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Perception of Rockets around the league?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OTMax, May 22, 2016.

  1. OTMax

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    Since a lot of fans and people on ESPN, TNT and what have you have become very negative about the Rockets this season, whether it be the organization as whole or certain individuals, with the looming signing of D'Antoni and obvious meddling of Leslie while losing out on some great coaches in the process, is the organization losing a lot of support and maybe even seen as dysfunctional, unprofessional or any other adjective fitting the negative view that we all see?

    I sincerely hope they do, because it's become kind of a joke. An owner not trusting his GM, Dwight Howard's doing the laundry during his PR tour, every analyst going crazy, mocking Morey and laughing at our current head coach hunt etc. It's time for Leslie to feel the embarrassment we feel as fans. This is a critical point for the future of the franchise and it's not being handled very well so far. I hope for a turnaround, but if we stay the course, hire D'Antoni and go all offense while Howard and Harden keep getting 'bad' media exposure, I do hope the media will blast us, fans will not turn up for games and all hell breaks lose.
     
  2. chandlerbang21

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    We had this same thread two weeks ago. Rockets are the laughing stock of the nba at the moment. Even the local sports personalities don't know what the hell they are doing and the national media discredits every facet of the team
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    We were already looked at in a bad light before this season.

    After this season and everything up to now, we are going to fall even deeper in their eyes. Only way to change that is to prove it on the court at this point.
     
  5. rocketman12

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    It's safe to say lots of people nationaly take delight in the rockets misery. People hate the way Harden plays. Dwight has a bad rep. Old school people hate Moreys analytics
     
  6. RedRedemption

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    Same light as people see the Kings.
    Dysfunctional team, organization.
    The star player is disliked.
     
  7. jae713

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    Was in San Antonio last week and can confirm that they think the Rockets are a hot mess right now. It's going to be an interesting off-season.
     
  8. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Well Rockets brought this upon themselves

    A fat egotistical GM who disrespects coaching and his entire shoot more 3's while having brickers philosophy has failed

    The same coward GM who has curled up and handed over the franchise to his priced acquisition, a flawed no D superstar in Harden and doing whatever it takes to appease him while not holding him accountable.

    An owner who has lost faith in the GM after 10 years of going nowhere and now thinks he knows more basketball than he really does.

    A completely dysfunctional team which has been coached terribly ever since McFail was hired and has all sorts of chemistry issues.
     
  9. Vivi

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    Joerger just signed for the Kings (worst franchise/managment ever)...that should tell you something.
     
  10. SirIvyLeague

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    Living in a different city where NBA basketball is quite big here are the thoughts:

    1) Everyone hates Dwight Howard. For the same reasons as we all know-- how he left Orlando, Dwightmare, drama queen, Dwert vs. Kobe, Durant calling him a p***y,etc.
    2) Everyone thinks Harden's a baller but just not committed.
    3) Everyone thinks Morey's sense of entitlement is ridic.
    4) Everyone thinks McHale was a top coach
    5) We're arguably the most hated team out there. Seriously.
     
  11. DonKnock

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    I'm pretty sure the Rockets were hated by many around the country, especially in the media prior to this past season. But at least last year, we had scoreboard. We made it to the WCF and had an historic comeback vs the Clippers.

    After this season's 41-41 disaster ending with the embarrassing 4-1 spanking at the hands of the mostly Curry-less Warriors, now the Rockets are not only hated by people everywhere, but their own fanbase has turned on them and there doesn't seem to be much light at the end of the tunnel.
     
  13. SF3isBack!!

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    Howard leaves and we're fine. Most of the hate comes from him and firing Mchale the way they did. If they were going to let him go it should have been a year earlier. Oh well, live and learn. Expectations likely will be low next season, if we play run and gun and get young players people will love the Rockets for being fighters.
     
  14. Vivi

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    Where do you live?

