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07-23-2012, 01:31 AM
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Does this actually work? Good for gaining weight and muscle mass? If so, how should i take it and when?
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07-23-2012, 01:45 AM
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You dont need it. It's all water retention. Just stick to whey isolate and a healthy diet, brah
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07-23-2012, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by paulftsk
You dont need it. It's all water retention. Just stick to whey isolate and a healthy diet, brah
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what do you take? you seem pretty swoll brah
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07-23-2012, 05:30 AM
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I took BSN Cell Mass a few years ago. Went to the gym about 4x a week. Tripled in muscle size..Everyone thought I was on steroids. Then I went to college, partied hard, and quit working out. It all turned into fat..Probably at least 70 pounds overweight now
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07-23-2012, 06:25 AM
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Yes, it works. Dont believe people who say it's just water retention...
But, I wouldn't take it. I have before, but I try to stay away from everything except natural protein. Unless you're working on becoming a professional athlete or a body builder, try and keep as much crap out of your body. Just my opinion.
Eat healthy, eat plenty (if trying to bulk up).
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07-23-2012, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulftsk
You dont need it. It's all water retention. Just stick to whey isolate and a healthy diet, brah
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07-23-2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by paulftsk
You dont need it. It's all water retention. Just stick to whey isolate and a healthy diet, brah
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Muscle is 75% water.
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07-23-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by paulftsk
You dont need it. It's all water retention. Just stick to whey isolate and a healthy diet, brah
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This ^, don't listen to anyone else....Once you stop taking that stuff you deflate......its crap.
Take some Casein before bed, and make sure you don't go to bed on an empty stomach. I know a lot of people say your not supposed to eat 3 hours before bed or whatever, but thats when your body is feeding your muscles so your not having any food for 8 hours...so it doesn't make sense to me.  The casein helps with that in that it is absorbed slowly over a span of 8 hours....
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07-23-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodman23
This ^, don't listen to anyone else....Once you stop taking that stuff you deflate......its crap.
Take some Casein before bed, and make sure you don't go to bed on an empty stomach. I know a lot of people say your not supposed to eat 3 hours before bed or whatever, but thats when your body is feeding your muscles so your not having any food for 8 hours...so it doesn't make sense to me.  The casein helps with that in that it is absorbed slowly over a span of 8 hours.... 
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If you're seeking sweet dreams, avoid eating before bedtime. While no conclusive studies prove that eating before bed leads to weight gain, eating too much food, or eating spicy foods, fatty foods and caffeine one to three hours before bedtime can reduce the quality and length of your sleep, making you fatigued, sluggish and generally not fun to be around the next day. Eating fatty foods before bed will slow down the emptying of the stomach, exacerbating indigestion, while spicy foods can lead to heartburn and indigestion.
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07-23-2012, 01:17 PM
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Eating food and drinking Casein protein shakes before bed after two different things. Casein works best at night because it's clean, slow digesting protein opposed to having your body digest a full meal full of protein, different types of carbs, and fats while you're sleeping. Even though I'm not a complete believer in "not eating meals after a certain hour", I understand the theory.
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HE IS SLOW. :eek:
Wow. He's not athletic at all. He's going to bust lol.
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07-23-2012, 01:21 PM
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it's like i'm in 1999 all over again.
how much you bench press?
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07-23-2012, 01:34 PM
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Citing AskMen and their contributing authors on this is sorta silly. Going 8 hours without eating is no big deal. However, if you're trying to put on muscle I would advise against it.
You actually burn more calories sleeping than you do sitting on your couch watching TV. Eight hours (or 11 if you abide by the 3 hours before bed rule) without food will leave your body depleted of glucose. Without glucose (or glycogen which breaks down to glucose) your body has to catabolize protein (from muscle) to produce glucose.
You might say your body will turn to fat for its energy needs and this is true to a degree. The problem is your body cannot convert fatty acids or any of its ketone body products to glucose (to any significant degree, anyway), which needs to be constantly maintained.
