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Chad Ford Mock Draft 5.0

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  1. agslai

    agslai Contributing Member

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    Can someone post the latest mok draft 5.0 from insider? Thanks.
     
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    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    from 4.0, nothing changed in the top 14 except Cousins and Monroe swapping between 5 and 6.. and Patrick Patterson going 12 instead of 22.
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    1. was - wall
    2. phi - turner
    3. njn - favors
    4. min - johnson
    5. sac - cousins
    6. gws - monroe
    7. det - aminu
    8. lac - hayward
    9. uta - babbitt
    10. ind - davis
    11. noh - aldrich
    12. mem - patterson
    13. tor - bradley
    14. hou - udoh

    can't post the rest because im at work. not that the rest matter after the rockets pick lol
     
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    15 Bucks - Henry
    16 Minnesota - George
    17 bulls - J. Anderson
    18 Heat - Bledsoe
    19 Celtics - Alabi
    20 Spurs - Damion James
    21 Thunder - Orton
    22 Portland - Whiteside
    23 Minnessota - Seraphin
    24 Hawks - Stephenson
    25 Memphis - Dominique James
    26 Thunder - Brackins
    27 New Jersey - Crawford
    28 Memphis - Sanders
    29 Magic - Amir Johnson
    30 Wizards - Poindexter


    The blurb about the rockets

    Analysis: Udoh is the type of long, shot-blocking forward who should find a comfortable home in Houston. While he's a bit older than the rest of the class and doesn't have elite athleticism, he's still improving -- one of the few older players in the draft with any real upside left. Patrick Patterson and Hassan Whiteside are other possibilities here.


    This is way less descriptive than the analysis about the teams before and after the rockets. Makes me think Morey isn't giving any indication of what hes up too. Trades maybe?
     
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    Washington

    John Wall
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 196 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky

    (Wall's previous position: No. 1 to Washington)

    Analysis: Here's all we know for sure with a week to go -- John Wall will be the No. 1 pick. Multiple team sources -- off the record, of course -- have been telling us for weeks that Wall is their man. Plus, the Washington Post reported over the weekend that Evan Turner won't even be working out for the Wizards and is conceding the No. 1 spot to Wall.

    The task for the Wizards now turns to filling in the spaces around him -- getting a healthy and focused Gilbert Arenas, looking for bargains or perhaps Rudy Gay in free agency, and figuring out how to turn the Wizards into a powerhouse franchise. Adding Wall is a big step in the right direction, but only one of many the Wizards are going to have to take.



    Philadelphia

    Evan Turner
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 214
    Age: 21
    School: Ohio State

    (Turner's previous position: No. 2 to Philadelphia)

    Analysis: We still have Turner penciled in here as we continue to receive strong signals from inside the Sixers' organization that he is the guy they'll take at No. 2. However, while those signals certainly could be legit, I take them with a grain of salt.

    Turner is the most polished player in the draft, but I'm not sure he has the upside (and he certainly doesn't have the size and athleticism) of Favors, and I continue to hear that head coach Doug Collins prefers Favors to Turner.

    Because Turner is almost the consensus No. 2 pick, the Sixers want other teams that are contemplating trading up for him (the Wolves and Pacers seem to be the hottest suitors) to believe they're taking him. If teams think he'll slip past Philly, they'll begin dealing with New Jersey instead.

    I do think it will take a blockbuster to convince Philly to move the No. 2 pick. Either someone is going to have to take Elton Brand off the Sixers' hands or offer them a young All-Star in return. If they don't get that offer, it's more a toss-up between Turner and Favors than some think.


    New Jersey

    Derrick Favors
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 245
    Age: 18
    School: Georgia Tech

    (Favors' previous position: No. 3 to New Jersey)

    Analysis: While New Jersey would be happy if Turner were to slide to No. 3, the Nets also have a high level of interest in Favors and some interest in DeMarcus Cousins. The two are scheduled to go head-to-head in a workout for the Nets on Monday.

