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Anyone who wants Morey to get fired is a *insert a more appropriate word*

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by omgTHEpotential, Nov 27, 2015.

  1. omgTHEpotential

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    Seriously, a good GM might be one of the hardest positions to fill around the league. Especially a guy like Morey who knows how to trade/move assets around so that he and the team would come out on top.

    There are only a handful of really competent and good GMs around the league it seems, and Morey is definitely one of those guys.

    This talk of people wanting him to get fired annoys me so much. If Les fires Morey, this franchise will be set back 10 years or more.
     
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    Agreed


    Don't fire the guy, he just needs to acknowledge this process didn't work. There has to be some value in culture ala New York & Minny.
     
  3. bmd

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    Agreed. Morey is great at many aspects of being a GM.

    And he built a good team this year. This isn't on Morey. It's on the players and coaches. Morey can't go out there and play for them.

    He put together a talented roster. It's not his fault the players are all shooting so poorly and not putting in the work on defense.
     
  4. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Not in the fire Morey campaign

    Neither in the Morey one of the best GM's around

    Truth is somewhere in between. he is an above average GM. Problem is not his actual GM stuff even though he has busted with a lot of 1st round picks and continued with McHale long after McFail's expiry date.

    Problem is he is an egotistical guy who believes he has solved basketball. He thinks he can control a team by using analytics and hiring a puppet coach. That and he believes "coaching doesn't matter" is where the problem lies.

    The other problem is trying to instill some Mauryball philosophy and yet having some of the worst brickers around.

    Just hire a real coach and give him control to do the coaching side of things. Stay out of it and work on your 1st round picks instead of drafting busts like Royce WHite, Morris eover Kawhi and latest certified scrub Dekker
     
  5. DraftBoy10

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    And hopefully this will humble him. Hes a smart guy, he'll figure it out.
     
  6. bmd

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    The "coaching doesn't matter" line has been repeated over and over, but you (and others) misunderstood.

    When Morey was saying coaching only accounts in the difference between winning and losing about 1 or 2 games a year, he was talking about in-game coaching decisions.

    He wasn't saying that who the coach is doesn't matter in building a great basketball team. He wasn't saying there wasn't much of a difference between Gregg Popovich and Mike Brown as coaches.

    He was specifically talking about in-game decisions and adjustments coaches make account for a difference of about 1 or 2 games a season.
     
  7. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Which is flat out wrong.

    Switch Kerr with Mike Brown or even Jackson and GS lose much more than the 1 or 2 games from their 67 wins last season

    And when you go to the post season, coaching make even more of a difference. Teams are scouted in depth over a 7 game series and you need to have a coach who can make adjustments on the fly. In the regular season, you don't have the time to scout to such details.
     
  8. Richie_Rich

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    DM the GM can stay...

    ... but Moreyball needs to be shown the door, and a proven NBA head coach needs to take the reins and re-establish a PROVEN system. Let's face it, Moreyball is definitely not what Gene Peterson would call, 'Houston Rockets Basketball'.

    Which brings Rick the Ruler to mind: is he now vindicated for refusing to "increase the variance"?

    Just a thought.
     
  9. joeson332

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    FTW Rockets FTW making sense!!!
     
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    Midrange jumpers are a bad word in Houston basketball, so is dunking.
     
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    I agree with the OP and that's why I fear a loss to the Sixers will potentially be the final straw.
    Morey isn't perfect but he's one of the best GMs in the league and finding even a good GM is really difficult.
     
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    Can we trade a GM for a player? I'd like to trade Morey for Anthony Davis.
     
  13. bmd

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    Luke ****ing Walton is the head coach during games and the team is 16-0.

    Steve Kerr's system and the work they put in during practice and the work they put in watching film and coming up with strategy matters.

    The decisions a coach makes during the game changes the outcome of only a few games a season.
     
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    Morey is excellent at some areas of GMing, and has flaws in other areas. He's done a great job at bringing in good players, you can't blame him for Lawson not fitting in, we all expected he'd make us a legit contender. We couldn't find anyone better than Morey. We still have all our picks, he rebuilt without going into lottery, showed great consistency. If you complain about Morey, you probably never looked closely at other NBA teams. We have one of the best GMs in the business!
     
  15. hakeemthagreat

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    I don't think Morey should be fired but Moreyball should definitely die immediately. I also don't think he can be excluded from all accountability. When things are going great some of you give the man 99% of all the credit for the team's success. When we lose 5 in a row and look lost, its "its not really Morey's fault, he's just the GM" lol. You can't have it both ways
     
  16. bmd

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    Agree. Morey has done a great job building teams.

    Having a team that can truly compete for a title takes a lot of luck as well. You could also have bad luck.

    T-Mac and Yao years were riddled with bad luck. Morey has had some good luck and also some bad luck. But Morey keep going for it and doesn't let the bad luck set him back.

    Many GM's aren't great GM's but simply get lucky. Morey doesn't let luck dictate how good of a GM he is.

    He's a very good GM, and when he gets some lucky breaks like some other GM's, he will have the hardware to back it up.
     
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    It's not Morey's fault the players forgot how to shoot.
     
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    Exactly. When the majority of the league considered us contenders and at the least a top 5 team in the west, then the GM has done his job. It's up to the players to perform.
     
  19. WilliamGCash

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    I don't know. I used to be a huge Morey fan, but I'm starting to turn on him.

    His ideas of moving players around like assets, always going after stars, selecting the best player available... all are clearly void of one thing he is apparently forgetting to measure: chemistry. When the Rockets do not have at all right now.
     
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    Might be our whole administration's fault, however, for failing to hire a coach SPECIFICALLY to teach players shooting. A shooting coach. Like Golden State has, with Sidney Moncrief.
     
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