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Memphis guard Nick Calathes will be suspended 20 games

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Be honest, none of yall even know who calathes is or even seen him play. Stop bagging on his hair, or lack thereof.
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Fixed it for you.

#21 flamingdts, Apr 18, 2014

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That is weird, as it's main use is as an anti-breast cancer agent. Masks other steroids though.

#22 intergalactic, Apr 18, 2014
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Man, him and chandler are like BFFs
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no worries, Chandler doesn't even look like he lifts.

#23 DreamShook, Apr 18, 2014
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USA Today Sports said:

According to the Mayo Clinic's website, Tamoxifen blocks the effects of the estrogen hormone in the body and is commonly used to treat breast cancer in men and women. In the sports world, it's more commonly used to reduce the side effects of steroids. In June of 2012, free agent outfielder Marlon Byrd was suspended 50 games by Major League Baseball after testing positive for Tamoxifen. But Calathes, who is filing a grievance on the ruling, insists he didn't take the substance to gain any sort of edge.

"I deeply regret my actions and apologize to my teammates and the organization for my poor judgment," Calathes said in a statement made to USA TODAY Sports. "Let me be clear: I never took any medication whatsoever for a performance-enhancing reason. I don't agree with this outcome, and I will come back a better player and person when I return."
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http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/201...thes-mounting-defense-calls-suspension-unfair

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Suspended Memphis Grizzlies guard Nick Calathes is mounting a defense against a 20-game suspension handed down Friday for violation of the NBA's drug policy, citing it as unfair. The league, however, plans to stand by its ruling under the collective bargaining agreement.

Calathes was suspended less than 24 hours before the Grizzlies started their playoff series against the Oklahoma City Thunder for use of the drug Tamoxifen, which is one of the 140 substances banned by the NBA's performance-enhancing drug policy. Tamoxifen is not directly a PED but a masking agent for other substances, including synthetic testosterone.

The National Basketball Players Association can file a grievance on Calathes' behalf but nothing will prevent him from having to sit out the next 20 games. Unlike in Major League Baseball, appealed suspensions do not result in a stay.

"[It was] an over-the-counter supple to treat a private but common medical condition; the NBA rejected it because it doesn't require a prescription," attorney David Cornwell, who is representing Calathes, told ESPN.

"Our tests identified tamoxifen in a supplement Nick [used] for a legitimate medical condition and our tests confirmed that Nick did not have testosterone or any other PED in his body. Despite this irrefutable, objective scientific evidence, the NBA's response was, 'Oh well.' This is indefensible because no legitimate purpose is served by suspending a man who the NBA knows was not cheating."

Cornwell will speak to the players union on Monday to see if they can expedite a grievance and try to salvage some part of the playoffs for Calathes.

NBA general counsel Rick Buchanan, who overseas the league's drug-testing program, told ESPN the agreement on PED enforcement between the league and the players union does not allow it to consider intent. The players have a strict liability on knowing what they put in their bodies.

"Nutritional supplements that are available over the counter are not regulated by the FDA and there's no regulations of what goes into these supplements. As a result there's a risk of taking them," Buchanan said. "At the start of the season the league and the union send a joint letter to the players about the dangers of taking supplements and it tells them there's no guarantee of label integrity."

The Grizzlies, who were not notified officially of Calathes' impending suspension until this week, were stunned.

Players are tested up to six times a year randomly, four times during the season and twice in the offseason. Samples are separated into an "A" and "B." If the "A" sample comes back positive, the player is given the option of having the "B" sample tested by a different lab. If both samples test positive, the player meets with an approved doctor to examine if there is a legitimate alternative medical explanation.

Cornwell feels Calathes had a legitimate medical explanation. Buchanan said he cannot talk about specific cases because of the league's confidentiality requirements. However, the fact that Calathes was suspended makes the doctor's recommendation clear.

Calathes is just the fifth player to be suspended by the NBA for PEDs since 2007 and the first since O.J. Mayo was banned in 2011. Calathes is the first player to receive a 20-game ban; the suspensions were increased from 10 games as part of the CBA signed in late 2011.

In March, U.S. Anti-Doping Agency CEO Travis Tygart said the NBA was lax in its testing standards for PEDs. Cornwell is now describing their policies as too stringent in their handling of Calathes' suspension.