    Favors has the type of athleticism and upside to complement Brook Lopez nicely in the middle. Cousins isn't as good of a fit next to Lopez defensively, but he's also more NBA-ready than Favors and the team has a mandate to win now.

    Of course, the Nets are also targeting a number of veteran big men this summer, including Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire and Carlos Boozer. With the amount of cap space they have, the Nets have the luxury of drafting the best player available as opposed to drafting to fill a need.

    The team also is high on Syracuse forward Wesley Johnson. I'm told he's in the mix at the No. 3 spot as well. But for now, Favors has the edge.



    Minnesota

    Wesley Johnson
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 206
    Age: 22
    School: Syracuse

    (Johnson's previous position: No. 4 to Minnesota)

    Analysis: The Wolves are exploring possibilities of moving up in the draft. Evan Turner is their target and they have the assets (the 16th and 23rd picks) to make a deal with either Philly or New Jersey if either team is so inclined.

    If they keep the pick, it looks like Wesley Johnson is their man. We've had him going to Minnesota in our mock draft since May and that projection is looking like it's been dead on. Johnson was in Minnesota on Monday and he wowed everyone in the organization. Not only is he a great basketball player, but he's a great young man. He's the type of locker-room guy that a young team wants to build with.

    Unless Derrick Favors falls to No. 4, I think you can use a Sharpie with Wes Johnson here.



    Sacramento

    DeMarcus Cousins
    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 292
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky

    (Cousins' previous position: No. 6 to Golden State)

    Analysis: Another mock draft and, yes, a new pick for the Kings. Last week we had Greg Monroe going to Sacramento. But this week things changed pretty dramatically when DeMarcus Cousins came into town to work out with the Kings. He was, in a word, awesome.

    Cousins was red hot shooting the ball (he converted 78 percent of the shots he took) and had the Kings' brass drooling by the end of the workout. While GM Geoff Petrie still has his reservations about Cousins as a person, it sounds like the Kings have fallen in love with him as a player and he now has the edge over Greg Monroe for the No. 5 pick should Wes Johnson not be on the board.

    However, the process isn't over yet. Monroe is coming in for a second workout with the Kings against Hassan Whiteside on Saturday. That should be interesting.

    The Kings are also exploring trading picks, with one team (Detroit) squarely on the radar. If the Pistons would give up the No. 7 pick and Tayshaun Prince for the No. 5 pick and Andres Nocioni, I think they'd have a deal. But so far the Pistons have been adamant that they're holding on to Prince, and I don't think the Kings would do a Rip Hamilton-for-Nocioni swap.



    Golden State

    Greg Monroe
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 247
    Age: 19
    School: Georgetown

    (Monroe's previous position: No. 5 to Sacramento)

    Analysis: The Warriors are among the most difficult teams in the draft to predict right now. Over the course of the past week, I've heard a number of players were atop their list, including DeMarcus Cousins, Greg Monroe, Al-Farouq Aminu, Xavier Henry, Ekpe Udoh, Patrick Patterson ... I could go on.

    To me, this is where the gamesmanship really starts. The Warriors could go in almost any direction. The team itself is a bit of a mess. We're not sure who's going to own the team in a month, the coaching situation is up in the air, players are on the trading block and agents who've had their players work out for Golden State don't particularly want their guys to end up there.

    For weeks, the word I've been getting is Cousins is the guy. If he's off the board, the next closest consensus among sources (and I use the word consensus loosely) is Monroe. The Warriors need more size, and Monroe's high basketball IQ and skill level should be a nice fit in Golden State.


    Detroit

    Al-Farouq Aminu
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 215
    Age: 19
    School: Wake Forest

    (Aminu's previous position: No. 7 to Detroit)

    Analysis: Pistons president Joe Dumars has said he wants his team to regain the grit and toughness of past Pistons teams. But picking at No. 7 makes that a bit of a challenge. Detroit is really high on both Cousins and Favors, but most likely it'll have to move up in the draft to get one of them. Regardless, the team needs a big man.

