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Western Conf. Exec: Most NBA players are good guys because inner-city players are fading away

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 19, 2014.

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  1. Jet036

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    Why is that?
     
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    say that to my face and I'll wreck you
     
    #22 Jet036, Sep 21, 2014
  3. CaptainRox

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    Yeah, all these players go to privileged schools. Better education and resources. And I'm not talking about college. Look at all the players lebron and up who went to various catholic prep schools.
     
    #23 CaptainRox, Sep 21, 2014
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    It's all about priorities... Typically, to be truly successful at anything u have to be devoted to your craft and not worried about nonsense....
     
    #24 kjayp, Sep 21, 2014
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    Unnecessary generalization statement. I'd rather see data, a study, something that matters... and either way - I don't care. Iverson or Urkel, I don't care what the players do off the court. It's not like there was ever a major epidemic of NBA players brewing up meth or something.
     
    #25 Ziggy, Sep 21, 2014
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    These racist azz comments are gettin very common
     
    #26 GoRox2013, Sep 21, 2014
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    Why would someone question the looks of another family?
     
    #27 Roc Paint, Sep 21, 2014
  8. Carl Herrera

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    They have always been very common.

    Player evaluation is such an important and uncertain business that NBA teams are eager for draw conclusions based on any kind of information, which may or may not be relevant-- Vertical leap, advanced stats, personal background (race and otherwise). When in doubt, a scout or front office guy will tend to throw a bunch of random tidbits into a report rather than admit that he or she doesn't know much important stuff about the player. Random stuff based on race is just another part of the NBA's "profiling" business.

    This stuff didn't recently begin. The whole high IQ but soft Euro thing has been around forever, for example.

    Also, a decade ago, a European big man prospect was described as being unusually tough for an European because he came from a pretty messed up "inner city" family in a war-torn country and was willing to bang. One "insider" told ESPN that, because of this, "the brothers will respect him." A pretty racial comment, no?

    (Guess who the prospect in question is?)
     
    #28 Carl Herrera, Sep 21, 2014
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    Are you Mike Bibby?
     
    #29 Haymitch, Sep 21, 2014
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    and skateboard apparently
     
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    We'll in Argentina Tevez is a god for being very hood (Arg version) while Messi is commonly refereed to as "The Spaniard" and accused of being born with a silver spoon. Even though he wasn't. Seriously, they don't really like Messi down there.
     
    #31 percicles, Sep 21, 2014
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    I recall Chad Ford describing Darko Milicic as a tough, inner city kid.
     
    #32 heypartner, Sep 21, 2014
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    He talks like one.

    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/woWqSmichOo" allowfullscreen="" height="315" width="420" frameborder="0"></iframe>

    :grin:
     
    #33 Easy, Sep 22, 2014
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    Meth is doing to poor white rural America 10x the height of the epidemic of crack cocaine in the inner city black America. That's something that nobody talks about or notices. No matter who is suffering, you better believe meth is a plague that could shut down America and other leading nations of the world. It's just a horrid epidemic with very little to no media coverage of the consequences since it does effect mostly poor white rural America.
     
    #34 Liberon, Sep 22, 2014
  15. Carl Herrera

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    We do have Breaking Bad, though.
     
    #35 Carl Herrera, Sep 22, 2014
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    I don't know about the "good guy" thing. That seems pretty ridiculous to me.

    I will say that the amount of coaching and development that youth players receive is off the charts today. And it is much more likely that you have access to that coaching and skill development if you have more resources.

    My son just turned 11 and he worked out intensely about 4 hours a day during the past summer. Now that school is back in session, he has four basketball training sessions and an athletic training session each week and plays 2-3 games on the weekend.

    His team program costs between $2,100 and $2,800 a year. That doesn't include his athletic training ($30 each week), extra individual skill development sessions at $60 per training, camps, extra teams that he joins, etc. Anyhow, you get the idea. At 11, his training easily costs around $4,000 a year. Now, imagine that you have more than one kid...

    If you can afford the training, you have an advantage. That part rings true. You still have to do something with the training of course, but it certainly gives you an advantage if you are willing to put in the work.

    Youth basketball training is becoming a big business, and I expect the trend will continue. That means even more kids with middle-income and affluent backgrounds will be playing college ball and in the NBA.
     
    #36 Rocket Addict, Sep 22, 2014
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    Nich Van Exel's son killed a dude, and River Oaks is inner city. Get over yourself.
     
    #38 Cohete Rojo, Sep 23, 2014
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    "Inner city" is a gentrified place now. A lot of places that were hood are not so much anymore.
     
    #39 OremLK, Sep 23, 2014
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    People with millions can look like trolls and it won't matter. They will look good to someone.
     
    #40 onreego, Sep 23, 2014
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