The league and the players have talked but not yet agreed to expand drug testing to blood tests or to check for HGH, which is banned by the NBA but not currently tested for. The World Anti-Doping Association is still working to set testing standards for HGH and the players' union currently has no executive director, which has halted talks to amend the anti-drug program.
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#24 J.R., Apr 19, 2014
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isn't juicing supposed to make you a beast athletically, which is the antithesis of calathes. Do you need me to spell it out for you?
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How about you spell out the previous post before you that dissed his athleticism which was 0.

#25 Shaud, Apr 19, 2014
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Be honest, none of yall even know who calathes is or even seen him play. Stop bagging on his athletic ability, or lack thereof.
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I do because I remember how much Memphis' starters sucked without Conley

#26 Aleron, Apr 19, 2014
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what is a calathes?

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There seems to be somewhat of a misconception that performance enhancing drugs serve only the purpose of making you stronger, faster, whatever.

In a sport like basketball, the best type of ped's are for regeneration and shortened recovery times, you're not running a 100m sprint, you're in a marathon, your endurance and more importantly, recovery times are everything.

#28 Aleron, Apr 19, 2014
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I knew he was on some drugs when I saw him put up those crazy numbers. 4.9 ppg for a guy that nobody even knows outside of Memphis area, pretty impressive.

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Maybe he had b**** t*** and was getting ready for summer

#30 Classic, Apr 19, 2014
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I like how people enjoy revelling in their own ignorance.

On topic, this is laughable. I like how the NBA is pretending to crack down on doping and they bust dudes for weed or tamoxifen or whatever. Dudes like Lebron or Dwight have more HGH than water in their body and everyone knows it, but of course you're not gonna go after your moneymakers. Just crucify some random guys for minimal offenses so you look like you care.

#31 Akkuron, Apr 19, 2014
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I like how people enjoy revelling in their own ignorance.

On topic, this is laughable. I like how the NBA is pretending to crack down on doping and they bust dudes for weed or tamoxifen or whatever. Dudes like Lebron or Dwight have more HGH than water in their body and everyone knows it, but of course you're not gonna go after your moneymakers. Just crucify some random guys for minimal offenses so you look like you care.
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Do you even lift, bro?

#32 el gnomo, Apr 20, 2014
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I knew it. It explains the reason why he was beasting and playing on a mvp level

#33 mig0s, Apr 20, 2014

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Akkuron said: ↑

I like how people enjoy revelling in their own ignorance.

On topic, this is laughable. I like how the NBA is pretending to crack down on doping and they bust dudes for weed or tamoxifen or whatever. Dudes like Lebron or Dwight have more HGH than water in their body and everyone knows it, but of course you're not gonna go after your moneymakers. Just crucify some random guys for minimal offenses so you look like you care.
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do you have proof of this?

#34 Mr. Space City, Apr 20, 2014
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He tested positive for tamoxifen, which I don't believe has anything to do with his hair. However, I know that it's a common after-steroid-cycle drug. LMFAO if Calathes was juicing...
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Really, tamoxifen is a breast cancer drug used to treat estrogen dependent tumors. So, yes, it works in steroid regulation. Suspension is clearly justified.

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I thought teams had doctors who will clear what medicine or supplements players can take.

Calathes should come clean on what medical condition he had and what supplement he took. It can serve as a warning for other players.

#36 RoxBeliever, Apr 20, 2014
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Beno Udrih to the rescue

#37 Houston22, Apr 20, 2014
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my money is still on the hair

he is probably turning into a girl.

#38 Amel, Apr 20, 2014

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Akkuron said: ↑

I like how people enjoy revelling in their own ignorance.

On topic, this is laughable. I like how the NBA is pretending to crack down on doping and they bust dudes for weed or tamoxifen or whatever. Dudes like Lebron or Dwight have more HGH than water in their body and everyone knows it, but of course you're not gonna go after your moneymakers. Just crucify some random guys for minimal offenses so you look like you care.
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did u make this conclusion before or after u collected their urine samples in your mouth

#39 SuperBeeKay, Apr 20, 2014

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SuperBeeKay said: ↑

did u make this conclusion before or after u collected their urine samples in your mouth
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sry roommate posted this lol

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