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Who would win?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Caesar, Aug 26, 2016.

  1. BackdoorHarden

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    Steven Adams? No, he's a New Zelander
     
  2. peleincubus

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    I don't think there will be a time anywhere close to not having a single black or white player.
     
  3. BackdoorHarden

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    You sure about no NBA team without a single white player ever? There has to be at least one team. White = American = Euro dudes don't count as white...even though they are white.

    Baseball teams not having a single black player now is not uncommon.
     
  4. BackdoorHarden

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    No white player on these 2 teams.

    heat vs clippers 1/11/2012

    http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/boxscore/2012-01-11/Miami-at-LA-Clippers/83472


    Miami Heat
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    50 Joel Anthony Starter C 28:44 2-2 0-0 0-0 6.0 3.0 0 3 1 3 1 1 1
    1 Chris Bosh Starter PF 43:15 6-16 1-3 3-5 9.1 1.0 10 11 1 1 0 1 3
    15 Mario Chalmers Starter PG 40:08 6-13 4-10 2-2 14.5 2.0 2 4 5 1 0 0 1
    6 LeBron James Starter SF 41:53 7-19 0-1 9-17 13.1 2.0 11 13 7 5 2 0 6
    3 Dwyane Wade Starter SG 41:57 6-17 0-2 5-8 9.8 1.0 6 7 2 4 3 2 2
    31 Shane Battier Bench SF 25:19 2-4 0-0 0-0 2.8 0.0 1 1 0 2 1 2 1
    30 Norris Cole Bench PG 12:47 0-5 0-0 1-2 -2.8 2.0 1 3 2 4 0 0 2
    40 Udonis Haslem Bench PF 30:57 3-5 0-0 0-0 7.8 2.0 6 8 0 2 2 0 2
    Team 14
    265 32-81 5-16 20-34 84.2 13 37 64 18 22 9 6 18
    39.5% 31.3% 58.8%
    Los Angeles Clippers
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    1 Chauncey Billups Starter SG 39:31 2-11 2-8 6-7 4.9 0.0 1 1 6 2 2 0 4
    5 Caron Butler Starter SF 42:12 6-11 3-4 5-5 9.9 0.0 4 4 1 4 0 0 2
    32 Blake Griffin Starter PF 40:55 9-23 1-1 1-4 10.8 4.0 8 12 2 5 1 1 2
    6 DeAndre Jordan Starter C 39:44 4-5 0-0 0-0 14.2 3.0 8 11 0 4 0 6 3
    3 Chris Paul Starter PG 44:53 11-21 0-2 5-5 25.9 0.0 6 6 11 2 3 0 1
    34 Brian Cook Bench PF 04:08 0-2 0-1 0-0 -1.2 0.0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0
    30 Reggie Evans Bench C 20:53 0-1 0-0 0-2 3.8 3.0 5 8 0 1 0 1 2
    4 Randy Foye Bench PG 06:16 1-2 0-0 0-0 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
    15 Ryan Gomes Bench SF 05:27 0-2 0-0 0-0 1.2 0.0 1 1 1 0 1 0 0
    25 Mo Williams Bench SG 21:01 3-8 0-1 0-0 -0.2 0.0 1 1 1 2 0 0 1
    Team 10 1
    265 36-86 6-17 17-23 83.1 10 35 55 22 22 7 8 16
    41.9% 35.3% 73.9%
     
  5. DonatasFanboy

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    McHale even defended Barkley pretty well compared to most and in general was a great multipositional man-to-man defender. I don't think Blake is a terrible mismatch.

    Besides, I think this team would see a lot of Barry-Bird together, Bird is more of a 4 defensively, even more so in today's game. It would make this team a weird matchup. Bird would have a bit more problems with Blake than McHale would, I imagine, but I think it would be destruction on the other end.

    The first team has a big talent advantage here, and great depth.

    Walton >> Noah
    Bird >> Blake
    Barry >> Klay
    1st bench >>> 2nd bench
    These are pretty one sided

    The second team basically just has Curry vs. Jerry West / Mullin advantage.


    I'm sure they would lose more than they should, if we make it about rules and don't let them adjust.

    At the same time, since your question was "where have the white American ballers gone," you should be considering talent much more, rather than just saying "well, they never learned the new rules."

    PS: You have lots of non-Americans there on the 2nd team, Tony Parker, Rudy Gobert and Boris Diaw are French, Exum and Simmons are Aussies, maybe missing more.
     
  6. oakdogg

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    What about All Time Brown-eyed Players vs. All Time Blue-eyed Players?

    What about All Time Players who had Facial Hair most of their Career vs.. All Time Players who Didn't?

    I don't get the appeal of all of these ridiculous fantasy comparisons.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Not one person on the white team would be able to defend any person on the mixed team for a whole game, or even most of the game.

    That is true because of conditioning, nutrition, and training the mixed players have had because of the time they lived and played basketball in.

    It isn't because the white players are worse defenders. It's because they aren't strong enough and haven't trained in the same way for their endurance and athleticism that the mixed players have. They might be able to do a decent job for a short amount of time, but the differences would catch up to them.
     
  8. Caesar

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    Agreed Bird is a 4 in today's league. A perfect fit in 2016. I guess i should have made it clear i only meant white Americans but the bi racial were just mixed players regardless of nationality.
     