    Btw lol at the McHale top coach...but i believe you, i heard the same thing a lot...but yeah, at this point i think that fans of other teams just don't have enough or the same knowledge to be credible when they judge another team...i heard the same about Mark Jackson, Warriors fans hated him at some point, fans of other teams were laughing at him being fired for Kerr...
     
  15. Mathloom

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    I give a negative amount of f***s what other fans think of the Rockets.
     
  16. count_dough-ku

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    It's not the fans' opinions I care about. It's the rest of the league's. Thanks to Les' asinine "never build through the draft" policy, we're heavily reliant on the signing of free agents in order to build a contender. And if the entire NBA views the Rockets as a trainwreck, who's going to want to come here?
     
  17. jordnnnn

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    Guaranteed the doom and gloomers of clutchfans are the people with the least favorable view of the organization of any other basketball fans, players, writers, coaches and others who work in and around the league, while at the same time over rating how negatively those others view the Rockets organization.
     
  18. Mathloom

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    Who's the rest of the league and how do you know what they think and... why would you care what your competitor SAYS about you, given they are never going give you professional advice on how to get better?

    Here are the only times you will get some semblance of a distorted opinion what the media and executives think:

    - When awards come up, and they think Harden is a top 10 player this season, and a top 2 player the previous season. Also, Team USA believes he's amazing.

    - McHale and Morey have been in the running for awards but never won.

    - James Harden and his agent signed an extension when he could've been a FA.

    - Chris Bosh was going to sign here if the money was the same between Houston and Miami. It cost $25m to convince him to stay in Miami.

    - Dwight Howard left the Lakers - the first major FA in decades to do so - and could have signed with a huge number of teams, and he and his agent chose the Rockets at a discount.

    - Chandler Parsons and his agent accepted $15m plus a coach/owner lying to him saying he's a franchise player to join the Mavericks.

    - Carmelo Anthony chose to take $30m extra plus to stay in his hometown team which had no shot at winning soon over signing with the Rockets or Bulls.

    - LaMarcus Aldridge easily chose the Spurs over the Rockets. This makes total sense.

    - Kevin Durant is coming up and if he even sits with the Rockets it will be a miracle considering they currently have homecourt advantage against the 73-win Warriors after knocking out the Spurs.

    - Lebron wouldn't even take a meeting with the Rockets. He went to his hometown team, didn't consider anyone else.

    - Every major head coach who is not necessarily interested in being a GM has accepted an interview with the Rockets. We've left more people in the waiting list than vice versa, that's always a good sign.

    So, do you think what Mark Cuban thinks about the Rockets has any value at all?

    It is meaningless. This is a competition, we're not in it for people to like us. We're in it to win it and beat the rest of the league in the process. If you want hints about what the league thinks you have to look for relatively unbiased situations and that's usually with FA's and awards where we've done better than expected if you take an objective look at it. It doesn't really tell you anything you wouldn't know if you just looked at our season to season point differential and W-L record.

    This is not directed at you, but I'm getting tired of other posters saying insecure things like "the rockets have become a laughing stock" when they are just pulling it out of their a** and... IT DOESN'T MATTER. This isn't Keeping Up With the Kardashians, this is a competition and if you're doing your job right people will hate you for it.
     
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  19. Easy

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    Most of us living outside of Houston know this. (Except the McHale part. I don't know anyone who thinks McHale was a top coach. But he is widely respected, pretty much because he was a great player.)

    The Rockets personalities just aren't very endearing. Most superstars have fans outside of their own teams. Howard and Harden have very few fans who are not their teams' fans. Dwight used to have a lot of fans. But Dwightmare and the Lakers stint changed a lot of that. Now even Rockets fans are turning against him. Harden's game is just not very sexy for the casual fan.

    In short, a lot of people out there are happy to see the Rockets fail, much like how we have been happy to see the Lakers fail in the past few years.
     
  20. rockets13champs

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    If u live in another nba city like me people say the rockets are overrated team. I live in NY and people here have the Knicks they dont really care for other cities since the knicks have been out people have moved on to MLB no one cares for NBA now. People move on fast
     

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