    So why do I have the Pistons taking Aminu, who's listed as a small forward? Two reasons:

    First, the Pistons feel they don't have to solve their big man issue through the draft. There are always trades and free agency options to help shore up the middle. Second, the Pistons are among a handful of teams who think, given Aminu's length, that he can play the 4 in the NBA. He's going to need to get stronger, but he has a penchant for rebounding and runs the floor like a deer.

    Ed Davis, Greg Monroe and Ekpe Udoh all have a shot here as well. But for now, I'm still leaning toward Aminu. It's a bit of a risky pick for Dumars, but he hasn't been afraid to swing for the fences in the past.



    Los Angeles Clippers

    Gordon Hayward
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 211
    Age: 20
    School: Butler

    (Hayward's previous position: No. 8 to L.A. Clippers)

    Analysis: The Clippers could go in a lot of directions with this pick, and I keep getting mixed signals. The latest word has them narrowing the field down to Al-Farouq Aminu, Greg Monroe, Ed Davis, Hayward and Paul George.

    Of those five names, George may be the guy who's the most intriguing to the Clippers. But they also feel he's the biggest risk. The Clips would probably take Monroe or Aminu, but they likely will be off the board here.

    So that narrows it down to Davis or Hayward. While the team is intrigued with Davis, the Clippers have no one at the 3 right now. And they feel that if Hayward can refine his stroke, he could be a star in the league down the road.



    Utah
    (via New York)

    Luke Babbitt
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 214
    Age: 20
    School: Nevada

    (Babbitt's previous position: No. 9 to Utah)

    Analysis: The Jazz are crossing their fingers that Greg Monroe slips to them. If he doesn't, as we've projected here, they have a tough choice. They can choose from a couple of big men -- Ed Davis, Ekpe Udoh or Cole Aldrich. Or they can address a big need at the wing. Babbitt, Xavier Henry and Hayward are all options the team would be comfortable with.

    Which way are they leaning? GM Kevin O'Connor is keeping his cards close to the vest. I think Babbitt has a slight lead over Henry and Davis at the moment. But this one could come down to draft night.

    I'll say this: The Jazz have been consistently high on Babbitt all year. They have had success with sweet-shooting small forwards like him and he can come in and contribute from Day 1. All of that should give him the edge.



    Indiana

    Ed Davis
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 227
    Age: 20
    School: North Carolina

    (Davis' previous position: No. 10 to Indiana)

    Analysis: The Pacers had a number of top bigs (Daniel Orton, Ekpe Udoh and Hassan Whiteside) and guards (Avery Bradley and Eric Bledsoe) in to work out last week. This week the team has looked at a number of forwards, including Damion James, Paul George, Xavier Henry and Patrick Patterson.

    All of the players listed, however, are part of Plan B. If the Pacers are fortunate enough to see Davis slip, they're in a much better place. While Davis is very raw, he's got the size, athleticism and shot-blocking ability that the team has been craving for years.

    The Pacers are looking to shore up their team via trades and have some assets, including the expiring contracts of both Troy Murphy and T.J. Ford, so they are free to go with the best talent available.



    New Orleans

    Cole Aldrich
    Position: C
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 236
    Age: 21
    School: Kansas

    (Aldrich's previous position: No. 11 to New Orleans)

    Analysis: The Hornets have a new head coach and job No. 1 is filling a pretty large hole on the front line. The Hornets have Emeka Okafor and David West and not much else.

    Their choices here are Aldrich, Patrick Patterson, Daniel Orton and Hassan Whiteside. While Orton and Whiteside have more upside, Aldrich is, by far, the most NBA-ready of the group and could become a Joel Przybilla-like player in the middle. If the Hornets decide to address the power forward position instead, then Patterson could be the guy.

    Ultimately, I think Aldrich gets the nod. Considering that Aldrich could go as high as No. 5, he's a bargain at No. 11.



    Memphis

    Patrick Patterson
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 245
    Age: 21
    School: Kentucky

    (Patterson's previous position: No. 22 to Portland)

    Analysis: The Grizzlies have had their sights set on Luke Babbitt for weeks and he could fall here. However, if he's off the board, expect them to look elsewhere for an NBA-ready player.