  9. Caesar

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    See i think you're wrong in that the bi racial team would be more explosive, quicker and stronger, but the white team would have more stamina. Those old guys were built like long distance runners or boxers. Today's guys are mostly built like sprinters/linebackers. With all that bulky muscle comes loss of stamina. Even with all the advanced stuff at their disposal and comfortable shoes to run in, they complain about too many minutes. Hondo would outlast any player in the league today in a long distance run wearing flat footed converse all stars.
     
  10. Caesar

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    There is no light-skinned full black guy. They are mixed. Curry's mom is mixed no matter what she says. His wife is mixed. They aren't "light skinned" and green eyed without European mix in their genetics.

    Here are the players i mentioned family:

    Tony Parker- Dutch mother
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    Blake Griffin - Anglo America mother
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    Shane Battier -can't find photo, but his mother is white american

    Jason Kidd -white american mother
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    Joakim Noah - Sweedish mother
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    Klay Thompson - White american mother
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    Deron Williams - White mother (no photo)

    Kevin Martin - White mother (no photo)

    Rick Fox - White Canadian Olympian mother
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    Ben Simmons - White Australian mother
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    Rudy Gobert - White French mother
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    Brook Lopez - Cuban Father/White American mother
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    Steph Curry - I assume this is the one guy that you meant because everyone else has white mothers. The Curry's can claim to be full black "but light skinned." That's r****ded. Give the Curry's a DNA test and they will show up with probably 35-45% European genetics. His mom can claim 100% African and Haitian, but saying it doesn't make it true. It's clear the Curry's are just trying to be as black as possible because dark skinned black people always have something against light skinned guys.

    Hell, pretty much all black guys in America have a small percentage of European or native or both genetics. Do a DNA test if you are a black guy and you might be shocked to find you are 20-30% native american + european no matter how dark your skin color is.
     
  11. BackdoorHarden

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    Dirk is basically today's Bird, except Bird was so much better in everything else other than shooting.

    Bird was an incredible passer.
     
  12. BackdoorHarden

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    Yup. Do a DNA test on Curry and I'm sure it will show those European blood since his mom is Haitai and Creole, meaning blood from Europe, probably Portgual and Spain.

    No light skin dude will ever claim to be half white or else get discriminated upon.

    Why do you think there are so many 100% white kids trying to act black in Urban school? So they don't get killed. One has to fit in and being black is how you fit in.

    Look at Jerry Lin. Dude trying to look black with his hair while in Charlotte and the deep south
     
  13. BackdoorHarden

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    #201 is Rick Fox 's mom??? DAAAAAAAAAAAMN. I thought his mom would be hot since he's pretty good looking.

    I saw him on he same plane in Los ANgeles last year, sitting in first class Virgin America. Dude was with another black dude and he was wearing some cap that said "Fox..." something. Guess he needed everyone to know who he was
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  14. Caesar

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    Bird is a better rebounder than LeBron and as good a passer(for sure flashier passer). I think Dirk just has the tall shooting element, nothing else. Bird was closer to 6'10, but just under in shoes.

    I love Bird. Some days i choose Bird over Magic, other days i choose Magic over Bird. It always goes back and forth. Just really depends on the team you are trying to construct. Both will come out on top eventually. Magic IMO always had the better talent though not to say Bird didn't have HOF talent on his team also, but i mean Magic's teammate for nearly his whole career was another guy many think is the GOAT.... Kind of hard to imagine teammates being top 5 together. Could you imagine Jordan or LeBron or Hakeem with another top 5 player their whole career? Pfft.
     
  15. Caesar

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    The left woman is his mom.

    This is also her at an older age. Maybe it's just me but it looks like he got all of her facial features: http://rickfox.com/blog/list/tag/rick+fox+diane+gerace
     
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    Why the hell is there a thread and a post about this racial heritage stuff on a basketball site? Is this what you sit around and think about? It's a shame you couldn't have hung out with Alfred Rosenberg. Y'all would have had a blast.
     
  17. Caesar

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    What's up Oak? Just what exactly are you offended by? We can talk about topics from numerous poop threads, to picking up escorts to all things JLin and T-Mac's lack of passing videos, but this offends you? I am in no way trying to insult white guys. It's just a silly thread among thousands of other silly threads that have come through.
     
  18. Caesar

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    Wait. I just realized you said i should hang out with a Nazi. So you're offended by what though? I thought you were a white guy offended that i was saying white american ballers are rare or something. So why am i racist that i would need to hang out with Nazi's?

    Please tell me what is racist about pointing out the half white side of those ballers? That's racist now? Too much sensitivity over nothing...
     
  19. Caesar

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    And here i thought bi-racial ballers and population in general(bi-racial president) coming up so fast in the league and world was a sign of the future and times changing. Now, it's racist to even mention a white parent of a bi-racial person.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm not saying the white team would have more stamina. I'm saying they would have less stamina. I'm also saying the bi racial team would be stronger, quicker, and more explosive.

    I understand about the complaining of minutes. But the minutes being played in the old days were played in a game against players that didn't have modern training, nutrition, etc. so weren't as explosive, athletic, strong etc.
     

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