Something like a banana, oatmeal, and milk will not keep you up. In fact, serotonin levels should be boosted by that type of meal allowing you to sleep easier.
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07-23-2012, 01:38 PM
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Creatine monohydrate has been the only workout supplement that has worked for me and I'm the ultimate definition of a hard-gainer.
I've tried the mass gainers along with regular whey isolates combined with large meals, yet I've never been able to really put on muscle mass until I started taking creatine supplemented by regular whey protein.
I shot up 150 lbs to 165 lbs in about 7 months when taking creatine and lifting 4-5 times a week. Creatine definitely works, but always remember to drink plenty of water as it is hard on your kidneys.
Also, stick to the powder form. Don't take pills.
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07-23-2012, 01:49 PM
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My friend took that stuff and after stopping had all sorts of stamina issues and asthmatic problems.
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07-23-2012, 02:02 PM
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Take creatine for a month and go off of it completely. You'll lose a lot of your gains within the first two weeks. If you do take it, I'd suggest you cycle it. So if you plateau, I'd go on it for a short period of time to get over that hump.
Don't listen to these skinny scrubs. You'll see gains for sure, but it's better to just eat healthy and make progress that way. If you take creatine, definitely drink a ton of water.
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07-23-2012, 10:41 PM
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When lifting really heavy, say 70-80% of your max, it helps you push out another 2-3 reps. This can make a significant difference in muscle size if you stick to it over 3-6 months, aside from the water retention. But unless you are a pro, you wont be able to keep up this regimen and will eventually lose the gains and become a supplement junkie trying to keep that size.
Go hard with good form(double/triple sets if you have to), eat well with god protein regimen and sleep well. Father time takes care of the rest.
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07-23-2012, 11:13 PM
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Be careful with creatine bro. You don't want to end up this like anonymous online poster.
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On a cold Friday afternoon, I had come home from school. I had been thinking of the gym all day. I was hungry, didn't have any lunch. In fact, I didn't eat because I spent the money. For the past month I was saving up for something. Something special which I bought at GNC. I was surprised they didn't ask for ID; I was pretty sure the cashier noticed how nervous I was. Anyways, my mom asked my how my day was when I got home, but I ignored her. I have more important things to do. I run to the bathroom and unpack my bag. In my school bag is a white plastic bag from GNC. I open the bag, first removing the receipt and flushing it down the toilet to get rid of the evidence. My heart was racing now. I unpack the creatine monster from the bag.
I wonder what people will be asking me when they see that I will be 50lbs heavier. Should I say I was just eating a lot? I remove the label from the tub and tear it into a thousand small pieces. I flush that down the toilet, too. It is time now. I run up to my room when my mom ask me what I am holding. I panic, sweat drips down my forehead and my teeth chatter. "Mom, it's just for a school project". "What project?" "I don't know mom I just started it!". A tear runs down my cheek. I run upstairs and open the creatine, scooping upservings into a clear water bottle. What have I gotten myself into? I fill it with water and drink it. There is no turning back now. The creatine monster is inside me now, it will control me. What should I do if I die? I cant let my family know about this.
I open the creatine tub and throw it all out the window; a white cloud of mysterious dust sparkles into the wind so graciously. I feel the substance taking control of me; I am now the monster. I walk downstairs, its time to work out; time to get big. Now I worry, I don't want to get too big; people will think I use steroids. I do use steroids. No I don't. Creatine. All I see is the weights now, I am almost downstairs when I hear "Do you want a cookie I just baked". I know I do not have time for this **** now. "No mom I do not want a cookie" I walk in the basement and drop to my knees before the weights, tears running down my cheeks. I turn to the right and look at myself in the mirror. Oh god, what have I done?
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07-23-2012, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by London'sBurning
Be careful with creatine bro. You don't want to end up this like anonymous online poster.
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Riveting story.
Would read again.
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07-23-2012, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by London'sBurning
Be careful with creatine bro. You don't want to end up this like anonymous online poster.
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lolwut...
I don't even understand that...
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