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Captured on video: Cops shoot and kill white man with hands up in Texas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bmd, Aug 29, 2015.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    All you are showing is that you think the one example is indicative of "systemic" problems.....you are basically exactly what bmd was talking about.

    One example, thus the world....amirite!

    Anyway, I've never seen why people blame banks for giving people loans they couldn't pay back yet don't seem to ever blame the morons who signed up for those loans. Odd isn't it?
     
  2. StupidMoniker

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    Perhaps the loan officers found that black people were more likely to accept these subprime mortgages despite qualifying for better mortgages than white people. I doubt it is because the loan officers thought, "You know we can really stick it to the blacks if we charge them higher interest rates, muh ha ha ha ha. Heil Hitler."
     
  3. Northside Storm

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    one example? that article alone cited thousands of examples in New York City alone, and hundreds in Baltimore, and you haven't even begun to attack the systematic data trends that cover millions of people in employment. :confused::confused::confused:

    that's how data works, not conjucture. You don't think there's a systematic problem if African-Americans are five times more likely to be stuck with subprime mortgage loans despite having better or equal incomes? That's not "one" incident, that's a collection of thousands upon thousands.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Well the loan officers at that branch may have very well been racist....but Mr. Tin Foil Hat thinks that means that the whole system is out to get him.

    Isn't that their fault? No one "forced" bad loans on them, they accepted bad loans....it was THEIR decision.

    Also, are we to assume that every loan officer that "stuck" black people with bad loans were non-black themselves?

    The problem with conspiracy nuts like you is that you don't think out what you are saying before you say it.
     
  5. Northside Storm

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    or perhaps previously red-lined neighbourhoods are easy sitting ducks for unconventional financial products and continuing racial attitudes. unless African-Americans suddenly disown all of the rules of rational agency in economics.

    It doesn't really matter what the loan officers thought (though the sworn statements are more than damning in that respect): the reality is that there is a racialized difference that is very hard to explain beyond irrational discrimination. BoA should know: they had to settle paying out $300m+ for it.

    Now, just like pay-gap analysis, if there are rational economic reasons for that difference then sure, have at it. But you can't make statements like "blacks react to every incident to think that there is a war against them" without a shred of proof and expect to come up with ham-handed ways to dismiss systematic racism and incidents that don't trigger riots and that are responsible for foreclosures and the shuttering of entire neighbourhoods, predominatly black and urban.
     
  6. Northside Storm

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    That one "branch"?

    Nobody is coming after me, but it's utterly vapid to make stereotypical statements about people that are entirely wrong, then when you're confronted with facts, you outright dismiss them. You have not presented a single shred of evidence for any of your thoughts. Shape up.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    ...you've done nothing but talk about how one company targeted people they thought (correctly so) would be stupid enough to take bad loans and pointed out that some people in the company talked negatively about those people. You then implied "institutional racism" as a result.

    Do you realize the holes in that half-ass attempt at an argument?

    Taking advantage of stupid people is against the law for banks so they ended up having the government go after them (you know, the institution)...

    I sometimes think you conspiracy nuts are fun, but c'mon, do a better job.
     
  8. bmd

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    And you know who you can thank for things like that?

    Democrats.

    Specifically Bill Clinton.

    I remember when Bill Clinton was big on wanting everyone to own a home. He would pressure the lenders to lend to people who didn't really qualify. And this affected black people more than other groups.

    Bill Clinton had a big hand in encouraging risky lending. It makes him look good if all of these minorities can now own a house.
     
  9. bmd

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    You are not American, are you?
     
  10. Remii

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    Again, I don't know what subculture you speak of... Now, if you want to say the entertainment industry glorifies criminality _ ok... Have you ever heard of Johnny F'n Cash...???

    As far as your abortion idea... Good thing you're not in charge but common sense and logic would suggest it would be easier to reform welfare to benefit two parent house holds more than it does single parent house holds. The democratic president LBJ started the high single parent rate with his war on poverty.


    I don't know why you keep bringing up Brown when there are plenty of other incidents when police have been proven of wrong doing and are using excessive force when unnecessary.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Because in the Brown case, people were fooled into thinking that he had his hands up when he was shot and in this case it actually happened.

    "Hands up, don't shoot" would finally make sense if they were talking about this case.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    He's talking about rap but just doesn't want to say it.

    Meanwhile, in a Kendrick Lamar song...

    Yeah...it's the same argument about black on black crime that a lot of people here throw about lol.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, that's overly simplistic...so I'm not surprised you thought that's what I was talking about. Hell I grew up listening to rap, there's more to culture than music.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    Well you keep talking about sub-culture and everyone always talks about "Black" culture without describing what it actually is.

    They just say buzz words like 'Culture' and be done with it.
     
  15. Remii

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    No video tape so we don't know. But those protest and riots had a lot more to with just Brown.

    And guys like Jerry Heller are black... Lol.

    Hip hop makes their money off the white community. That's why they pushed gangsta rap and hardcore rap to the mainstream so white folks would buy it.

    Case and point...
     
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    In the "Chin Check" song there's a portion: "**** Jerry Heller and dem white super powers"...
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    Well, that and the fact that they are HAWT!!!
     
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    Dudes aren't helping the anti-law-enforcement hate with this. Doesn't look good, unfortunately. The one-hand-instead-of-two might be the only thing that saves them. :(

    I hope they didn't say or fabricate anything.

    Does that matter? :confused:
     
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    It's perfectly fine and acceptable for cops to kill civilians...
     

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