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[Movie] Gone Girl (directed by David Fincher, starring Ben Affleck)

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  1. TdashDUB

    TdashDUB Contributing Member

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    Just watched it. FANTASTIC. David Fincher is one of the greatest directors doing it today.

    Warning: Long winded explanations for many of the people that seemingly missed the point....

    This movie was amazing. Of course, not every detail given in the book will be fleshed out on screen. But seeing as the writer of the novel also penned the script, it's safe to say the adaptation was pretty spot on.

    The people complaining are either nit picking or missed several points.

    The film's three acts each weaved through a different genre.
    1st = Mystery. A whodunnit and how.
    2nd = Suspense. Race for the upper hand before the other gets it.
    and... (where I think most got lost)
    3rd = SATIRE. It took a satirical look on marriage as an inescapable prison, amped to 11.

    All glued together by shining a harsh light on media and its (often incorrect) influence.

    I loved how Finch didn't opt for your typical "Hollywood ending". People here were disappointed, but would you have rather them shoe horn a concrete conclusion by Affleck killing her? Getting revenge in other ways? She getting arrested? It'd take away from the overall message.

    Listen to the opening dialogue and how we thought "wtf?" Only to bookend the story with the same scene and being left with a different perception. Only now we think "Geez.. No ****"

    You have to keep in mind: They've depicted Amy as the most calculating character in the story. Always several steps ahead. All of the dramatics were plotted and had a point. She always had a leverage chip ready in the chamber. This explains her hoarding Nick's sperm and going as far as using it/the baby to keep Affleck quiet/staying with her. By this point, Affleck knows the manipulating monster that she is and that his attempts at calling her bluff futile.

    Example: Stuff like her driving all the way, still covered in blood was a bit melodramatic.. Yeah. That's the point. Exactly why she did it. The media being there in drones is the sole reason she did such a thing. It perpetuated the sensationalist headlines that the news and audiences eat up and tacked on the "horror" of being held captive at the lake house to fuel further empathy. She spun an already terrible story from more tragic to a triumphed ending "reuniting with her loving husband."

    The same husband people blasted as being an incestual murderer.

    This explains why the police or FBI never bothered looking deeper into the case after Amy returns. Also illustrated when the FBI were asking Amy questions. They didn't care that she was "under heavy sedatives" nor did they pay any mind to the hard hitting questions that Detective Boney (who had been on the case from the start, mind you) was asking. They even shunned her input with a resounding eye roll. That scene translates to the further investigations, or lack there-of. Detective Boney even said during the final team meeting that she had no grounds to push forward with the investigation because the powers that be already saw it as an open and shut case and it would only hurt her reputation.

    The whole point of the movie is that, more often than we care to admit, WE DO over look the truth in search of the easier answers that fit the preconceived pictures that we as a society paint before ever getting the facts. Once again illustrated with Boney and her assistant, Officer Gilpin.

    Gilpin: "You ever hear the expression the simples answer is often the correct one?"
    Boney: "Actually, I have never found that to be true"

    On numerous occasions, Gilpin was ready to just throw the book at Affleck and call it a day. Gilpin represents YOU. Us. The audiences watching the movie and mostly, the audiences watching Nancy Grace.

    Also, to add on to what mrm32 highlighted:
    One thing I wished they had done that they over emphasized in the book is how much Affleck's father was absent and how much he resented him for it. This gives a little more weight to the idea of Affleck sticking around so that he doesn't become his worst fear: His father.

    That the (fake) baby had "died" at the hands of NPH

    Because they were just dumb enough to know she was on the run for what-ever reason but too dumb to connect the dots and see that she WAS Amy. They just knew a couple things weren't adding up and once they saw the money spill out at the putt-putt course, that's the only thing they saw. Money snatchin' opportunity.

    How do you figure??? If I'm not mistaken, she was there well over a month. With majority of her days spent alone while NPH was doing his money-makin-thang. Plus they had showed her constantly fidgeting with the camera system.

    The kid is his. He's already been ran through the ringer by the world. He's the one who legitimately wanted a kid in the first place where she didn't. He has no money if he leaves, and would obviously (by society's standards) lose all custody of his child. And is now fully aware of how powerful of an influence she wields on his world. He's a prisoner.

    And that my friends, is one twisted, heavy blowing way of satirizing the beauty of marriage.


    Nick: "F!ck. You're delusional. I mean, you're insane, why would you even want this? Yes, I loved you and then all we did was resent each other, try to control each other. We caused each other pain."

    Amy: ".....That's marriage"
     
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  2. Deckard

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    Just saw it.

    Loved the flick
    until the ending,
    which blew chunks.
     
