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Should we celebrate Columbus day?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Miracles Boys33, Oct 13, 2014.

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  1. Miracles Boys33

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HappyColumbusDay?src=hash">#HappyColumbusDay</a>? Some say we should celebrate Indigenous People's Day instead: <a href="http://t.co/a9B63t9Qgo">http://t.co/a9B63t9Qgo</a> <a href="http://t.co/IK7nMOgEvy">pic.twitter.com/IK7nMOgEvy</a></p>&mdash; CNN (@CNN) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNN/status/521661238418620416">October 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


    Instead of Columbus Day, some U.S. cities celebrate Indigenous People's Day
     
  2. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    Why not both?
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I don't, I think it's dumb.
     
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    Could change it to Amerigo Vespucci day.
     
  5. HTown_DieHard

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    that's too italian & we all know how Americans feel about that.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Agreed, we should all celebrate the fact that they largely wasted their time on this planet to the point where they weren't able to defend their homeland against cultures that developed faster. It would probably still be their homeland had they not been content to live at sustenance level and better prepared to defend and keep their home.
     
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    I read "Indigenous Peoples Day" as "Ingenious Peoples Day" and I was totally for it.
     
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    Literally, everybody in the way world was a dick back then. I remember reading about how the two biggest intellectuals in England in the 1600 used to throw dead dog corpses at each other for fun.

    And the Native Americans could go toe to toe with the Europeans in this regard. Their only deficiency relative to the Europeans was one of ambition and grand vision.

    Trying to turn history into some sort of "morality play" narrative is stupid.
     
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    No, I have no idea what you're trying to say.
     
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    You watched "last week tonight"? That is a great show btw.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    FIFY

    Had the simply killed Columbus his whole crew and all that followed . . . . .then they would be thriving today

    Goes to show. . . . be an A-hole . . . Being Evil Vile is more profitable.

    Rocket River
     
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    I doubt it, they did very little in 14,000 years or so, it was only a matter of time before a culture that did more with their time came in and took over. An extra year or two wouldn't have helped.

    Life is hard, get a helmet.
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Irony. :)
     
  15. juicystream

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    How about getting rid of so many holidays?
     
  16. SamFisher

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    Columbus was uniquely awful though, failing to meet even the low standards of his day; he wasn't guilty of being a flawed human being, he was a real ****head.
     
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    This is related to your view on Israel right?
     
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    The only time I did was during elementary school in NYC. Totally unnecessary, but not worth getting upset over
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Not directly, but I see what you're getting at. It's sort of a general philosophy about "rights" and ownership.
     
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    Other representatives of the Spanish queen in the Americas:
    Nuño de Guzmán
    Francisco Pizarro
    Hernán Cortés

    Local leaders:
    Moctezuma (who provably killed more people than everyone else on the list together)
    Pachacutec Inca Yupanqui

    European competition:
    Francis Drake
    Walter Raleigh (actually, as he popularized tobacco, he can probably claim the most corpses)

    There were also a whole bunch of nasty Dutch guys whose names I can't recall.

    In that company, I wouldn't call him particularly remarkable.
     
    #20 Ottomaton, Oct 13, 2014
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