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Does Daryl Morey Think the PG Position is Unimportant?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. kuku

    kuku Contributing Member

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    Morey loves PG's.

    He wanted to trade half the team for Rubio at draft day and thought he would bring championship to Houston. He thought CP3 was the greatest PG ever. The only problem is....he is terrible at evaluating PG talents and all PG's who he had ever acquired were recyclable goods.
     
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    Exactly. Morey is about as active a GM as there is in the NBA. But every GM with a roster approaching contender status will naturally make fewer and less disruptive moves. Are the Rockets a contender this season? Maybe. But this Rockets roster is more competitive than any Rockets roster in many years. Expect Morey to be cautious. Screwing around with the roster of a team with the fifth best record in the NBA with under 30 games to go would be very high risk.
     
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    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Are you serious?
     
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    Other than thinking Rubio could lead us to a title how exactly has he been terrible at evaluating point guards?
     
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    http://www.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Justice-Rockets-Adelman-politely-go-separate-1686888.php
    Only a fool believes CP3 is the greatest PG who had ever played the game.
     
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    I was just evaluating Morey based on his PG evaluations. Since you only gave two choices, what do you consider P Gasol trade? Valid or rumor (blocked by Stern)?
     
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    He did pick AB with a late first rounder. Picked up Lowry, Dragic and Bev for basically nothing. Brought Lin in pre Linsanity. I'd say he has an eye for talent at the 1.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    That is how it looks to me too, and maybe why Brooks signed here, knowing they would try to move Lin and open up playing time.

    DD
     
  10. tkrieger

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    The problem isn't Morey's point guard evaluations at face value...... The problem is Morey does not realize that the "Moreyball" offensive strategy greatly alters the skillset required to make PGs effective for this Rockets team.

    The "layups and threes" offense greatly changes the skillset required to be an effective point guard for this Rockets team. The problem is even good PGs for a traditional offense, who either disdain the three-point shot or don't shoot the three-point shot particularly well, would struggle in this current Rockets environment.

    Or to say it another way, point guards whose strengths are in the midrange game would likely struggle on the Rockets.

    This is why Kyle Lowry wanted out of Houston. And why Goran Dragic was able to raise his game since leaving the Rockets. And also why Jeremy Lin's game has painfully regressed since joining the Rockets.

    Morey didn't realize that Lin exemplary play in New York was from skills that would be stifled on our team. And because of that, he thought he could let Dragic slide and go after Lin.

    Conversely, both Dragic and Lowry have performed a lot better, since they've moved to traditional offenses. (After Lin joined the Rockets, his PER dropped five points. After Dragic left the Rockets, his PER rose five points.)

    This is why I thought Steve Blake, who isn't half the PG Rajon Rondo is, would have been a better fit for this team than Rondo. Blake is the far better three point shooter, where Rondo's game is midrange-centric.

    There are only two types of "point guards" that would flourish in the current Rockets environment. Those who can shoot the three ball well and are willing to shoot it, and those who can play defense. They really don't need traditional point guard skills.

    The ability to play defense is why Pat Beverley fits well on this club. And also why Jeremy Lin hasn't (yet) been dumped. And maybe why Aaron Brooks was let go. (But take away the defensive part, Brooks would have been a better fit for the Rox than Lin. Because otherwise, Brooks is the better three point shooter.)

    The one starting point guard that would fit well in the current Rockets environment would be the Heat's Mario Chalmers. He's maybe the best defensive point guard in the NBA, and doesn't need to contribute much offensively.
     
  11. RV6

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    i can't believe this thread went past page one...clearly, it's all situational
     
  12. kuku

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    AB, despite won MIP Award, was a defensive sieve. Now in his prime, he is getting bounced around in the league.

    Dragic is having an all star year, with ANOTHER team. Morey let him walked without getting anything back.

    Lowry is also performing like an all star after Gay trade, also playing for another team. If you have to make comparison, Steven Adams probably will never reach the impact level as Lowry. Morey timing in the trade was perfect and got us Harden. Can't complain here!

    Lin was let go the first time over Johnny now-playing-for-Melbourne-Tigers Flynn.

    Morey is not great at evaluating PG talents but he is our Warren Buffett in trades and accumulating assets. He picks up PG's when they have little value and turns them into assets. At times he would pick a stock at $5 and sold it at $10, only to see it went further up to $20.
     
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    PG is probably the most "unimportant" position of all, considering what it takes to win a championship. I've long been against sinking big money into the "point guard" position.
     
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    This analysis would be a lot better except for 2 things:

    1. Lowry came to Houston with a PER of 14.1, and left with a PER of 18.8. When Dragic came here, his PER was 11.2, and it was 18 when he left. Both made huge improvements in Houston.
    2. The last year Lowry and Dragic played here, we were 10th in 3P attempts and middle of the pack in midrange shots.
     
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    Good thinkin'
     
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    To say that Lowry and Dragic improved when they left is a lie, we knew every bit how damn good they were.

    They were very, very good PGs.
     
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    AB fans faint.
     
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    Maybe so. I also think Morey traded him as a promised favor...to get him back in the league with PT. I think Morey traded him to fulfill a promise.
     
  19. hotballa

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    I feel like I'm living a bad dream that repeats itself EVERY EFFING YEAR
     
  20. LosPollosHermanos

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    trades AB for Hamilton....-.-

    PGs are trading cards on the rockets.
     

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