    We've heard Paul George's name here and he would be an excellent replacement for Rudy Gay if he leaves via free agency. But Patterson has worked out to pretty strong reviews. GM Chris Wallace wants a player who can step in and immediately contribute, and that is Patterson's greatest strength.



    Toronto

    Avery Bradley
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 180
    Age: 19
    School: Texas

    (Bradley's previous position: No. 13 to Toronto)

    Analysis: The Raptors could go a number of different directions here. With Chris Bosh likely out the door, Hedo Turkoglu pining for a trade and the team shopping Jose Calderon, you can expect the Raptors to look radically different next season.

    Finding a center is atop GM Bryan Colangelo's list. If Bosh leaves he'd like to move Andrea Bargnani to the 4. But of the top big men left on the board -- Orton, Whiteside and Alabi -- none of them is close to being ready.

    That may shift the Raptors' focus to the backcourt. Assuming they can move Calderon this summer, they'll have a need at the point and Bradley, who can play both backcourt positions, is the type of explosive athlete they're looking for.

    Bradley sprained his ankle badly during a workout at Oklahoma City on Sunday. The injury will keep him out of workouts until the draft, but he should be ready to go by summer league.



    Houston

    Ekpe Udoh
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 237
    Age: 22
    School: Baylor

    (Udoh's previous position: No. 14 to Houston)

    Analysis: Udoh is the type of long, shot-blocking forward who should find a comfortable home in Houston. While he's a bit older than the rest of the class and doesn't have elite athleticism, he's still improving -- one of the few older players in the draft with any real upside left. Patrick Patterson and Hassan Whiteside are other possibilities here.



    Milwaukee
    (via Chicago)

    Xavier Henry
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 210
    Age: 19
    School: Kansas

    (Henry's previous position: No. 15 to Milwaukee)

    Analysis: The Bucks have a big need at the wing position with Michael Redd coming back from injury and John Salmons looking to opt out of his contract.

    Of the players left on the board, Henry and Paul George look to be, by far, the best values. Both players can play either the 2 or 3, both can shoot the lights out and both have upside.

    Speaking of upside, we probably should add one more name to the list. It's a long shot but Cincinnati's Lance Stephenson has impressed in workouts and the Bucks have had their eye on him for a while. It seems like that's a bit of a reach at 15, but John Hammond rolled the dice on a former high school phenom with a bad rep last year and it paid off. Will he do it again this year?



    Minnesota
    (via Charlotte)

    Paul George
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 214
    Age: 20
    School: Fresno State

    (George's previous position: No. 12 to Memphis)

    Analysis: The Wolves have been eyeing Paul George for a while and the team will feel pretty lucky if he falls here. George is getting consideration as high as No. 8 and the Grizzies at No. 12, Raptors at No. 13 and Bucks at No. 15 will all give him a long look, too.

    Why would the Wolves take George here if they're drafting Wesley Johnson at No. 4? Because the Wolves see George as more of a 2-guard. They desperately need some perimeter shooting and George has a gorgeous stroke from behind the arc. Team him and Johnson with Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Al Jefferson, Kevin Love and Darko Milicic (whom the Wolves are likely to re-sign this summer) and the Wolves have a nice young nucleus.

    Hassan Whiteside and Damion James are also real possibilities here.



    Chicago
    (via Milwaukee)

    James Anderson
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 210
    Age: 21
    School: Oklahoma State

    (Anderson's previous position: No. 17 to Chicago)

    Analysis: Anderson was one of the best scorers in college basketball and could be a very good fit in the Bulls' backcourt. His ability to stretch the defense and attack the basket would make him a nice complement to Derrick Rose.

    Even if the team ends up landing LeBron James or Dwyane Wade, look for Anderson to be the guy. As far as NBA-ready players go, there are few better in this draft. I'd expect him to play the same sort of role James Harden did in OKC last season.



