be that much better for me personally. Once you finally have the time to buy it and play it, I'd be interested to see how you like/dislike FF12, RC.

RC Cola · 12-04-2006, 06:45 PM

Yeah, SE is really starting to milk the FF name. I remember not that long ago that the sheer idea of 2 FF games occurring in the same "universe" (basically a sequel or spin-off) was absurd. That's why I always disregarded the possibility of a new project based on FF7 (either remake, sequel, spin-off, etc.). Ever since X-2 though, it seems like that is no longer an issue for SE. So they might as well remake FF7.

I'd actually like a FF6 remake too...perhaps even more so than a FF7 remake. They're my 2 favorite FFs (up to 10 anyway), and since FF7 has been getting a lot of attention, it would be nice if FF6 did too. I saw a recreation of the Opera scene in FF6 using FFXI. It was pretty awesome IMO...not sure if it was because of the 3D world or what, but I really enjoyed it. I imagine I'd get a similar feeling if SE put in the effort to remake FF6.

I actually bought FFXII already. I preordered it through ebgames.com, so technically I bought it when it came out on October 30th. I had it sent to my parents house so I wouldn't be distracted during these last few weeks of the semester. Two weeks or so from now, I'll be able to focus on the world of Ivalice (once again). But until then, I must stay focused on my schoolwork (one more reason to hate Calculus

).

Mr Boo · 12-08-2006, 04:11 PM

For those interested, you can now find a FF Versus XIII trailer here:
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/index.p..._from=&ucat=3&

It seems like Blue Dragon was pretty well recieved in Japan. IIRC, I read there were about 200 or so lined outside a shop this morning to purchase Blue Dragon or a Blue Dragon + 360 Bundle. It also scored a 37 or 38 out of 40 from Famitsu.

RC Cola · 04:35 PM

OT, but I'd like to mention that Famitsu is a bad source for reviews. It isn't really clear why though. I was using their reviews not that long ago, although from now on, I probably won't.

Basically, Famitsu allows a publisher to decide how they rate a game. I forget the exact process, but if a publisher doesn't like what Famitsu has planned for a review, they can work out a deal. Famitsu will get exclusive info/media from that publisher (as well as some $$$ if need be), while Famitsu will be a little easier on the game being reviewed. This explains why DOA Xtreme 2 was getting like a 34/40 (IIRC) over there. Famitsu always gets amazing exclusives too, which I guess is also partially explained by this.

That's not to discredit Blue Dragon (or any other games that Famitsu gave high scores for that matter). From the impressions I've read and what I've seen from the game, it seem like a great JRPG and probably deserving of the score it got from Famitsu.