Should Morey be demoted or given a different role?

If you want him to leave, then yes demote him to the assistant of the position he's held for 9 years.

If you don't want him to leave, don't do that.

 

I'm warming to the Idea DD was flouting around about having a real Basketball mind in an office above Morey.

We need a Jerry West type to oversee Morey and help him evaluate talent.

 

There are no Jerry West types to go get, lulz. I cant really think of anyone better with talent than Morey that would be reasonably available. Nobody can. They don't exist. Y'all want Rudy T? Last I checked the CBA disbanded and Maurice Taylor plays ball at Lifetime Fitness.

While y'all are getting me a Jerry West go ahead and draft me a Larry Bird and get me a date with that chick from True Detective episode 2.

 

I'd be down for having someone else as GM with Morey as an assistant. I'm also okay if we drop Morey altogether and get someone new. I still like Morey and I'm not advocating to fire him, but if they did I won't be crying foul either. He really does seem pretty good as an asset manager, but he's amassed a lot of power over the team, setting what the team portfolio should look like, setting the coaching philosophy, and so on, and he seems to be less great in some of those areas. If there is someone better to be had for leadership, maybe we should go that way, and Morey would still be great for analytics, advice and deal-making. And, if he quit, oh well.

 

No, Morey is a strength to the organization.

 

Demote to Head Coach. If he has this plan, 3&D, Layups included, who better to make the parts fit into the whole?

 

and I think Harden is a defensive asset to this organization as well

 

What an embarrassing admission.

Random inquiry - Morey has worked as a GM of an NBA team or an assistant GM for over 13 years.

At what point in time does he qualify as a "real basketball mind" - 20 years? 30? Or is it because he knows what a pivot table is, he can never be one.

 

I don't have 100% trust in Morey as a talent evaluator. I just don't. Attack if you want but I don't think Morey can go against his data when it comes to taking chances on players. He's past on so many better players in order to draft for need.


I don't think he can see the locker room chemistry issues when it comes to adding players to the team. I think he's an outsider and can not relate to what players and coaches go though in the locker room. 13 years sitting in an office with 6 under the great Danny Ainge (FORMER PLAYER) doesn't change that.

 

I saw Brian Skinner at the gym if anyone wants him to replace moopie

 

So basically your answer is "never."

He will never become a basketball person even though he will probably put in 20+ years of his working career in the NBA, and he will always be an "outsider"

 

Moronic is an idiot GM that banked on the woes of other teams to get players. He's does nothing positive for the organization and we would be much better off without him

 

Exactly.

Morey detractors don't realize the amount of success the guy has had as our GM. People view him as a computer science guy who doesn't understand basketball. The problem is, the media and TV shows have depicted analytics to be a dispassionate and insulated form of running a sports team. This couldn't be farthest from the truth. People assume that scouts and other sources of information are completely overlooked. Then, when a team that uses analytics has an inevitable down year everyone clamors that the computer is dead and sports needs to be governed by the athletes and such.

Analytics is a conversation starter, and without any real sports knowledge analytics is powerless. Morey has basketball minds around him, and they sometimes buck the trend of what analytics says to do. I think people around here watched Moneyball a bit too many times and think that's how this whole thing works. Its much, much more complicated than that.

 

Thought it was interesting on one of Bill Simmons podcast a few weeks ago. His buddy House the Wizards fan said something like if Houston foolishly cans Morey and my Wizards don't scoop him up immediately I'm gonna be upset.

Just the pov of a fan from another team, but I'd say he knows his bball and the league more than just your average joe.

 

That's a very reasonable hope. To hire a guy with a great track record who is out of a job.

Unreasonable = GET ME A JERRY WEST!

 

Like Morey will accept anything that can be construed as a demotion. Morey is as arrogant and haughty as they come. This guy thinks he's solved basketball and is smarter than people who have played the game for decades. He wants lapdogs for coaches and just wants to number crunch thinking that will win him a championship.

 

Yeah and their nothing wrong with that. Some GM's don't have NBA experience either (Presti) and are ok.


No-one is saying get Jerry West but what about Morey hiring an ex player like Battier as an assistant to help him feel out players?


WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT!

 

Right. Because a transition from Mac & Yao to H&H without tanking is easy. Also, the Rockets went the WCF last season on a broken and injured team running two 36+ year old PGs against arguably the two best PGs in the game in Paul and Curry. In spite of all that was against them that team did a lot. We had a down year this year, that's it. It's a statistical inevitability.

Luck rewards the prepared, and no one is as prepared for some good luck than Morey. It isn't enough to hope things will change, you have to position yourself accordingly, such that when change comes you're ready to embrace it. If you think he's a bad GM, go be a suns fan or something like it.