[The Times]Jesus 'denied he was son of God'

Azadre · 04-09-2006, 12:45 PM

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A HOLY war between writers is switching from the High Court to the bookshelves.
One of the authors who last week failed to win a plagiarism case against Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code has written a new book just in time for Easter to question the very tenets of the Christian faith.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...125660,00.html

My personal belief is that Jesus was not the son of God, but I did not think ANY Christians held that belief.

DaDakota · 04-09-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Azadre

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...125660,00.html

My personal belief is that Jesus was not the son of God, but I did not think ANY Christians held that belief.

We are all son's and daughters of god.

DD

boomer83 · 04-09-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaDakota

We are all son's and daughters of god.

DD

No, we are his servants.

And Jesus (Isa) was a messenger of God, one of many I might add.

Good Day.

basso · 04-09-2006, 05:52 PM

was jesus lying?

reggietodd · 04-09-2006, 06:00 PM

I heard they found the receipt from the last supper and Jesus stiffed the waitress.

tigermission1 · 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reggietodd

I heard they found the receipt from the last supper and Jesus stiffed the waitress.

LMAO! Good one :D

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Originally Posted by basso

was jesus lying?

No, not at all.

The point of contention is this: Did Jesus (pbuh) claim he was the son of God? Obviously, the majority of Christians (I was under the impression that all of Christians subscribed to this) believe that he indeed was, and that he did claim to be the son of God; Islam views that claim as a 'falsehood' attributed to Jesus Christ.

No Worries · 07:51 PM

Here Jesus is talking to himself or perhaps his divinity was unknown to himself (kinda hard for someone who is all knowing

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Originally Posted by Mark 15:34

And at the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, "Eloi Eloi lema sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, my God, for what have you forsaken me?"

Add in John The Baptist baptising Jesus when He was without sin and we need a Theological Cleanup on Ailse 12.

bigtexxx · 04-09-2006, 07:39 PM

Wasn't Mohammad illiterate? Just curious.

CreepyFloyd · 04-09-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtexxx

Wasn't Mohammad illiterate? Just curious.

During the Prophet's time the society and culture was an oral one....nothing was written and people would memorize everything and transmit everything orally....so nobody could read and write, because it wasnt necessary

I don't think Jesus was God's son either

Islam recognizes the unity of God and doesn't attach any human traits or characteristics to God, thus, Muhammad was a man and Jesus was simply a man even though they were both prophets

hope this helps

CreepyFloyd · 04-09-2006, 07:56 PM

I'm curious as well....was Jesus illiterate or not?

xlr817 · 04-09-2006, 09:16 PM

Hey this is Palm Sunday & it's very disrespectful to take take CHEAP shots at Jesus Christ during this important time of the year for Catholics! The timing is really wonderful!

Please be respectful, you can question about the validity of Christ, that's your right ,but to disrespect him outright without facts is just stupid! I would'nt disrespect your profit Mohammed at any time, but the majority of you muslims, jews, or non believer just seem to enjoy this! Please be civil. I notice if some posters here, call your profit Mohammed a pedophille ,crook ,or womanizer you'll be at an uproar in a second!

CreepyFloyd · 04-09-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xlr817

Hey this is Palm Sunday & it's very disrespectful to take take CHEAP shots at Jesus Christ during this important time of the year for Catholics! The timing is really wonderful!

Please be respectful, you can question about the validity of Christ, that's your right ,but to disrespect him outright without facts is just stupid! I would'nt disrespect your profit Mohammed at any time, but the majority of you muslims, jews, or non believer just seem to enjoy this! Please be civil. I notice if some posters here, call your profit Mohammed a pedophille ,crook ,or womanizer you'll be at an uproar in a second!

lol @ the "profit" Mohammed

i think you need to gain a better command of the english language and grammar

Azadre · 04-09-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xlr817

Hey this is Palm Sunday & it's very disrespectful to take take CHEAP shots at Jesus Christ during this important time of the year for Catholics! The timing is really wonderful!

Please be respectful, you can question about the validity of Christ, that's your right ,but to disrespect him outright without facts is just stupid! I would'nt disrespect your profit Mohammed at any time, but the majority of you muslims, jews, or non believer just seem to enjoy this! Please be civil. I notice if some posters here, call your profit Mohammed a pedophille ,crook ,or womanizer you'll be at an uproar in a second!

I am not insulting Jesus at all. I am just quoting a story about a Christian author.

xlr817 · 04-09-2006, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CreepyFloyd

lol @ the "profit" Mohammed

i think you need to gain a better command of the english language and grammar

I think you need to know it was on purpose to see you is paying attention! Apparently you were, & my command of English is just fine! I must strike a chord wit you! GOOD! I GOT your attention! I was wondering how long would it take.

Azadre · 04-09-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xlr817

I think you need to know it was on purpose to see you is paying attention! Apparently you were, & my command of English is just fine! I must strike a chord wit you! GOOD! I GOT your attention! I was wondering how long would it take.

Is English your second language? If so, I will give you a break on your syntax and grammar, otherwise you should take a crash course on composition.

xlr817 · 04-09-2006, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Azadre

I am not insulting Jesus at all. I am just quoting a story about a Christian author.

I was not directing this at you Azarde, your one of the most respected posters here! Like I said I don't mind people debating the validity of Christ, I too think of this at times!But Not to belittle someone who millions around the world believes. That's all! The "profit" thing was just a bait not to disrespect Mohammed, who I respect, along with other religeous figures.

xlr817 · 04-09-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Azadre

Is English your second language? If so, I will give you a break on your syntax and grammar, otherwise you should take a crash course on composition.

Sadly, I was not meant to be writer as my wife tells me, & sometimes corrects me with my English grammer @ times ( the sad part she's only been here in the States for 6 yrs, & her English is better than alot of people here). I wasn't born in the States but lived here for over 30 yrs.

bigtexxx · 04-09-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xlr817

Hey this is Palm Sunday & it's very disrespectful to take take CHEAP shots at Jesus Christ during this important time of the year for Catholics! The timing is really wonderful!

Please be respectful, you can question about the validity of Christ, that's your right ,but to disrespect him outright without facts is just stupid! I would'nt disrespect your profit Mohammed at any time, but the majority of you muslims, jews, or non believer just seem to enjoy this! Please be civil. I notice if some posters here, call your profit Mohammed a pedophille ,crook ,or womanizer you'll be at an uproar in a second!

I wouldn't let Azadre get under your skin. He's obviously embarrassed by the shame that his "brothers" around the world have been heaping upon his religion, so he decides to fight back with an immature thread such as this one. In case you didn't know, the timesonline is of the same ilk as The Guardian or any other America-hating source. Not worth getting worked up about, that's for sure.

xlr817 · 04-09-2006, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtexxx

I wouldn't let Azadre get under your skin. He's obviously embarrassed by the shame that his "brothers" around the world have been heaping upon his religion, so he decides to fight back with an immature thread such as this one. In case you didn't know, the timesonline is of the same ilk as The Guardian or any other America-hating source. Not worth getting worked up about, that's for sure.

Thanks!

CreepyFloyd · 04-09-2006, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtexxx

I wouldn't let Azadre get under your skin. He's obviously embarrassed by the shame that his "brothers" around the world have been heaping upon his religion, so he decides to fight back with an immature thread such as this one. In case you didn't know, the timesonline is of the same ilk as The Guardian or any other America-hating source. Not worth getting worked up about, that's for sure.

man texxx, i took time out to politely answer your question above and this is what you have to say?