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[San Antonio Express News] Yao is biggest reason to pick Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by macfan, Oct 30, 2005.

  1. macfan

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    Isn't it odd that we have to get decent analysis on the Rockets from a non-Houston newspaper?
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...MYSA103005.7S.BKNrockets.preview.6824bae.html

    The Houston Rockets have become the trendy pick to challenge the Spurs in the Southwest Division, an opinion based mostly on their offseason acquisitions of Stromile Swift and Derek Anderson and a trade for point guard Rafer Alston during the preseason.


    The Rockets may indeed challenge the Spurs, but the biggest reason, figuratively and literally, will be Yao Ming, the Rockets' 7-foot-6 center.

    It also is trendy to pick on Yao — to cite his deficiencies, rather than his accomplishments. But Yao has a passionate defender in Rockets coach Jeff Van Gundy, who calls him a real basketball player.

    "Yao, despite what people say about wanting more, is a very good player," Van Gundy said. "I don't understand the criticism of him. He's made slow and steady progress and is a very good player.

    "Does he have greatness in him (like) a Shaquille O'Neal? Time will tell. But he doesn't have to apologize for being a very good player in this league and doing something no man of his size has ever done in this league, which is be something other than a specialist."

    Yao still gets in foul trouble and remains more passive than a dominant big man can afford to be. But he has worked hard to improve his strength and balance each season.

    Some of his problems in the post are not of his making. In the past, the Rockets have not given him the ball in advantageous positions. It may sound like a small thing, but any big man will tell you it is important to get the ball where you like to receive it.

    "I think a post player is so much more dependent on the people he plays with than a perimeter player is," Van Gundy said. "A great post player, without people who have the ability to pass the ball — and at the start of last season, we may have been the worst passing team in the history of the NBA, just awful — is limited in what he can do."

    If the Rockets are better at getting the ball to Yao at the proper time, and in proper position, then the additions they made over the summer will be doubly effective. Swift is everything Yao is not — athletic and quick — but he has yet to play up to the potential most predicted for him when he came into the league five years ago. If opponents have to focus on Yao in the low post, Swift may have a breakout season.

    Alston's presence is vital because of a knee injury that likely will keep Bob Sura out for the entire season. Anderson also will get occasional turns at point guard, as will Tracy McGrady, who can play pretty much anywhere he wants, when he wants. McGrady led the Rockets in assists in their first-round playoff series with the Dallas Mavericks, averaging 6.7 per game.

    Even with Yao in the pivot, the Rockets remain McGrady's team. The All-Star forward has something of his own to prove, having yet to experience helping his team advance past the first round of the playoffs.

    Van Gundy likes his team's chances of getting out of the first round better with this season's roster.

    "We still have holes on our team, certainly, and things we don't do well, offensively and defensively," he said. "With Sura out, we have no guard rebounding, so I'm very concerned we'll be able to rebound. We were the best defensive rebounding team in the league last year, percentage wise, and that's a big factor in winning and losing. San Antonio was right behind us.

    "But, yes, I do like the makeup of my team more at the start of this season than I did a year ago."
     
  2. Pat

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    Jeff, I am a huge fan of yours, but lighten up dude!


    This concerns me. I though it was a couple of months and we will see. At Sura's age, a season ending injury has a high probability of being a career ending injury.

    Maybe the writter got this injury report from the afore mentioned Mr. Sunshine, JVG.
     
  3. tigermission1

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    Good read.

    Macfan, I understand that you disagree with some of what the Chronicle writers say, but that doesn't mean that they are not 'decent' articles just because they don't put a positive spin on things all the time. Would you rather have homers or some objectivity?
     
  4. rocketsregle

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    I thought I heard the Rocket's color commentators mention in the Jazz game or Hornets game that the Rockets expect Sura to return in January.
     
  5. Blatz

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    Did you think the Rockets were a good passing team to start the season last year? It seems like whining about what JVG says is the trendy thing to do this year.
     
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    "we may have been the worst passing team in the history of the NBA, just awful"

    Reminds me of something Bill Walton would say... "That was quite possibly the worst inbounds pass in Golden State franchise history."
     
  7. Xerobull

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    That's a good article. The whole time I was reading it I was thinking, 'It's easy to say nice things about everyone when you are the king of the hill.'

    Let's see what they say after we beat them in the WCF...
     
  8. swilkins

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    I think this might be a worst case scenario.
     
