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Is the loss of Sampson going to cost the Rockets in the Play offs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by torocan, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. Bezzle

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    Tonight (so far) plus last night's effort will sum up to a quick playoff exit if this doesn't change.
     
  2. RoxBeliever

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    I don't know why coaches have not added new wrinkles to the offense or defense. We have to get to another level at this point in the season. even without Bev and Dwight, we should be able to play better vs these teams.

    I can see us falling way down to the 6th seed if we keep losing.

    I hope that gets us a coaching change though; that would be the silver lining to this late-season collapse.

    It's not just the losses; it's the way we have been playing that's really worrying.
     
  3. Codman

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kevin McHale has had a late-season collapse every season since he's been the Rockets' "coach".
     
  4. torocan

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    +-5 is only over the LONG run, and that's only because you have multiple man coaching teams. IE, it's hard to assemble a coaching team that is That much stronger than another coaching team when you're looking at multiple specialists on every team.

    As for the impact of losing an assistant coach, it's not the same as replacing an assistant coach.

    Think of it like Formula 1 racing. If you put together a complete pit crew, each person isn't going to be THAT much better than their counterpart on another pit crew. Sure, the guy in the other pit might be fractionally faster in fueling the vehicle, but your guy might be fractionally faster in removing the tires.

    The problem here is that you need ALL your crew to make the pit stop work. If you take out your Fuel guy entirely and ask someone who isn't an expert at it to do the job, you lose a TON more time than if you had time to properly replace them with another Fueling specialist.

    The problem with the Rockets is the coaching staff isn't built for redundancy. No NBA team is really built for redundancy. You have the offensive guy, the defensive guy, the drills/practice guy, and the motivation guy. And we just lost the Defensive guy with nobody to take over his role.

    We have a complex coaching machine, and we just lost a vital cog. That's why we're going to see disproportionate impact until we get a decent replacement, and unfortunately I don't see that happening this season.
     
  5. TheFreak

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    In racing, the crew is more important than the racer. In pro basketball, the players are way more important than the coaches. So that analogy doesn't work at all. There is nothing complex about NBA coaching. All coaches are saying similar things, and the difference lies only in what players they have at their disposal compared to the other coaches and whether or not those players are actually listening to what they have to say. The players aren't going to forget how to play with one ASSISTANT coach being gone. Ridiculous. Do you really think the remaining coaches are just going to be taking a nap now while the Rockets are on defense and the players are going to be completely clueless on that end since Sampson is gone?
     
  6. LosPollosHermanos

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    Are you guys watching the game? Harden is the one that refuses to switch and plays mattador defense. The demeanor starts with him. The guy isn't even contesting Austin Rivers. There has to be a point where your pride steps in.
     
  7. joesr

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    This big time. We dont play defense as it is now you wanna say because he left we arent?
     
  8. torocan

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    Given the strategic choices in defending LMA, I'm thinking this may be a relevant question again...

    Half the battle in designing team defense is making the right choices of HOW to cover the opponent's main threats. And starting TJones on LMA and then not double teaming him or playing ball denial when TJones has struggled ALL season to cover LMA makes me wonder what McHale and Co were thinking.
     
  9. smoothie

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    that's 1 issue.

    i'm more concerned about harden's history of poor playoff performances. he's always a poor defensive player but his brilliance on offense makes up for the points allowed on defense. that's not the case in his playoff history where he's been a poor offensive player as well.

    if we had the regular season james harden in the playoffs, we wouldn't be worried about missing sampson.
     
  10. strifed169

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    What?

    Rockets defense has always been **** even when Sampson was around
     
  11. torocan

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    Technically the Rockets were a top 10 defense until Sampson left. They then fell to #12 in defensive efficiency. The Rockets defense wasn't exactly Elite, but it was far from a mess. At least you saw a plan.

    Last night, there wasn't a good defensive plan.
     
  12. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Big issue is we are collapsing on penetration and leaving it easy for Lillard to get an assist for a Jam. Overhelping on penetration.
     
  13. Progs

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    Missing U: Kelvin Sampson

    Convinced that he was the reason we had a passable defense at time throughout the season. Could have really used him tonight.
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  14. Old Man Rock

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    Absolutely. He had McHale's ear. And could convince him to stop the insanity and do something sensible. No one else has that respect. Plus the players respected him. And he appreciated DMo's effort. Sampson gone, defense gone.
     
  15. Progs

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    Ths. Dmo needs to see some playing time in game 3.
     
  16. yunac010

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    I take back every bad thing I said about Sampson. Apparently he was important to our defense after all.
     
  17. DreamShook

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    who the **** leaves a team in the middle of the season?
     
  18. Tfor3

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    Sampson quit on the rockets.

    we gon get swept.

    the end.
     
  19. tehG l i d e

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    money talks. he jumped from a sinking ship.
     
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    I'd like to emphasize this question too.

    There was seriously nothing in his contract that disallowed him to leave the team? College basketball isn't even being played right now - you'd think there'd be some sort of agreement between the Rockets and UH...
     

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