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[Draft Lotto Reform] YOU'RE THE WORST draft

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SamFisher, May 13, 2015.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Thought this was interesting
    tl;dr

    Draft order is order of record, but prior to the season, each team gets to pick somebody else's draft pick. That way you have incentive to win, since it hurst others, but you also have a good shot at a higher pick if you suck.
     
  2. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    The entertainment value alone would be worth it. I would watch a simulcast of that GM meeting.
     
  3. what

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    This is so ignorant it is beyond words. The theory, i suppose being, well I'm to screw you for thinking I'm going to be last.

    You are taking somebody's draft position and making it even more random than it already is.

    And isn't there still the built in advantage of being last so you get to pick your horse in the following draft. Come'on man.
     
  4. rimbaud

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    It would make it a big problem to use future draft picks in a trade.
     
  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    You cant call that solution "reform" - lol. Draft Game of Thrones or something.
     
  6. peleincubus

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    chaos would be fun to watch
     
  7. J Sizzle

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    I just be the only person alive who is fine with tanking and the current formula.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    The power of What's non-endorsement has convinced me that this idea is worthy of further study.
     
  9. malakas

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    It is stupid and incredibly naive. The under the table dealings and politics would make the league even more rigged that it currently is.
    The american sport system with the franchises and no demotions, makes the draft and tanking an unavoidable byproduct. But it assures the most possible equality among all markets. Every good creates some bad and vice versa. It's how life works.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    You can already own other teams draft picks via trade. How would expanding it by making it effectively mandatory be any "more rigged"?

    THough evidently, the fact that you think the league is rigged currently probably answers my question already.
     
  11. malakas

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    ??? Trading for an asset like a pick is the same as getting a pick for nothing?

    We have enough teams tanking as it is vs teams that owe them their pick especially in the last month, with this format it will get worse and worse.
    Remember the Miami vs Philly game when both teams tried to actively lose.
    A complete and utter farce of what is basketball. I don't want to see more of it but less.

    And you can pretend that nothing is rigged in the NBA sure, and the world is black and white in your little naive bubble.
     
  12. Haymitch

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    I actually like that. Don't know if it'd be "good" but it'd be so interesting. Cuban would choose the Rockets draft pick every year to try to troll us.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    #13 SamFisher, May 13, 2015
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  14. SamFisher

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    Ummmm....you need to go back and read the article, it doesn't appear that you understood it.

    No teams would ever actively try to lose because it wouldn't benefit them on a given night unless they're playing a team whose pick they own.

    Currently you are rewarded for actively for losing 82 nights a year. Now at most it's 2 or 4 times a year.
     
  15. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN
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    I really like this. It's interesting and would be entertaining as hell.
     
  16. SeekingAlpha

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    Where does the bolded come into play? Seems like teams with terrible management and ownership will just be even more disadvantaged.
     
  17. Ender120

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    He's an *******, but he's not stupid.
     
  18. bobloblaw

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    What about creating a rule restricting a team from abusing the draft year after year? It's pretty difficult to tank one year and be relevant the next. Maybe create a rule that if you draft top-___ (1,5,10) you are disqualified from drafting that high the following year. You could vary the term based on how high the pick is: a team that drafts #1 can't again for 5 years. Draft top 5: can't again for two years. However you'd want to structure it.

    They could also go a snake draft route. Because the talent is so incredibly high in the 1st I think it would work theoretically to lessen the advantage. Then again, 2nd round picks are pretty worthless.

    I don't see how tanking is a problem. Unless the 76ers suddenly become relevant the entire concept of tanking is dumb. Tanking is its own punishment in terms of fan support, revenue, team morale, player development and potential FA signings.
     
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  19. ThatBoyNick

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    The whole point of it would be to take away some of the incentive to loose, which is good.

    But, there would still incentive to loose because the worst teams still get to pick first, so I honestly don't think it would change much.

    Tanking isn't a game to game thing that players choose to do, it's a general manager thing that occurs over multiple seasons. So I don't think the change in those incentives would make too much of a difference in tams that are tanking.

    Not that I see a problem with tanking anyways, it's rebuilding through the draft with the price of sucking for multiple seasons, it's just how it is and teams should have the right to do that.
     
  20. professorjay

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    It would be interesting to see how the game theory plays out if people really looked deep into it.
     

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