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We may have reached the Apocalyptic Scenario with Antibiotics

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Pretty scary stuff that we could be coming to a post antibiotic world where a simple cut could kill you from infection. Makes me think twice about getting any elective surgery.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/anti...bugs-are-causing-bacterial-infections-2014-12

    We May Have Reached The 'Apocalyptic Scenario' With Antibiotics

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Tom Frieden made headlines last year when he proclaimed that the United States would "soon be in a post-antibiotic era," meaning we'd be plagued by everyday infections that our drugs could no longer handle.

    It appears that age is already on our doorstep.

    Newborns in India are now dying at alarming rates from infections that were once curable, The New York Times reported on Thursday. The same deadly “superbugs” are spreading around the globe and have already come to the United States, fueled in part by our country's overuse of antibiotics on farms and in hospitals.

    The problem isn't just the bacteria — it's the fact that the drugs we once relied on to kill them no longer work.
    Smart Bacteria

    Doctors commonly treat bacterial infections with antibiotics. When one drug doesn't work, they try another. But now, physicians are finding that some of our infections are resistant to even our strongest antibiotics.

    The bacteria have, genetically speaking, outsmarted us.

    Last year, nearly a quarter of a million Americans died from bacterial infections that didn't respond to antibiotics. Certain strains of "nightmare bacteria" kill up to half of the patients they infect, and cases are becoming increasingly common across 42 states.

    Several diseases that the US has kept in check with antibiotics have developed antibiotic-resistant strains, including gonorrhea, which is sexually transmitted and infects more than 100 million people a year, and tuberculosis, a serious lung infection that's returned with a vengeance across several continents in recent years.
    An 'Apocalyptic Scenario'

    In cases of severe infection, when bacteria are not responding to an initial round of antibiotics, doctors may turn to carbapenems, a stronger, "second-line" class of drugs. But a group of Indian scientists in Mumbai told Nature in 2012 that half of the bacterial samples they had collected from patients with infections were resistant to carbapenems, compared with just 30% of such samples a few years ago.

    It's not just the US and India that are sounding the alarm bells on superbugs — earlier this year, the UK's chief medical officer Sally Davies said an "apocalyptic scenario" would be upon us this century unless we began taking extreme measures to stop it.

    The worst-case-scenario situation would take humanity about a century back in time in terms of deaths from infections, when 1 in 9 skin infections killed and routine surgeries were considered super risky (since any incision left you open and vulnerable to infection).

    In India, that scenario may already be unfolding.

    Last year, 58,000 newborns there died of bacterial infections that didn't respond to antibiotics. "While that is still a fraction of the nearly 800,000 newborns who die annually in India," Gardiner Harris writes in The Times, "Indian pediatricians say that the rising toll of resistant infections could soon swamp efforts to improve India’s abysmal infant death rate." (India already has one of the highest rates of newborn death in the world.)

    "Five years ago, we almost never saw these kinds of infections," New Delhi neonatologist Neelam Kler told The Times. "Now, close to 100% of the babies referred to us have multi-drug resistant infections. It's scary."

    The bacteria are likely transferred to newborns from the mother, who comes into contact with them just like everyone else — via the water, animals, and soil in her surroundings. Unlike adults, however, newborns are especially vulnerable to infection since their immune systems haven't had a chance to develop completely yet.

    A Vicious Cycle

    A nightmarish combination of crowded slums, a lack of toilets, and the country's severe over-reliance on antibiotics (doctors and pharmacists give them out for everything from undiagnosed to mild infections) is making India's problem worse. Plus, getting antibiotics almost never requires a prescription.

    That's not to say severe infections — ones that actually require antibiotic treatment — don't happen. With half the population relieving themselves outdoors, bacterial infections are rampant. Powerless to address the root problems, however, doctors simply give out as many antibiotics as they can.

    One study found that, among adults in New Delhi, close to half of the patients at public facilities and nearly 70% of the patients at private facilities were given antibiotics for acute diarrhea. Among children, about a quarter of those at public facilities and 52% of those at private facilities were given the drugs.

    Acute diarrhea is a severe infection that comes on suddenly and, in adults, typically disappears on its own in a couple weeks. Among children younger than 4, it can be deadly. Most importantly, about three-quarters of the world's acute diarrhea cases are caused by viruses, not bacteria.

    Instead of plying patients with drugs that likely won't work, the WHO and the UN International Children's Emergency Relief Fund recommends doctors give patients water enriched with electrolytes (to keep them hydrated) and zinc.

    "This study clearly showed the irrational use of antibiotics for the treatment of acute diarrhea in children and adults that warrants interventional strategies," the study authors wrote.

    It's a troubling scenario, but India is far from alone in contributing to the problem.

    In the US, as many as half of antibiotic prescriptions are unnecessary, and American farmers continue to overuse them in pigs, cattle, and chickens, creating stronger, more resistant bacterial strains. Between 2000 and 2010, international sales of antibiotics for human use shot up 36%, the New York Times reports, with Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa making up three-quarters of that increase.
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    This will get us way before AI becomes a problem.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    Not trying to be heartless, but this is probably not such a bad thing.

    The planet is already way above carrying capacity. Kill off a few billion, and we might last quite a bit longer as a species.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Is this how it ends?

    Doctors way over prescribe them.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    How is it over carrying capacity?
     
  7. Two Sandwiches

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    I've heard this for years, though.
     
  8. Mr. Brightside

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    The best prevention for this scenario is to not get sick.
     
  9. Ottomaton

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    Doctors don't gaf now. Proof: ebola joe was given antibiotics and sent home.

    In china antibiotics are over the counter and generally taken like cold pills.
     
  12. Scarface281

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    I'll just smoke more weed.
     
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    We just don't care enough about it and most of us probably don't understand the problem and its severity. Maybe if some famous celebrity develops incurable skin condition from acne bacteria or if Hollywood actors/actresses begin to develop career-ending disfiguring infections after cosmetic surgeries will people start to care.
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    The solution is to get sick and let your body build up some immunities. It is why the Europeans were able to kill off the native americans.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    And like they've said it's getting worse every year.
     
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    Any organism having that much sex with itself is definitely vulnerable. Or snap. They figured it all out and have maximized their happiness.
     
  17. Ottomaton

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    Maybe you should read it again.

    [Rquoter]
    Most contemporary estimates for the carrying capacity of theEarth*under existing conditions are between 4 billion and 16 billion. Depending on which estimate is used, human overpopulation may or may not have already occurred. Nevertheless, the rapid recent increase in human population is causing some concern. The population is*expected*to reach between 8 and 10.5 billion between the year 2040[10][11]*and 2050.[12]*In May 2011, the United Nations increased the medium variant projections to 9.3 billion for 2050 and 10.1 billion for 2100.
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    Without technology fixes, namely pesticides and fertilizers, we would have run out of food a long time ago, unless we forced everybody to become vegetarian.
     
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    it hurts me to say this but this a failure of the free market. we need govts to step up and make sure docs arent giving too many pills for everytime you cough. sometimes you gotta be tough it out. cant take a pill for everything. these germs breed faster than we can make pills so we gotta stop them from becoming supergerms.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    What does may or may not mean to you?

    It apparently means definitely yes.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    That'll work out well
     

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