    Miami

    Eric Bledsoe
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-2
    Weight: 192
    Age: 20
    School: Kentucky

    (Bledsoe's previous position: No. 18 to Miami)

    Analysis: Bledsoe is a tough, Pat Riley-type of player and could be a long-term upgrade from the Mario Chalmers-Carlos Arroyo duo at point guard.

    Bledsoe was one of the players who really helped himself at the draft combine. Playing outside of John Wall's shadow, he often looked like the best guard on the floor. Physically, he's ready for the NBA right now. But he still needs more experience running the point. In the long term, Bledsoe could pay off.


    Boston

    Solomon Alabi
    Position: C
    Height: 7-1
    Weight: 237
    Age: 22
    School: Florida State

    (Alabi's previous position: No. 19 to Boston)

    Analysis: Alabi may seem like a bit of a reach to some, but he appears to be one of the hotter names in the draft at the moment. The Raptors, Celtics, Spurs, Thunder, Heat and Blazers are all showing interest. Those are all teams with historically good draft track records, so watch carefully. Alabi measured as one of the tallest and longest players in the draft, and he showed a nice skill game and a terrific motor in the drills.

    Some scouts are comparing him to Dikembe Mutombo. I don't think Alabi has the same sort of rebounding and shot-blocking ability, but he does have a similar demeanor and presence on the court.



    San Antonio

    Damion James
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 227
    Age: 22
    School: Texas

    (James' previous position: No. 20 to San Antonio)

    Analysis: James is one of the more underrated players in the draft. Very few players have his combination of athleticism and motor.

    He doesn't have a position on offense, but he can defend multiple positions on the floor. He would be able to step in right away with the Spurs' vets and provide meaningful minutes.



    Oklahoma City

    Daniel Orton
    Position: C
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 269
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky

    (Orton's previous position: No. 21 to Oklahoma City)

    Analysis: Orton is a bit of an enigma. His 3 ppg and 3 rpg as a freshman at Kentucky certainly won't wow you. But he's got the raw tools to be a successful big man in the pros.

    The Thunder were among the teams that were on him early and they might just get lucky and get him here. While Orton is in the discussion starting at the 10th pick, concerns about his knees and his relative lack of playing time over the course of the past two seasons are weighing on teams.

    He could easily end up in the lottery, but I doubt he slips further than this.


    Portland

    Hassan Whiteside
    Position: C
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 227
    Age: 20
    School: Marshall

    (Whiteside's previous position: No. 16 to Minnesota)

    Analysis: The Blazers, as we reported on Tuesday, have been active trying to move up to No. 19 or higher in the draft. Their target? I've been doing some research and I believe they're after Solomon Alabi.

    To get him, they'll likely have to get up higher in the draft. If they can't get him, or one of their other targets, look for them to be content to grab Whiteside. The Blazers love his talent though, like the rest of the NBA, they're worried about his maturity.

    However, the Blazers have the resources and culture in place to bring him along slowly, and help give him the on-court and off-court skills he needs to succeed. He's a long-term project, but with Marcus Camby mentoring him, he could be a home run.



    Minnesota
    (via Utah)

    Kevin Seraphin
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 258
    Age: 20
    Country: France

    (Seraphin's previous position: No. 23 to Minnesota)

    Analysis: With their third pick of this draft, you can expect the Wolves to stash a player overseas. Seraphin hasn't really produced big numbers in France, but he has Serge Ibaka-like physical upside.


    Atlanta

    Lance Stephenson
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 227
    Age: 19
    School: Cincinnati

    (Stephenson's previous position: No. 24 to Atlanta)

    Analysis: The Hawks aren't known for really swinging for the fences. But they just might try with Stephenson. With Joe Johnson looking as though he may bolt this summer, the team is going to need another wing and Stephenson has as much talent as anyone left on the board.

    He has an NBA body, can play the iso game and has a high basketball IQ. His lack of a 3-point jump shot could be a concern for the Hawks, but at this point I think you have to take the best player available.