  3. Behad

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    Whether it was Missouri, New York or anywhere, surely it was more than a short drive from her home. Why risk getting seen by someone you know? It had to be some distance away, which is why it makes no sense to drive all the way back home covered in blood. Call the cops.
     
  4. apollo33

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    gots to put on a show for all the TV stations at his house
     
  5. No Worries

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    If it is not crystal clear, ...

    This is *not* a date movie.
     
  6. ynelilvs99

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    lol nope
     
  7. SuperBeeKay

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    there's a HUGE plot hole

    So she makes to NPH's awesome lake house ecept she realizes that he's a bigger threat than ben affleck. So she's faking her rape but my question is, if she shows up back to society, why are the cops so damn incompetent?

    MY complaint is that anybody who is claiming rape and theres blood all over doesnt drive all these miles to make it home; they call the cops after they kill him/her. But in the movie she doesnt. In addition, there's clearly video evidence of her being unbound at the house when she fakes her rape with the red wine; and considering that NPH was the only other person to ever enter/leave the house, it doesnt make sense that the cops somehow dont come across this paradox; a woman claiming to be bound/tied and starved at the house but there's evidence of her fingerprints EVERYWHERE in the house (Especially the ipad). Surely, the cops would have throroughly searched the house and realized that she wasn't bound nor raped (no semen either)

    Also, Casinos have ****ing awesome cameras/surveillance system
     
  8. sammy

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    ^It's a movie. You're overthinking it. Lol
     
  9. mfastx

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    You forgot to close your spoiler, lol.
     
  10. MosKeemYao

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    As someone has stated before the last part is a satire, she knew the camera angles and blind spots so that is why she was in secluded areas when "creating" the rape evidence, why would the cops investigate if it looks open and shut? (simple answer is usually the best answer fallacy) the movie left hints to its satire some subtle some loud, you probably would get it on a second view when you aren't focused on your anger for that conniving woman.
     
  11. SuperBeeKay

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    So what is it satirizing? Maybe I missed the entire point but that plot hole I mentioned still bugs me
     
  12. TdashDUB

    TdashDUB Contributing Member

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    Yeah.. Seems like people didn't even bother to read my hard work analysis :( lol
     
  13. SC1211

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    Very mediocre Fincher flick. Dialogue is cheesy at times, way too long and drags on a bit. Acting performances are dull.
     
  14. Throttle

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    sounds like a p*rn flick lolz
     
  15. tallanvor

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    I have had multiple people tell me they walked out of the movie because the dialogue was so bad. I'll probably wait until its online to watch.
     
  16. SwoLy-D

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    :confused: Did you miss something during the movie? You might be right about the first sentence, though.

    I believe you're incorrect about his position on that from the beginning. He didn't want that. SHE is the one that did and offered to do that first. He didn't want it. I'm hoping someone else chimes in and either supports your theory here or remembers what I'm talking about here.
    I agree with this, because the story is far-fetched FICTION and A MOVIE. :cool:

    I agree with all this ^ .

    Cinematography, scenery, edits, and overall technical aspects are all awesome, though. Producers went out of their way to present a good story in a good way. Actors and screenwriter, not so much.
     
  17. sammy

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    They sound like movie snobs.

    The movie was entertaining and it was well worth my time and money.
     
  18. tallanvor

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    They don't walk out of many movies; so no. Ben Affleck is a pretentious actor and others in this thread have brought up the same criticism.
     
  19. apollo33

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    still far from a movie you would walk out of.
     
  20. TdashDUB

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    Nah brah.
    You're putting too much weight into the "first" conversation shown on screen about them having a baby. Out of context, it sounds like she wants the baby and he doesn't.. LATER, we find out that he wanted the baby from the get-go (to prove himself a better person/father than his Father ever was to him), but after a year and a half of unhappiness and creepin' with Blurred Lines chick, she 'all the sudden' thinks it's time for a baby. Which puts what he says, "we're not going to be the couple that has a baby to save our marriage", under a different light than when we first heard it because we were hearing it from Amy's DIARY's-perspective.

    Go back and listen to Affleck's conversation with his sister when the baby is first brought up. Everything Affleck says in that scene is the proper context/truth to the matter.

    It's like me wanting you to retire from the board so badly so I could properly enjoy my time here but you refusing, only for you to finally decide 1-2 years later to retire once I'm leaning towards hanging it up myself. ;):p

    But yeah. The first talk/scene of them having a baby together was from Amy's diary perspective to further build Nick's "motive" to kill her. Hence the annoying neighbor unknowingly turning the pregnancy table on Nick. "He wanted her murdered so he didn't have to put up with her and her baby!"
     
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