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Why White People Freak Out When They're Called Out About Race

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    http://www.alternet.org/culture/why-white-people-freak-out-when-theyre-called-out-about-race

    'White fragility' is a defensive response to real conversations about race.


    Interesting stuff
    Seen a bunch of it in this every own D&D

    Rocket River
     
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  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Oh it's about to get damn fragile in here. But... Al Sharpton! Heheh
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Oh wow, if someone said that to me I don't know what I'd do. Honestly, how do you tell someone that they have a complete joke of a PHD and that they've been wasting the last several years of their life? That's rough. I mean, if it was a PHD in underwater basket weaving at least there could potentially be a point to it.....you could make baskets.
     
  4. CometsWin

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    And BOOM goes the fragility!
     
  5. Rocket River

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    *ahem*

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    In your mind was that an intelligent response?
     
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    Many do not like to be lectured in morality by those who they view as lesser in character. The protesters in Ferguson are a prime example of people whose judgment no one should listen to.
     
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    I read thru it and yeah there were some points, but I guess the main thing that I kept feeling as I was reading it was that Robin DiAngelo generalizes too much here and only seems to talk about race relations as white and black. I mean I get the point she makes about her term of white fragility (not really a fan of that term since it implies that this is only a phenomenon that occurs with white people) because I understand how people can shut down and deflect if you criticize them in a confrontational fashion. It's a common reaction.

    I have experienced a form of that recently when I've had discussions about race with my friends. It didn't come from me shutting down and not listening, but it came from my frustration about their lack of open mindedness about race, ethnicity, racism, stereotypes, and what racism actually is. I get pissed off if someone tells me that everyone is racist and everyone is born racist and that it is impossible to overcome. It's just a closed minded and defeatist opinion for someone to feel that way. I won't rant about it...too much to write about....

    Anyhow, I'd be curious to see what she teaches in her workshops. I get the vibe from some of the stuff on her webpage that she views the world in the same way as my friends.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    Many simply toss the race card because they're incapable of defending their positions. Others toss it to further their pity party, in an effort to get stuff for free.
     
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    ^^^^^
     
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    You are sooo right. White people are so far down the moral food chain now no one should listen to them. at all. about anything. especially race
     
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    In your mind your response was an intelligent response? Incredible.
     
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    Peggy McIntosh? Wellesley College? Feminism?

    I'm out.
     
  15. napalm06

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    Make an extremely broad subjective statement (ie, white people are arrogant when...) and give it a specific name (ie, white fragility) and you have a potent concoction for irrefutability.

    What happens when a Latino person is faced with racist accusations and was not, in fact, being racist? White fragility!
     
  16. Remii

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    Does having a Ph.D in race relations and white racial identity bring better earning potential than being an astronomer... And is either one of those professions really useful.
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Boiled down: it's ok to be racist against wwhites.
     
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    Is this a serious question, or were you being sarcastic?
     
  19. Remii

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    I asked two questions. Which one do you mean...
     
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    A PHD in "race relations and white racial identity" is pretty much the exact reason why a lot of people scoff about liberal arts degrees. It's completely and totally worthless in every way.

    As to astronomy....of course that's really useful.
     

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