Kam Martin has since committed to Auburn so looks like we'd be okay on the 25 scholarship front if we hit on both Hudson and Cobb (which Cobb is looking all but gone). As far as the 85 roster limit, I think there could be some summer II graduates and maybe some cuts to get under it.
The total amount of scholarships with committed players included is 86 which is 1 over the limit. That includes Southall and Folwer who are both trying to work out academic issues. It would work out better for Texas if Folwer waits to enroll until August instead of the 2nd summer session which begins next month. Hudson might be aware that he would have to wait until August to report as well which could have spiked his interest in OU unless Southall doesn't enroll until August either. For some reason, people seem to think that Southall is in a better position than Fowler however I don't know why. It would not be the end of the world if we did not get Hudson. The current OL class is actually pretty deep: 4 Star Jean Delancey, 4 Star Denzel Okafor, 4 star Urquidez, 3 Star Tope Imade, 3 Star Zach Shackelford who came from Gilbert. You are looking at 1-2 red shirts there. It would still be an awesome pickup. TLDR: Current Scholarship Commitments: 86 Current Scholarship Players Enrolled: 81 February NSD Commitments Not Enrolled: 2 (Southall, Folwer) Baylor Commitments Not Enrolled: 3 (Duvernay, Duvernay, Urquidez) Possible additional Baylor Commitment: 1 (Hudson) UT is currently 1 scholarship short of being able to enroll all current commitments in Summer II session next month and that number grows to 2 if Hudson commits. Most ideal solution is if Southall and/or Folwer's academic hurdles prevent them from enrolling until Fall which will give UT a couple months to cut a player or two.
Scout reported last night that Southall has been cleared for summer II. But no way they'd make any of those guys wait to enroll if they wanted to. There are probably half a dozen guys on the team they would cut tomorrow if it meant getting Hudson on campus. Sucks for them but name of the game.
They won't have to "cut" anyone. Kids transfer every year when they see how far down the depth chart they are. It's their prerogative, and it almost always opens up a few roster spots.
This is true too. Timing would possibly be the issue in this case though. But point being that don't think numbers will be a problem if we wanted to add more to this class. Could all be a moot point because rumor is that Hudson is leaning another direction.
Yes, a few often do it this late. Look out for it in the coming months. Most writers at places like 247 will call it "attrition." From The Football Braniacs UT Edition: UPDATE (11:01 pm): I have been told that Texas no longer has a spot for Parrish Cobb. I would surmise this means Texas feel good about landing a commitment/signature from Patrick Hudson. – (Super K)
Ya guys like Saban and Urban were notorious with how they handled "attrition" in instances like this but don't think their fans would complain. Predictions on Hudson have been all over the place but apparently he's announcing on Thursday so we'll know one way or the other. I think Cobb made his own bed with how he handled things over the weekend though.
Thank you but I know what attrition is and I'll say it again that it is extremely unlikely to see a guy transfer or drop out between Summer 2 and August unless you are talking about a career ending injury which is possible but not likely. The only reason I could see is if not enrolling in the fall would save you a year of eligibility however I don't know if that would be the case if they already participated in Summer II. Meaning would they be able to play in the 2018 season if they didn't enroll in August 2017 even though they did enroll in 2017 Summer. Yea but it got a lot of negative press across football. I think their deal was that they said it was for medical reasons even though it was obviously cutting guys to make room for more recruits. Hudson would put us at 87 but neither Southall or Fowler is officially set to enroll in Summer 2 which give way for all of the baylor recruits. I heard someone say that the 85 limit does not apply until the fall semester starts which would make things easier if Southall or Fowler are ready to go. It at least gives you a month to work something out. Maybe talk to the seniors that have never played a down. The only thing that concerns me about Hudson is the huge difference in OL recruiting classes between OU and UT. Texas has the better ranked athletes so that could mean it would be more difficult to make it as a starter but then again you never know with * rankings. Texas currently has 18 offensive lineman and 5 of them are 2016 recruits. Anyone want to talk about our terrifying kicker situation? Neither of the two on the roster have ever played a game. I'm not even sure if either of them are on scholarship. http://www.texassports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6520&path=football http://www.texassports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=6563&path=football
New post by 247 that basically says "who knows" about Hudson and that UT will be ok one way or another on scholarship counts. Take it for what it's worth. Hudson -The Sooners had not been previously in the mix for Hudson, but we believe there’s someone close to Hudson who is trying get him to explore as many options as possible. -We’ve heard from various sources over the last couple of weeks that the Under Armour All-America lineman prefers to go to Texas and his mother appeared to be content with the Forty Acres being his destination. -A source with direct knowledge of the situation told Horns247 that the talk of a Saturday morning Texas visit happened because someone close to Hudson wanted to make the media and general public think he was in Austin. In reality, the hope was Hudson could officially visit Oklahoma with nobody finding out. (seems silly) -we heard from a source on the Texas side of things