Don't mean to troll too hard but where all those folks who hate on draymond green? Convinced he's a true stud yet?
Definitely not a system's player since every system would love a player who can pass, defend multiple positions, and shoot the 3 ball at a good clip playing the 5 position. I think the GSW's "system" focuses on being fundamentally sound and Green is a fundamentally sound player who also has great bball IQ. Green knows when and where players will on both sides of the floor. I hate his face but would love for him to be on my time.
I actually kind of hope curry stays out so gsw can show everyone how much better they are than everyone. No doubt Spurs and Cleveland will be hard but it would make the playoffs much more interesting. I love green. Personally think he's a top 10 player overall in the league. You obviously wouldn't build a team with him as your primary scorer, but him as your best player is very apparently still a quality team.
Green is exactly what is NOT a system player - he plays with heart, passion, effort, and those translate into success with ANY team.
I think the Warriors are on the Cavaliers' level without Curry, but they'd get smoked by the Spurs. For the sake of a good WCF and Finals, I hope Curry's back at full strength by then. But yeah, Green's at least a top-15 player and maybe a top-10. He just doesn't do it conventionally (big scoring). He's something like Scottie Pippen with less scoring and more power or Kevin Garnett with worse scoring and better passing. But, really, there probably hasn't been a player like him before.
You don't win 73 games with a one man show. GS has talent to spare, their second unit would probably make the playoffs in either conference
Only someone delusional believes the Warriors would beat the Spurs without Curry. Your love for Green makes you undervalue the MVP. Slogging through the Rockets and Blazers without Curry isn't that big a deal. Warriors can go in machine mode and beat lesser teams. Assuming Curry is back for game 3 against the Blazers and returns to form quickly, the WCF this year will be awesome.
No. Role players on great teams are always overvalued. Play them 30+ mins every game for an entire season and you'd see what they really are. If you took away Curry, Klay AND Green for an entire season, reality would smack that 2nd unit like a ton of bricks. Think about it: A team with Iggy, Livingston and Harrison Barnes as their top 3 players. They would be on life support by January.
Agree. Now Green is absolutely an all-star maybe even close to perennial all-star especially on a good team. I doubt you put him on the Sixers though and it changes their fortunes. The Warriors are loaded, the two teams they they have played thus far are at best above average. They don't need Curry at all for the Blazers, they can win that series in 5.
As long as you have one of the best scorers alongside him. If Draymond was the primary ballhandler instead of being a swingman, that team wouldn't be great. He needs a Curry or a Klay alongside him to be truly effective. That being said, he's one of the most impressive players to watch.
Draymond is Moreys wet dream. Very successful tweener forward. He does everything we need from a four.
OP is upset because people say Draymond is a role player? Chill out. People say stupid shizz all the time, especially on the internet. Hell, there are still people who say Kawhi Leonard is just a "system player". Just let them be, OP, and take comfort in knowing that nothing they say really matters in any meaningful way.
Not a system player but an all around great player who will make any team better purely with his intangibles like energy, heart, hustle and effort to go along with his trash talking, media interviews and his huge nostrils which are an added distraction
Let's take it a step further and get ridiculous (even though it's not really ridiculous). How many Cs in the NBA would you take over Green? Keep both ends of the floor in mind.
It really depends what you need and how your team is built. Defense and rim protection is definitely more important than any type of offense. So let's see. Assuming my team had quality leadership and I didn't need that Towns Cousins Whiteside Assuming my team needed leadership? I'd take green first.