    Memphis
    (via Denver)

    Dominique Jones
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 216
    Age: 21
    School: South Florida

    (Jones' previous position: NR)

    Analysis: Jones was one of the best scorers in college basketball last season, but that's not why the Grizzlies will be in the hunt for him. A number of teams, including Memphis, believe he could also play the point. With the Grizzlies still less than confident in Mike Conley, that's the appeal.


    Oklahoma City
    (via Phoenix)

    Craig Brackins
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 229
    Age: 22
    School: Iowa State

    (Brackins' previous position: No. 26 to Oklahoma City)

    Analysis: Brackins would be a good pick for the Thunder. He's a high-character guy who can score inside and outside and will play hard. Right now, Nenad Krstic is the only big who can really get it done in the post. Brackins could be a nice long-term fit.


    New Jersey
    (via Dallas)

    Jordan Crawford
    Position: SG
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 198
    Age: 21
    School: Xavier

    (Crawford's previous position: NR)

    Analysis: The Nets were high on Terrico White earlier in the year, but appear to be gravitating toward either Crawford or Dominique Jones at No. 27. Both players are lights-out scorers and can handle the ball. What gives Crawford the slight edge is his shooting ability. He's got deep, deep range.


    Memphis
    (via L.A. Lakers)

    Larry Sanders
    Position: PF
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 222
    Age: 21
    School: Va. Commonwealth

    (Sanders' previous position: No. 28 to Memphis)

    Analysis: If the Grizzlies go with a wing and combo guard with their first two picks, they can swing for the fences with Sanders. With a freakish wingspan and terrific athleticism, Sanders could add a different look to the Grizzlies' frontcourt.

    Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph and Hasheem Thabeet are all big bodies, but none can run the floor and do the things Sanders can do.



    Orlando

    Armon Johnson
    Position: PG
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 195
    Age: 21
    School: Nevada

    (Johnson's previous position: No. 29 to Orlando)

    Analysis: It was pretty clear in the playoffs that the Magic could use some more help in their backcourt and, from the sound of things, Johnson has been impressing in workouts.

    He's a great athlete who can break down the defense and get to the basket. He's not a great shooter, but the Magic are already loaded with guys who can stretch the floor.


    Washington
    (via Cleveland)

    Quincy Pondexter
    Position: SF
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 220
    Age: 22
    School: Washington

    (Pondexter's previous position: No. 30 to Washington)

    Analysis: Pondexter is coming off a great senior season and is one of the best athletes in the draft. With the Wizards trying to rebuild with young players who can get up and down the floor, Pondexter seems like a good bet here.

    Next Five In: Keith Gallon, PF, Oklahoma; Terrico White, G, Mississippi; Willie Warren, G, Oklahoma; Devin Ebanks, F, West Virginia; Stanley Robinson, F, UConn
     
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    Thanks Egghead....every year when the draft and free agency begin.....ur my fav poster! Rep'd.
     
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    Doesn't he play for toronto?
     
  8. Egghead

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    its Armon Johnson not Amir Johnson
     
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    A bit older with no athleticism and not as much height or reach like Larry Sanders... he is the wrong choice. I so hope he is gone before we get our pick. Again this is a guy who exceled in college and it will not transfer to the NBA. Just say no. He will be an average player with average size for a pf and below average athleticism... Give me Larry Sanders Cole Aldrich Daniel orton and/or Hassan Whiteside any day over him... All hve much more upside and much more athleticism and or power.
     
  10. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Your Tweety Bird dance just cost us a run

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    very much agree
     
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    This.

    Do not want.
     
  12. davestrate

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    Chad Ford is becoming either a moron or redundant because why in hell would minnesota draft both johnson and paul (pretty much the same player with different levels of hype around each one). I would take Pual over Udoh in the 14th spot.


     
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    I have to say that I'm glad Morey doesn't think like you posters do.