  9. Rivaldo2181

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    Quote:
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    Van Gundy said.— and at the start of last season, we may have been the worst passing team in the history of the NBA, just awful"

    We were horrible at passing at the start of the season. Tyron Lue was horrrrrrible, and Jim Jackson was a walking turnover. We started winning when those 2 guys were shipped out and our offense was so much smoother. I like JJ alot but he didn't fit in.
     
  10. reggietodd

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    I remember last year that when tmac and yao would do the pic and roll and tmac would throw a crisp pass in there, that yao would just have trouble hanging onto the ball. With Rafer, these crisp passes could be even more of a problem for YAO.

    I hope YAO worked on his hands in the offseason.
     
  11. Toast

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    I'm pretty sure this is an AP report, 'cause I've read it before. And not from the San Antonio Express News. I think it was a nat'l publication. Or maybe it was a Chronicle report and the quotes/analysis were kinda lifted from it. Not sure, but I'm 100% I've seen this before.
     
  12. m_cable

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    It's not lifted from anywhere per se. It's just that JVG blew up with these quotes at a press conference or conference call that all these reporters happened to be at, so they are all running variations of the same story. I've heard these JVG quotes defending Yao from the SF paper, USA today, and SA. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting.
     
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    Any particular reason you choose to put Yao's name in caps? I saw more than a few of wrap-around passes from T-Mac in the Mav's series at Yao's knees, and he fumbled a couple in crucial situations.

    We obviously need a different 7'6 guy.

    I've never seen a coach, scouting report or NBA-pundit-dweeb that has said Yao has anything but good hands. The beauty of the T-Mac/Yao combo is that they both figured something out very late in the season last year and they are still very much a work in progress (pretty much like the whole team is).

    Crisp passes? Well, Yao's definitely fumbled many, but his teammates still are trying to appreciate what his eye-level is and what is clear to his teammates (and camera angles) is not the view Yao has. Additionally almost evryone who follows the NBA thinks Yao's had a dirth of crisp passes thrown his way in the last 3 years.

    That's what disturbed me most watching Sura run the point last year. He'd throw a "great" pass and seemed to suddenly start ignoring Yao if it resulted in a turnover. I've said it before, but I thought James got Yao the ball much better than Sura when he chose to do so.

    Alston and DA are more likely to figure out what a great (or crisp) pass is to Yao than any guards Yao has ever played with. T-Mac and Yao, well I hope they watch a lot of film together and are brutally honest with each other.

    I can't wait to see T-Mac and Yao run the p'n'r to death because I think they're only going to get better at it.
     
  14. reggietodd

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    Sorry. I wanted to bump this old thread because Yao's hands look worse this year than last so my concern was warranted.
     
  15. tigermission1

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    Yao is Yao, he's a constant and doesn't change/improve much, he's more or less reached his potential given his exteme physical limitations.

    Everyone might as well get used to it...
     
  16. macfan

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    Tiger, I agree with you. We just thought this year would be a little different for Yao. We thought that not playing for the national team would help Yao's stamina and production. It seems that his fatigue is inherent rather than something he can work on.

    Yao has quite a few weaknesses and our current crop of players exposes them more than they were apparent last year. Yao appears slower and less intimidating than ever in the paint. We really need our guards to give their opponents the shot rather than the drive
     
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    Yes, and from day one I have maintained that he can only improve his stamina so much, and this season is about as good as his stamina will ever get, so as you said it's inherent and not really something he has much control over. If Yao was 7'0" instead of 7'6", we would've been already comparing him to the all-time greats, because his skill-set is just amazing. The one thing, however, that will always hold him back from greatness is one factor: lack of speed/quickness. Just imagine Olajuwon without that athletic ability/quickness, and now you see what I mean. Even Shaq, for a man his size, has unbelievable quickness, and was quicker in most instances than his smaller opponents (that's why Shaq is just a freak that won't likely be seen again in our lifetimes).

    Precisely. As I have mentioned in other threads, the only question/challenge that remains for this team is how to cover-up those weaknesses and prevent opponents from exposing/exploiting them.

    Good post.
     
  18. jopatmc

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    From watching this year's team, it seems like TMac is the only perimeter player we have that can run the pick and roll. I haven't seen one since he's been out.
     
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    I think head and swift did a PnR couple times. those two,seem to be in great sync with one another
     
  20. tigermission1

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    Head is a quick shooter who can score, I would definitely like to see more picks set for him, with clear instructions to take the shot.

    We need to develop a third scoring option out there, and Head seems to be the one player most capable of doing that on the current roster, so it makes sense.
     

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