[ESPN] Harden and Lin make Hollinger's All-Breakout Team

:grin 18 and 7 being above average.

 

18 points and seven assists? plus his rebounding and steals....I think he is underpay.

 

When you land a star, you sure get star treatment from the media.

Lots of pressure though, but Harden and Lin are used to pressure already to some degree.

 

find it funny that he didn't mention Lin's thievery skills. That's one of the things i'm most excited about. If he stays healthy, he'll be top 5 in steals.

 

The Harden analysis was quite insightful, supported with good data. The Lin assessment... not so much.

 

I think the Lin-Only-Fan phenomenon has really created a lot of backlash from veteran posters on this board. Lin's going to be great here. He's taken a lot of unwarranted criticism because of the actions of his fans.

 

We really have 3 guys capable of being on this team. Typical Morey. It'll be something if all 3 moves pay off like he probably expects.

 

True. But what the interesting thing is he received the same criticism and beer vitriol BEFORE he became a star as well. When he got to Golden State, most people thought he was a gimmick to get more ticket sales and could "only play pesky defense but had zero offense. Then, it was sample size and lack of Scouting reports with most saying "he can score a bit but his defense is atrocious." In high school, in college, and on and on.

Imagine if T. Jones has a breakout year. Is it cuz there was a lack of a scouting report?? We can read between the lines when Hollinger says that he finds it fascinating that people think he will get worse rather than better with experience though he has no track record of failure.

 

It's kind of unfair because both Morey and Hollinger are into advanced stats. Basically, if Hollinger were to become a GM, he would make very similar moves as Morey.

I do agree that people tend to disregard Lin's stats projection for some strange reason. Might be because many scouts being wrong on him initially.

lol, embarrassment much?

 

lol what is this? A picture for ants?

 

I think is mostly cuz of the fact that most of these fans did not even watch lin during linsanity. If he did it before when he was younger with no experience, why can't he do it again??

 

Here's another thought experiment. If Hollinger registered a new account on this site and posted what he said, would he be called 'radical and biased'? Would he be branded a LOF?

 

The Harden stats are a set of numbers that, you don't need to look at a boxscore to know. Just watching a couple Thunder games and that would have been apparent.

Lin: caveat emptor - small sample size.

 

Unfortunately, it's become popular to hate on Lin and to them those who think hes got game are idiots not knowing anything about basketball and falling for hype. It does not even matter anymore whether he's good or not, it's become a position in which they can be on their high horse and have a special "insight" into basketball that others do not possess. And they'll defend it to the death, stats, wins, op

 

Ignore the LOFs and anti-LOF threads.

 

.... stats, wins, opinions be damned.
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A sample size of 25 is actually fairly substantial in pure statistical terms. Larger sample sizes only decrease the margin of error, not the actual base statistical projections.

That said, 18 and 7 is along the lines of what I project for Lin in the mid-term (next year) but probably NOT this year. It takes time to build chemistry.

My personal thoughts were 16/7, possibly 17/7 if he had a good last half of the year. With 18/7 or possibly better next year.

My +-1 sigma put him with a lower end performance of 14/6 and upper end performance this year of 19/8, but those would be unusual outcomes. Still, 14/6 would still be an underpay for his $8.37M salary... Morey's no dummy. Barring injury, I think Lin will be fine.

 

Can someone post the full article?

Thanks!