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Debunking the Myth (Aldridge dropped 40 on Jones!)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by vator, Feb 28, 2015.

  1. vator

    vator Contributing Member

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    I know some may not feel this is thread worthy since it is partially pertaining to something that happened last season, but I'm tired of seeing the same incorrect information posted over and over and over so I'm willing to take the fiery arrows from the Jones hater faction. I didn't want this to be buried in the thread I was going to post it in and thus overlooked. The misinformation continues to pollute current posts and possibly opinion. Much like many national talking heads and fans continue to talk about how bad Harden's defense is because of the viral video from last year. It is impossible for players to work on weaknesses in their games and get better right? Trade Harden...trade Jones...trade DMo, etc.

    The following is not meant to claim that Terrence Jones played solid defense against LaMarcus Aldridge in last year's playoffs because he certainly did NOT. It is meant to provide information to those who may need it. You had two big men who were considered tops in the game at defense in Dwight Howard and Omer Asik that were powerless to stop Aldridge as well, yet all of the venom falls on a 22 year old second year guy for some reason.

    Public Service Announcement...

    LMA didn't score 40 points on Terrence Jones in Game 1 nor did he in Game 2. He certainly made Jones his b**** when they matched up...that is beyond debatable and I was just as disgusted as anybody else, but despite popular belief, he didn't even score half of his points in Game 1 on him. Jones was not even his assignment for Game 2, which meant that they barely matched up and that was by design obviously because he was overmatched. Little talked about fact is that LMA actually scored more points on Asik in Game 2 than he did on Jones in Game 1!!! Glossed over. Asik was supposed to be the Aldridge stopper. LMA was in video game mode with all the sliders turned up. Some people around here don't care about the facts though. Instead, they parrot what others tell them or post to further their agenda. Next time you see a person talk about Aldridge dropping 40 on Jones, save your energy and be so kind as to refer them to this thread.

    I now return you back to your regularly scheduled programming in the year 2015. :grin: Go Rockets.

    Aldridge's scoring can roughly be broken down as follows...

    Game 1

    Jones = 18
    Howard = 16
    Asik = 6
    Other = 6

    Total = 46

    Game 2

    Jones = 6
    Howard =14
    Asik =21
    Other =2

    Total = 43

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  2. YallMean

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    LA is tough to be guarded one on one. He is an allstar. TJones is a bit undersized tough, so you put him on LA, that's also not fair to him. But on the other hand, he was the starting 4. Now, we have Smith, who I think can guard LA a little better. Putting Asik or DH on LA was reactive adjustments.
     
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  3. Himdemm

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    Real fans know this. No need to feed into herrara's trolling.
     
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    Definitely worthy of a thread. Clutchfans always needs someone to hate. Based on comments around here, you would never think that Jones was a 23 year-old player with high upside.
     
  5. ZNB

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    That is literally all he does now. He must have REALLY loved PP from the bottom of his heart.
     
  6. heads.up

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    The other thing people aren't bringing up is that Jones was outmatched physically by Aldridge as as Lopez in this series. He was not able to secure rebounds after misses, so if Dwight or Asik took on one of the other post players and they missed a shot, the other frontcourt player easily got the offensive rebound over Jones.

    As well as being taken to the shed by Aldridge every time, this just makes people skeptical of Jones against large front courts. Not to mention he was not able to punish either player on offense, and often got his stuff blocked against the Lopez-Aldrige front court.
     
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    In last year's playoff series against Portland, when Terrence wasn't getting ate up by LaMarcus....he was getting ate up by Robin Lopez. He couldn't keep Lopez off the glass to save his life. That's why he was benched after 2 games when he had been kept in as the starter the entire season. Even McHale realized he couldn't match up against Portland's bigs and changed the starting lineup in the playoffs. Imagine that. Going away from what supposedly worked all season and going with Dwight/Asik as the starters IN THE PLAYOFFS! That is how badly Portland's bigs dominated Terrence.

    Debunk that.
     
  8. ZNB

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    BBhollic talking **** about TJ? What a shocker.
     
  9. ZNB

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    Like being out played at the age of 22 by one of the best 4s in the game is some thing that proves he is a scrub that can never get better.
     
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    Bbaallholic talking the truth about what happened to Terrrence in the Portland series.

    You can't handle the truth.
     
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  11. sealclubber1016

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    Aldridge simply had a white hot shooting night in game 2. McHale should have gotten the ball out of his hands.

    Just because he had one good game on Asik, it doesn't change the fact that Jones got decimated every time he was on Aldridge. And it forced us to defend him with a center. Jones has been great on both ends so far this season, just be happy about that, because it isn't revisionist history to say he was abysmal last year on D.
     
  12. ZNB

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    Ok, a 22 year old got outplayed by a veteran 4 who is one of the best in the game. What does that mean to you? That he is trash and can never get better? Because you come across like he can never get better and shouldn't even be in the league.
     
  13. jimmyv281

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    I have been advocating Terrance Jones since Day One.....great Freaking Thread.... let Josh Smith Walk and keep Jones lock his butt up with a multi year contract.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    Fixed
     
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    LMA had an unreal playoff series against last year. While I appreciate you taking the time to go through this, I thought it was common knowledge.

    When LMA was being guarded by Jones, he could easily back him down, post him up and shoot over the top of him. LMA didn't score all of his points against Jones because we weren't able to keep Jones on him. It was just way, way too easy for LMA to score on him.

    This forced us to play Asik and Howard minutes together, which caused us to adapt to them. We tried that lineup at the beginning of the season last year and it failed horribly. But out of necessity we had to go back to it. Howard and Asik didn't have that much more success than Jones did as LMA was just simply playing out of his mind, but when we had Howard or Asik on him, he was being forced to shoot long two's over them instead of muscling his way into a layup against Jones. Unfortunately for us, he was shooting his long two's almost just as well as most people shoot layups.


    I'm happy for the way Jones has been playing this season. He started out the season on a hot streak, was injured for a long time, but has come back and played at the same high level as he started at. He has looked better on both offense and defense than he did last year and has impacted the game in multiple ways. But there is no denying it, he played bad defense against LMA (one of the best PF's in the game) last year during the playoffs and is probably just too undersized to be matched up against him.
     
  16. ZNB

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    LMA was hitting EVERYTHING over EVERYONE but naturally, since BBhollic has hated TJ from day one, he blames all of it on TJ. Talk about bias.
     
  17. sealclubber1016

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    Are you talking about D-Mo, because he didn't get off the bench in that series. If we play Portland this year, D-Mo will be on Aldridge and I guarantee nothing resembling what happened to Jones will happen to D-Mo.

    Jone has been great this year, you guys just need to be happy about that. It's like trying to defend Hardens defense last season.
     
  18. joeson332

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    Morey better not let Jones walk, tired of letting dudes with high upside walk
    (Lowry, Lee, P Patt, Landry, Parsons *hehe* )
     
  19. ZNB

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    High upside? According to bbhollic and CH he is trash. :rolleyes:
     
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    Nope. I have never said Terrence was trash. What I said is Terrence is a trash man. He cleans up messes at the rim. He's a very, very good finisher.

    But....the longer he goes in his career without substantial improvement in his shooting the more likely it is that he is what he is right now. Just a finisher/garbage man that is still going to have to get stronger and better on the glass and defensively to carve out a decent middle-of-the-road career in the NBA. But a difference maker...he is not. His contributions can easily be replaced ..... and maybe even more efficiently with guys that are better defenders/rebounders who can finish just as well as Terrence can.
     

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