    This time of the year just before the NBA draft allows all the "scouts" to rant and rave on how players are doing in workouts/highlight videos when in reality the proof's in the pudding. It's hard to take 1-on-1 and 3-on-3 drills and use that as evidence to overturn an entire year/multiple years of a body of work on the college hardwood.

    Right now the Rockets probably have the most video of players playing in college/intl games out of all the teams in the NBA. They're certainly not going to use one hot shooting day as a reason to overrule their years of work prior to this point. Just because Paul George or Larry Sanders measured out better than expected in the combine and look awesome when their best plays are parceled together on Youtube does not mean that their efficiency levels are anywhere near worthy of being taken in the lottery. Teams that draft them will be drafting on upside and won't be recouping on that in the next year by any means.

    Right now my hope is on trading up for a Monroe/Cousins type. If we stay pat I'm fine with Udoh or Whiteside, maybe Davis if he falls to us. I have a sad itch in an unscratchable part of my body that says we will pick Patterson, just because that is the most underwhelming pick we could possibly make at 14 besides Babbitt or something. And it would fit perfectly with our MO.

    Here are the blurbs on Sanders, George, and Udoh from Draftexpress. I am glad that Sanders has improved his post game but his bad jump shooting is a death sentence IMO. Rockets PF's absolutely need to have an outside shot; look at Jordan Hill vs Joey Dorsey and how fast they were able to get playing time. Paul George reminds me of Ariza's more than T-Mac's body like they're saying, but who am I kidding? Sometimes I feel like T-Mac's on the floor again when Ariza is playing. Anyways, I am against getting him because his team did horrible the two years he was at Fresno St, and all the warning signs are present in the scouting report; it's like deja vu--high TO rate, falls in love with his jump shot, mindboggling athleticism that makes you wonder why he doesn't use it more, not dogged enough to take it to the rack as much as he should, essentially no heart, etc. etc. With Udoh on the other hand I saw him progress throughout last season to the point where he was using his entire game, from the post-up moves to the face-up penetration ability and finally shooting his outside jumper pretty doggone well, that when Baylor's last game came he was the one absolutely carving Duke up inside (and this isn't your traditional unathletic Duke team, their main strength was their inside depth and rebounding ability). So I'll be just fine if we take him in a week.

     
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    Thanks KP, EH, and Smoothie
     
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    Just watched the Kings workout video of Orton, Udoh, Whiteside, Aldrich, and Richards. Orton looks the best to me. Udoh has very limited offensive skill set. Aldrich is a plodder with a funny looking jumper. Whiteside has smooth skills but not the body to bring it in the NBA and I doubt if he has the quickfire brain, seemed slow with comprehending what to do. Richards' jumper will never work in the NBA. He'll get blocked repeatedly and have to change his mechanics which will throw off his accuracy. He is nowhere near ready. Orton has the best chance to succeed next season.
     
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    Udoh played well last year at Baylor, he has a mid range shot and still is developing his post game...
     
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    Isn't the supposed knock on Udoh being that his game doesn't translate well into the pros? Considering how deeply Morey research qualities in college players that one can correlate to pro production(see why they picked Landry), I can't imagine him picking Udoh.

    Also, if the Rockets stay at 14, I honest to goodness believe Morey will go with a risky pick, high reward/risk type. A Paul George type, if you will. If the Rockets want to pick a safe player with no potential, they can buy 3 more 2nd round picks and get one from those.
     
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    I believe you are correct. I also feel that Morey will look into the possibility of using the 14th pick as part of a trade asset eg with Donte Greene.
     
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    I'm not a fan of any of the big men in the 7-20 area of the draft, other than Cole Aldrich, I think he's a sure thing solid NBA center, although almost no star potential. But having said that if the draft goes like this, I would like the rockets to draft Paul George or Xavier Henry. They are both great shooters, with great defensive potential, and star upside.

    I'm really not a fan of Udoh, I loved him in college, but his length and average leaping ability are gonna make translating to the NBA difficult.
     
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    Jopa quick question. Have you ever seen Udoh play? Your statement that Udoh has very limited offensive skill set makes me think you have never seen the kid play before.
     

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