this weekend that they felt Hudson was leaning toward Oklahoma. We also heard from a source with ties to another Big 12 that their coaching staff believes Hudson will wind up at Oklahoma. But according to another source, while he enjoyed his time at Oklahoma, Hudson did have the best off campus experience and is ‘lost’ and has ‘no idea’ where he is going at the moment. The source added that Hudson believes Oklahoma and Texas offer the same thing. -According to another source, Hudson’s only concern with Texas is the depth at offensive guard -That situation probably got cleared up when Hudson spoke with Texas head coach Charlie Strong after his Oklahoma visit. We don’t know the exact details of the conversation, but Strong did have an opportunity to make his pitch shortly after Hudson left Norman. -One source with direct knowledge of the situation told us this weekend that Hudson could get to the end of the decision-making process and decide that the being at Baylor is a compromise. Scholarship Numbers -As of right now Texas, is set to have all 85 scholarships occupied when Devin Duvernay, Donovan Duvernay, Marcel Southall and JP Urquidez step on campus for the start second summer school session on July 11. Hudson committing to Texas means the Longhorns will have to have one scholarship open up, while Fowler qualifying on top of that means two will have to come available. -Regarding the 25 initial counters, the four recruits set to enroll would put Texas at 22 initial counters (the four January enrollees were able to be rolled back to last year’s count). That means Texas could add one more new scholarship on top of Hudson and Fowler and still be fine. -In terms the 85 limit, Horns247 has been told that at least three and as many as six scholarships could come open when the time comes to make room for the new bodies on campus. As is always the case with attrition we’re not going to release the names of the players rumored to be coming off of 85-man count, but there’s no worry on the Texas side of things when it comes to scholarship numbers. -LSU kicker Colby Delahoussaye could be an option for Texas as a graduate transfer if he decides to leave. It would require the Longhorns having three scholarships open up to add three new members of the team but, again, that shouldn’t be a problem. (Howe/Staff) http://247sports.com/Player/Colby-Delahoussaye-34975 http://texas.247sports.com/Article/...-recruiting-VIP-notes-on-Patrick-Hud-46012870
There was also a rumor of OU possibly offering his sister a track scholarship as well. Obviously that would be a huge enticement, although a violation, but not sure if true. As far as the depth chart, don't see what has changed since signing day to scare him off but if anything, Strong has shown he'll play whoever performs so maybe that convo helped calm things down. Ya Higdon from Scout was pretty adamant about numbers being a non-issue. Also reporting that the kicker probably can't get into graduate program. And no I don't want to talk about the kicker situation in hopes that it just goes away.
right but he didn't sigh with us on sighing day... Also, they added an additional lineman Urquidez since signing day. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lyZSoy2vOW4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Well Strong has his players now. This is such an important year for that team. If they do well enough UT will start holding the attention over A&M and Baylor again.
http://www.burntorangenation.com/re...son-signs-texas-longhorns-baylor-recruit-star We got ERRBODY, and by ERRBODY, I mean 4 of the 6 former Baylor commits.
Except that most players are true sophomores or true freshmen. Next year is a tough schedule, but I think as long as charlie shows improvement and no bad losses, you keep him. Baylor has sealed their own fate. Oh, they can win some games next year but it's after that where the scandal will truly leave it's mark. No depth. ATM is the absolute definition of mediocrity. They had the manziel flash in the pan, but they are the same middle of the pack team in the SEC that was a middle of a pack team in the B12. In all honesty though, Texas will have options if charlie isn't the guy. Herman has another good year at UH, then the Texas job would be his. We wouldn't miss a beat in recruiting. It's been a long 6 years from Mack and his lazy assistants to this point where we fu ally have some talent. Just hope it comes to fruition this year.
Just like the WRTS crap, you guys are going to be trolled hard with this errbody stuff. A&M had top 5 classes and hasn't won. Big 12 is easier so I can't see only 5-7 wins after next season. This season isn't going to be much different for Baylor. As the above poster said, after 2016 is where we'll start hurting but I'm not going to freak out because of Stidham, Johnny Jefferson, T Will and the other weapons that will emerge. We still have 4 star recruits that haven't hit the field in Hasty and Blake Lynch as examples. Zamora out of Elsik has a very high ceiling.
Funny that star rankings and top recruiting classes don't help Texas and A&M at all but will keep you guys afloat at the very same time.
The system will help us stay afloat. I can't see us going away from what we do after 2016. I'm hoping KB is named the HC in December. 3 star players will produce because of the system and bc of our coaches. Baylor develops their guys.. Coach Kaz deserves a raise. That's a good man. Will we be contenders year in and year out like we were positioned to be? No, that will take time to get back to. Errbody = WRTS. It literally means the same thing until Texas starts winning. 9-4 this season is a step up. Big 12 contender in 2017 for Texas but OU, TCU will be in the mix. Baylor maybe too solely bc of guys like Stidham (game-changer). Edit: KB and Lebby have both sold their houses (part of CAB's settlement?) so it's more wishful thinking than not that they're all but goners after the season. Obviously, everything depends on the next hire.
